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  1.  09-12-2007  07:24 AM
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    I would bet that report it wrong.


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    whats the spread

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    It doesn't reduce my urge to buy supplements.

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    *chuckle* @ you guys

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    Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    It doesn't reduce my urge to buy supplements.
    That's a good idea for a supplement.


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    Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    That's a good idea for a supplement.


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    I'd buy it.

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    Here's the Mechanics - NAC stimulates Glutamate, which stimulates Dopamine, the reward chemical, both directly and by reducing GABA.

    By itself, NAC won't cure addictions (Gambling/Nicotine/Stims/Sex, etc.) but it's a good addition to further the effects of a Dopamine/NE Treatment Protocol.

    NAC has a half life of 6.25 hours, dose at 0.6 gms or more, 3 -4X Daily.

    This is a part, a small part, of how I got my brother in law off Meth, successfully, so far, after 3 months back in the Temptation World - Wellbutrin and Deprenyl and Modafinil and NAC and L-Phenyl 10 days beforehand for a baseline buildup, then he and I in a cabin in Montana,(Northern Garfield County) toughing it out with day hikes for 16 days on Coffee and Syntrax Nectar and Maltodextrin, and putting his manic ass to sleep with a half speed palm heel strike/push, Xanax and double shots of Jim Beam.

    Tough Love, the Chemical Adapt and Nature Way.

    I could have sliced him,tempted I was at times, left him to odor for Griz to chow on - Call me Humane, he never was aware that I was ranging back on one that was sloppy trailing our six on most days out and looking for a lazy meal.

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    I have a brother-in-law(twice rehabbed tweaker) who'd make a good meal for your griz friend.

    But I'll try the NAC first.

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    Slightly different version of the article:

    September 17, 2007

    Don't gamble with NAC

    The September 15, 2007 issue of the journal Biological Psychiatry published the results of a pilot study conducted by Jon E. Grant, MD and colleagues at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis that consuming the amino acid N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) reduces the urge to gamble in individuals with gambling addictions, and may help reduce other addictions.

    Fifteen men and twelve women treated for pathological gambling as determined by the Yale Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale Modified for Pathological Gambling (PG-YBOCS) were given increasing doses of N-acetyl cysteine for eight weeks. At the end of the treatment period, average test scores had improved, with 16 of the participants classified as responders to the therapy. While three of the responders did not wish to risk discontinuing NAC, 13 entered a double-blind phase of the research, in which one group of subjects received N-acetyl-cysteine and the remainder received a placebo for six weeks. Eighty-three percent of those who received NAC responded favorably, compared with only 28.6 of those assigned to the placebo.

    N-acetyl cysteine's effect on glutamate, which is frequently associated in the brain with reward, is likely to be the amino acid's mechanism of action in helping to control addiction. Similar studies with NAC have found positive effects against drug addictions in animals.

    “It looks very promising,” stated Dr Grant, who is an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Minnesota School of Medicine. “We were able to reduce people’s urges to gamble.”

    Dr Grant is currently investigating NAC in methamphetamine users. “This research could be encouraging for a lot of addictions,” he said.

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    Something to think about before buying NAC:

    http://foodconsumer.org/7777/8888/N_..._thought.shtml

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    Originally Posted by Zavijava View Post
    Something to think about before buying NAC:

    http://foodconsumer.org/7777/8888/N_..._thought.shtml
    That is interesting, but I think the health benefits, especially when using it to mitigate against damage from exogenous compounds outweigh the potential risk.

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    Originally Posted by Zavijava View Post
    Something to think about before buying NAC:

    http://foodconsumer.org/7777/8888/N_..._thought.shtml
    Now that's interesting. Something to think about.

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    Originally Posted by Rogue Drone View Post
    Here's the Mechanics - NAC stimulates Glutamate, which stimulates Dopamine, the reward chemical, both directly and by reducing GABA.

    By itself, NAC won't cure addictions (Gambling/Nicotine/Stims/Sex, etc.) but it's a good addition to further the effects of a Dopamine/NE Treatment Protocol.

    NAC has a half life of 6.25 hours, dose at 0.6 gms or more, 3 -4X Daily.

    This is a part, a small part, of how I got my brother in law off Meth, successfully, so far, after 3 months back in the Temptation World - Wellbutrin and Deprenyl and Modafinil and NAC and L-Phenyl 10 days beforehand for a baseline buildup, then he and I in a cabin in Montana,(Northern Garfield County) toughing it out with day hikes for 16 days on Coffee and Syntrax Nectar and Maltodextrin, and putting his manic ass to sleep with a half speed palm heel strike/push, Xanax and double shots of Jim Beam.

    Tough Love, the Chemical Adapt and Nature Way.

    I could have sliced him,tempted I was at times, left him to odor for Griz to chow on - Call me Humane, he never was aware that I was ranging back on one that was sloppy trailing our six on most days out and looking for a lazy meal.

    Did you actually write that?^

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    Originally Posted by Zavijava View Post
    Something to think about before buying NAC:

    http://foodconsumer.org/7777/8888/N_..._thought.shtml
    This is really interesting and something that I have never heard of. I would like to know what the dosages administered where.

    NAC has done nothing to curb my gambling appetite.

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    Very interesting!! Ive also heard that it reduces cocaine cravings. If it reduces the urge to gamble,I should probably take it before I go to Vegas next month.

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    Nothing puts me to sleep like a half-speed palm heel strike. Chamomile tea is for wussies.

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