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  1. Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    u are right i am confused i have been lifting and on and off the juice for about 20yrs and never heard of this cycle or post cyle support, i always just took nolvadex or hcg. how should i take or what amount of cylce support and or post cycle should i take. And if i had to take one or the other meaning serm and cycle support or hcg or post cycle which should i take if i had to
    My post was to Royce...errr, I mean, Roid Gracie...you seem to have the right idea and there seems to have simply been a misunderstanding for RoidGracie...All is well; carry on!!!
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  2. RoidGracie
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    You are correct sir, an oversight on my part.
    Cheers. Maybe I should have spelled it RoydGracie, looking back.
  3. RoidGracie
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    Any word on anything new and exciting coming early this year as far as designers/pro's go? I try to keep up...Is there another thread that keeps up on this that I missed. Or, will this thread just be updated when something new is added, or a new quality clone is added to something that appears to have disappeared...
    Cheers
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  4. Any1 know a good cutting agent with little sides

  5. Quote Originally Posted by KOREAN View Post
    Any1 know a good cutting agent with little sides
    I heard Furazadrol is good

  6. who are you guys finding that still has TST I can't find it anywhere
  7. RoidGracie
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    cutter with minimal sides you ask? Most likely, H-Drol...haven't tried it yet but read and read all I could. Good for a cut, minimal sides, maybe pre-load Hawthorne for any blood pressure issues if one is prone to that, as well as some liver support. I may put my oxyguno/furaguno cycle on hold that I was going to start and do a H-Drol/furaguno cycle instead. There are quite a few H-Drol/furazadrol cycles logged out there and the results look good. Great recomp and probably put on at least 5 pounds in a 4 weeker. :bb2:

  8. Quote Originally Posted by livindreamz View Post
    who are you guys finding that still has TST I can't find it anywhere
    save your money and spend it on something else. TST is incredibly androgenic, incredibly underdoses, and not very anabolic at all.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
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    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  9. ??????????????


    could someone very chemically inclined explain what the hell exactly is the compound in METHOXY-TRN/MEGA-TRN???I bought a couple bottles about two years ago,but I have not yet found REAL info about it...
  10. RoidGracie
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    Just google it...forum threads came right up probably giving you exactly what you are looking for.

  11. just not bud.extensively search done already,no clear answer.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    could someone very chemically inclined explain what the hell exactly is the compound in METHOXY-TRN/MEGA-TRN???I bought a couple bottles about two years ago,but I have not yet found REAL info about it...
    I don't spend as much time on AM as I used to, but I don't think the answer to what exactly it is(was) was ever released and a couple people stated that wanted to run lab testing, but I never heard of tests being performed.

    There are plenty of people that have run it and varying degrees of responses, so user beware. I personally damaged my kidneys and pissed blood with TST/TRN with low dose SD. And I still have a few bottles of each and am cautious to experiment with TST/TRN again due to all the unknowns.

  13. D_Town is correct. Nobody even knows what either of them are. The nomenclature on both were admittedly ambiguous, but supposedly in the ballpark of what they were supposed to be. I'm not sure that we'll ever definitively find out what these two products are/were.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
  14. RoidGracie
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    I've thrown a few hundred dollars down the toilet after getting a compound and then having second thoughts...I'd probably have had second thoughts about these two.
    What I've deep sixed: ProMagnon, Methoxy-Tst, Superdrol, and get this, two of those 500 tab M-1T bottles when they were selling for like $50 each, along with about 3 of the 100 tab bottles..sigh.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I've thrown a few hundred dollars down the toilet after getting a compound and then having second thoughts...I'd probably have had second thoughts about these two.
    What I've deep sixed: ProMagnon, Methoxy-Tst, Superdrol, and get this, two of those 500 tab M-1T bottles when they were selling for like $50 each, along with about 3 of the 100 tab bottles..sigh.
    Wow, as u have read in my previous posts, i had never heard of all this designer stuff, i always used regualr juice, decca, winny, dbol, etc. but i thought this stuff was less toxic or had little side effects but i am reading that is not the case. So my question is why not rely on the regular stuff which at least u know works, its seems like a lot of people are spending money on stuff that doesnt work or has a lot of side effects and second what have u personally found that is outstanding to use and everyone univerally agrees it works and is not to hard on your system, any and all help would be greatly appreciated because i am still confused and i have been reading threads here now for about about a month and a half

