Seeing the forrest and the trees, "The Big Picture Stack"

[Hoomgar]

Upped my water today, It helped alot. Im still using the Animal Pump minus the red pill, which my GF loves, and its treatn me awesome.

Im updating this log late, but I had an early workout this morning. This combo of supps gave me energy for the rest of the day. Normally I'm so tired after my workouts I like to go home and sleep, but today I was alert and attentive for all my classes, I had 2 midterms and I dont think I could have been more awake for them.

Overall I'm liking these supps, Im still wary about the protein content of Torrent, since it makes me take in an extra meal. But the Pump and Intra-Aid are freakn awesome

If you are liking the energy without using the red stim pill that is awesome. Try it sometime with a morning workout

As for the protein and the extra meal, that is the point bro. Torrent works well for a maintenance diet but is really best used during a bulk. During a bulk you WANT that extra meal.

Plus did you read that thread I gave you? That 20 grams is not insufficiant for your needs post workout. There is science to it. U-rep spells it out pretty nice in that thread. If you find that you need more than what it is giving you then you are saying you need more than the likes of Evan Centopani http://www.davepalumbo.com/2007%20Ph...ages/evan6.jpg or any of the other large freaks who swear by the product as being just right.

Not at all being a smart butt here my man. Just pointing out these things to sort of assure you that you're getting "what you need" in your Post-wo shake with the amount of Protein in the Torrent my friend. This topic has come up before for the very same reasons. It shows you put some good thought into your workout nutrition.

Give it a good shake here and see how you do on it. I think your going to be happy with the results. If you really do still feel you need more then there is no harm in having another protein shake about 20 minutes later or so if you really don't want to throw down that next meal just yet.

Hg

[futurepilot]

There gonna be any before and after pics at the end of this log? With all these great supps there should be a noticable body compisition change.

I just might put some up, I'm still like 15% BF right now so it wont be pretty, but lemme see what I can rassle up. I might just just take some now, save them till then end, then post some final pics at the same time.

If you are liking the energy without using the red stim pill that is awesome. Try it sometime with a morning workout

Plus did you read that thread I gave you?

I'll try the red before some cardio today, seems like it will be good stuff

I read the Torrent articles, im just giving my opinion. This log is about honest feedback, not pandering too a certain audience. Those guys are paid to say they like the product, I'm not.

[Hoomgar]

I read the Torrent articles, im just giving my opinion. This log is about honest feedback, not pandering too a certain audience. Those guys are paid to say they like the product, I'm not.

Touche' like I said man, I wan't being a butt at all, I was concerned it would read that way but I am only pointing out that the company has done their homework on this. Your opinion is wanted! Always. That's how we want it bro.

[futurepilot]

No harm, no foul.

[futurepilot]

Alright, I took a picture a little bit ago so we'll have a good before/after when this is all over with.....but you'll have to wait untill then too see it.

[King Con]

Alright, I took a picture a little bit ago so we'll have a good before/after when this is all over with.....but you'll have to wait untill then too see it.

I have found pictures to be some of the best ways to gauge my progress.

[Universal Rep]

Upped my water today, It helped alot. Im still using the Animal Pump minus the red pill, which my GF loves, and its treatn me awesome.

Im updating this log late, but I had an early workout this morning. This combo of supps gave me energy for the rest of the day. Normally I'm so tired after my workouts I like to go home and sleep, but today I was alert and attentive for all my classes, I had 2 midterms and I dont think I could have been more awake for them.

Overall I'm liking these supps, Im still wary about the protein content of Torrent, since it makes me take in an extra meal. But the Pump and Intra-Aid are freakn awesome

Torrent was not meant to be the be-all-end-all nutrition post-workout. Most of the fellas I know (including me) take Torrent, and after that, a whole food meal within an hour or two. Intra-Aid and Pump are addicting, but for diff reasons I think... Intra-Aid, def for the taste...

[JOHNJESSICA20]

[QUOTE=futurepilot;1598136]I just might put some up, I'm still like 15% BF right now so it wont be pretty, but lemme see what I can rassle up. I might just just take some now, save them till then end, then post some final pics at the same time.



Sounds awesome dude,can't wait. I'm really considering adding this to my massive 3month bulk log.

Oh yeah wheres my green...lol

[futurepilot]

I've been sick the past few days; I'm feeling better, so I should be back in to the gym tomorrow. I'll update as soon as I get done with my next workout :dl:

[futurepilot]

It's a great day today so I decided to do my workout outside. Me and the gf went to my schools soccer field and did some lunges. Now if your thinking; Lunges? Bodyweight only? That pussy must be crazy! why doesn't he do some squats? Try them and get back to me.

