[thesinner]

All better

[phaeton66]

Awesome post. I had been compiling a sort of "scorecard" like this myself, to keep track of what is what, but got nowhere near your completeness and level of detail.

One thing I'll argue with a bit:

Originally Posted by thesinner

Prostanozol/ Orasan-E
Innovators: Gaspari Nutrition, ALRI
Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
Pill size: 25mg
Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this)
Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss.
Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains.
This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol).

I've read very out of whack liver and lipids from this substance, at least when combined with other allegedly mild (non methylated) substances. I think there is something whacky about the base compound; I know winny also profoundly alters liver and lipids. Anyway, until someone uses it by itself and gets blood tests, there really is no hard data on its mildness. It has a reputation as being mild, but other substances have actual hard data one way or another. The data on this one seem awfully skewed towards the M-1T end of things without the payoff.

-p66

[haroldjg]

Hey sinner, could you possibly list in your write-up which steroids are class I and which steroids are class II. The hardest part for me personally when researching the steroids is trying to predict whether the steroid is class I or II. I havent really found much definitive data on this, and I think that it would be very beneficial for most users.

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by haroldjg

Hey sinner, could you possibly list in your write-up which steroids are class I and which steroids are class II. The hardest part for me personally when researching the steroids is trying to predict whether the steroid is class I or II. I havent really found much definitive data on this, and I think that it would be very beneficial for most users.

I honestly don't know what you mean by the classes. Can you please elaborate?

[stxnas]

I believe he's referring to their control status.

[haroldjg]

Class I activity refering to activity involving the androgen receptor. Class II activity refering to activity not mediated by the androgen receptor. Example of a primarilly Class I --- Tren. Example of a primarilly Class II --- Anadrol or Boldenone. Maybe I am mixed up or something...... these are just characteristics I look for in steroids. When I look for steroids that would stack well together I always look for a Class I and a Class II. Maybe I am screwed up and shouldnt look for these characteristics anymore.

[poopypants]

not screwed up at all.... cept most people figure classes considering it Androgenic or Anabolic or dry and wet. class I and II are ususally used in reference to controlled substances inlcuding rec drugs......

but choosing your substances accordingly is VERY important when considering your goals and/or stacks.

[grila jujitsu]

so what is Methyl E? i noticed it's chem comp is close to havoc/epi but not only hlaf of it matchs up! so is it a new compound?

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by grila jujitsu

so what is Methyl E? i noticed it's chem comp is close to havoc/epi but not only hlaf of it matchs up! so is it a new compound?

This is by EST (if my memory serves me correctly) it is a Havoc/epi clone. Double check the nomenclature on the site you saw it on. It could be one of two things:
1) They're using a synonym.
2) There's a typo in that site's write-up. (These are actually fairly common).

[Travis]

Love this thread....and why hasnt it been stickied yet??

[grila jujitsu]

Originally Posted by thesinner

This is by EST (if my memory serves me correctly) it is a Havoc/epi clone. Double check the nomenclature on the site you saw it on. It could be one of two things:
1) They're using a synonym.
2) There's a typo in that site's write-up. (These are actually fairly common).

fo sho brah ! thatnks for the info. i was looking at it on a website.

[thesinner]

Well, it's still not 100% completed yet.

We're still awaiting more info on furaguno, oxyguno, 3-AD, and whatever it is that Ergopharm has been cooking up.

[bLacKjAck.]

Bump.

Looking forward to this becoming a sticky.

[poopypants]

sticky icky icky!!!

[gogo]

Originally Posted by poopypants

sticky icky icky!!!

Oooheeeeee, put it in the air!