  16. Yo Koman, I completely agree with you bro but I am stationed in Maine and these foks up here could care less what they look like I can't find gear anywhere and i don't trust buying the real deal online any suggestions?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by livindreamz View Post
    Yo Koman, I completely agree with you bro but I am stationed in Maine and these foks up here could care less what they look like I can't find gear anywhere and i don't trust buying the real deal online any suggestions?
    Im lucky i live in san diego, so i just cross the border and get ir done. But when i didnt live in calif that if u go to a bodybuilding gym there are always a couple of guys who are obviously on who will help u get some
  18. RoidGracie
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    In my case Koman, it is strictly the legality issue. I know it's a fine line, but the bottom line is, if it's illegal, I'm not going to do it. If they were legal, I would. You are correct about the risks though, some of these designer supplements are by no means safer(depending on the compound that is), while some are, like perhaps Epi and Fura, maybe even H-Drol are pretty forgiving I believe.
  19. RoidGracie
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    I meant to add, I wouldn't just use a dangerous substance because it's legal and take that risk, that would be stupid. I would only use the legal substances that are safer.
    cheers.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I meant to add, I wouldn't just use a dangerous substance because it's legal and take that risk, that would be stupid. I would only use the legal substances that are safer.
    cheers.
    Understandable, two questions when u take these substances do u take blood tests and or clomid to make sure everything is cool. and second question when i first starting asking questions and i also noticed this of another guy u can check previous threads on here, guys were asking us if we were feds, whats up with that?
  21. RoidGracie
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    I don't care if you're a Fed, I have nothing illegal
    Clomid would legally require a script, so, no clomid, or nolva, or any script serm. I haven't had any blood work done but then I haven't done anything risky. Other than just before the ban did a few superdrols but then thought better of it. I feel much better after running two bottles of AI PCS and now finishing up on a couple weeks of Restore. As far as I'm concerned, I wish they'd stop the damn witch hunt already, however, I don't need PH's to achieve my goals, I'm just lazy. I got as big as I would ever want to get by completely natural means, now, I want to get back there, and as quickly as possible, but never by breaking the law, you fed you.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Understandable, two questions when u take these substances do u take blood tests and or clomid to make sure everything is cool. and second question when i first starting asking questions and i also noticed this of another guy u can check previous threads on here, guys were asking us if we were feds, whats up with that?
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.








    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
  23. RoidGracie
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    So true D_Town, the old search feature. Just to be clear, I am NOT afraid of needles. I love pain, I've been married 3x.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I don't care if you're a Fed, I have nothing illegal
    Clomid would legally require a script, so, no clomid, or nolva, or any script serm. I haven't had any blood work done but then I haven't done anything risky. Other than just before the ban did a few superdrols but then thought better of it. I feel much better after running two bottles of AI PCS and now finishing up on a couple weeks of Restore. As far as I'm concerned, I wish they'd stop the damn witch hunt already, however, I don't need PH's to achieve my goals, I'm just lazy. I got as big as I would ever want to get by completely natural means, now, I want to get back there, and as quickly as possible, but never by breaking the law, you fed you.
    this is incredible, so when u ask questions, u are a fed, f the feds, i hate those buzzkillers, but i love how it says on the top of this site, learn, teach and lead, how can u learn when some of u guys automatically think anyone asking a question that might be dumb to u but itsnt to me is a fed, i am sorry for bothering u.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  26. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  27. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  28. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  29. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  30. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  31. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  32. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  33. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.




    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again

  34. Quote Originally Posted by D_town View Post
    First off, Who are "we"? Are you schizo or are there more than one of you? Secondly, all the info you have questioned redundantly about is all available by reading old posts.

    There are dangerous supps and not so dangerous supps. But, they are legal. Many do legal and illegal hormones. Many won't use use illegal for the simple sense that they are illegal. Some don't like needles. Some like convenience. And others cannot obtain illegal juice even if they wanted to.

    Many people get blood tests and most do not. The results of those have varied from not much change in levels to very unhealthy results (which correct when usage ceases).

    When taking short cycles, such as the legal pills, most don't take anti-estrogens/ SERMs while ON, but it definately depends on which compound they are taking. Most do take something for post cycle therapy. Ancillaries are a must.








    NOTE: How weird is that?? When I type P.C.T. with no punctuation, the PC/ AM spells it out!!!
    Repped

  35. Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again
    Yo koman, no need to get your panties in a wad. It is advocated heavily on this board that if you have general questions, use the search function and read... if that does not yeild your desired results, then start a new thread and ask your question. The questions that you asked have been asked (and answered) ad nauseum already and you would have gotten your answers quicker had you done some searching.

    Oh yeah, no need also for the multiple posting... 5 times??


    Anyway. Everyone means well through their posts and there is no intent to offend

  36. Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Well thank u for the info, when i said we i said specifically me and some other guy (i didnt look back to see his name) had asked questions and we were both hit with the are u feds B>S., why is everyone so paranoid. No need to call me a schizo dog, i havent disrespected u, so lets keep this chill. I just have questions because i am brand new to this, it is a brand new world to me, and i thought it might be an alternative to being on the juice, since it is illegal but what i am reading i should just probably stick with what got me big because either way there are side effects. sorry if i bothered u to i just wanted to be informed
    not accused or insulted, peace. i wont bother u again
    As stated by LME, I was not intending to insult you. I have sarcasm deeply seeded in my veins. I figured you were talking about someone besides you. I just couldn't pass at the alley-oop I was served. You know, funny, haha.

    I answered every question you posed, in brief answer form. There are thousands of members and everyone's experience, desires and even bodies are different. That is why reading old posts are so invaluable; the threads contain multiple bro's input and there are an incredible amount of them. If they were not used to "Learn, Teach, and Lead" then we might as well delete them because they take up a lot of space, which is why Bobo spent his $ and ugraded the server quite some time ago.

    Don't feel disrespected, there is no malintent. If the multiple posts was an accident, oops; if they were from your multiple personalities... LMAO
  37. RoidGracie
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    I didn't quite catch that last post by Koman......what did it say?
    You know, the post that is showing up like 20 times. I had heard that Feds have the ability to enter a post and make it show up 50x.

  38. Great stuff

  39. Quote Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I had heard that Feds have the ability to enter a post and make it show up 50x.
    Actually, that is true

  40. Is not!
    Is not!
    Is not!
    Is not!

    <I tried to post is not in successive posts, but the damn forum seems to be learning my ways and wouldn't allow it!>
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
  

  
 

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