We lunged the long side of the field then jogged the goal side, so on and so forth, for about an hour. Then we did some side too sides along the mid field line, and finished it off by walking backwards a few laps to help stretch the hips.

My legs are just jello right now. I tried taking the red pill today before my workout and its great for cardio, still a little too much stims for me to use during anaerobic exercises like lifting weights. Intra-aid makes such a difference in stamina its unbelievable, its like night and day versus my old workouts. Torrent tastes soooo good, It's a great treat after a hard workout to have something that you actually want to drink.

[Hoomgar]

Good stuff fp. Glad to hear you shook that bug of and are back at it. No worries on the BW lunges either, I know EXACTLY what your saying. When you do them for a long distance and a long time both together in the same workout you don't want any extra weight. Most people can't even get back up after a few sets of BW only anyway so where is the need for additional weight? I add weight when I'm in the gym and am going to be doing substantially less reps and sets of them because I'm doing other exercises too.

The Pump is DEF~! da bomb for any workout and really does do wonder for cardio too. Same is true for the IA.

Hg

[King Con]

It's a great day today so I decided to do my workout outside. Me and the gf went to my schools soccer field and did some lunges. Now if your thinking; Lunges? Bodyweight only? That pussy must be crazy! why doesn't he do some squats? Try them and get back to me.

We lunged the long side of the field then jogged the goal side, so on and so forth, for about an hour. Then we did some side too sides along the mid field line, and finished it off by walking backwards a few laps to help stretch the hips.

My legs are just jello right now. I tried taking the red pill today before my workout and its great for cardio, still a little too much stims for me to use during anaerobic exercises like lifting weights. Intra-aid makes such a difference in stamina its unbelievable, its like night and day versus my old workouts. Torrent tastes soooo good, It's a great treat after a hard workout to have something that you actually want to drink.

You are a brave brave man doing lunges. I can't stand the lunges...they just destroy me haha. Power to you for doing that and working out with your girl. The red pill can be a little too much, its great being able to take it out if needed. I have heard of others saving up the red pills and using it as a stim much the way you did with cardio. Innovative.

IA and Torrent are both delicious and glad to hear about the stamina help. I am always craving Torrent at the end of my workouts and it is definitely just as you described it, a treat.

[futurepilot]

You are a brave brave man doing lunges. I can't stand the lunges...they just destroy me haha. Power to you for doing that and working out with your girl. The red pill can be a little too much, its great being able to take it out if needed. I have heard of others saving up the red pills and using it as a stim much the way you did with cardio. Innovative.

IA and Torrent are both delicious and glad to hear about the stamina help. I am always craving Torrent at the end of my workouts and it is definitely just as you described it, a treat.

Thanks man, i do my best. they hurt like hell if you do em right. I love being able to choose which workouts i take the stims with, thats waht made me want to try a full run of Pump instead of shock therapy.

Oh my god is it a treat, Im kind of cutting right now, just mostly staying away from sweets/candy etc so Torrent is like my cheat meal

[futurepilot]

I had a great time in the gym today. I was feeling a little overwhelmed by school so i just took it out on the weights. I took my Pump about 45 minutes beforehand, I think this is my sweet spot for timing, i could feel in kicking in as i walked over to do my first set. I just murdered some DB bench, DB incline, Pec Deck machine, cable cross overs, one arm tricep puch downs, V bar tricep puch downs, DB over head triceps, Laterals superset with upright rows for shoulder. I was knocked out by the end. Intra-Aid was the only thing that even let me do my shoulder workout.

I was sipping my bottle as normal, switched over to just water so I could save some intra for the end, chugged the rest of the Intra, kicked up the Iron Maiden, and hit those shoulder exercises. Its amazing how you can actually feel a difference in sets. It may be just placebo, but i doubt it.

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[Hoomgar]

Nice work on the chest fp.

[futurepilot]

Thanks man.:good:

[King Con]

Thanks man, i do my best. they hurt like hell if you do em right. I love being able to choose which workouts i take the stims with, thats waht made me want to try a full run of Pump instead of shock therapy.

Oh my god is it a treat, Im kind of cutting right now, just mostly staying away from sweets/candy etc so Torrent is like my cheat meal

Agreed. Lunges are brutal and Torrent is just like a cheat meal. It's that good. Yeah being able to take out the stims of Pump is definitely a plus. Glad you're enjoying it. Hows the semi cutting thus far?

[futurepilot]

It's goin good actually, I think everyone will be surprised at the before and after pics if I keep progressing at this rate. :bb:

[King Con]

It's goin good actually, I think everyone will be surprised at the before and after pics if I keep progressing at this rate. :bb:

That's great news. Keep with it FP! Looking forward to the pics!

[Iron Lungz]

Log is looking good.
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