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  1.  06-27-2008  12:57 PM
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    I can't recall seeing anyone dosing OT over 60mg
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    1, 4 AD Bold 200 + Epistane stacked together. run bold 200 weeks 1-8, and epistane weeks 5-8

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    im currently back in lifting mode after a 5 year break (high school)
    football lol , any way i lost alot of mass and since i havent been in a gym for a while i thought i take a short cut , the pro-hormone way which is stupid once u hear my stack , i should just go with the real stuff but unfortunately i dont have any reliable sources ,


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    20mg of sd
    20mg of pp
    10 mg of fini
    (btw this is ridiculous on ur liver and i strongly dont recommend this stack for endomorphs .... )


    i realized i have a problem eating as well is this gonna be a problem with the stack im taking ??
    im seriously itching to get jakked so far ive been on this stack for 8 days and vasculars are serious , pumps look crazy and ill but with out eating as much as i should i feel like its a waste ??

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    Originally Posted by AssBreaker500 View Post
    im currently back in lifting mode after a 5 year break (high school)
    football lol , any way i lost alot of mass and since i havent been in a gym for a while i thought i take a short cut , the pro-hormone way which is stupid once u hear my stack , i should just go with the real stuff but unfortunately i dont have any reliable sources ,


    stack
    20mg of sd
    20mg of pp
    10 mg of fini
    (btw this is ridiculous on ur liver and i strongly dont recommend this stack for endomorphs .... )


    i realized i have a problem eating as well is this gonna be a problem with the stack im taking ??
    im seriously itching to get jakked so far ive been on this stack for 8 days and vasculars are serious , pumps look crazy and ill but with out eating as much as i should i feel like its a waste ??
    Eat more. AAS won't give you **** if you don't eat enough anyhow, except a smaller wallet. Just eat more, period.

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    eat eat eat eat!!! lucky for me, my mom's making arroz y pollo every other night, so i'm getting a steady supply of protein and carbs. . . gotta love chicken, rice and beans. . . yum

  6.  07-05-2008  08:06 PM
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    Originally Posted by Ziquor View Post
    Eat more. AAS won't give you **** if you don't eat enough anyhow, except a smaller wallet. Just eat more, period.
    wait, beyond a smaller wallet it could also give you gyno. you left that out....

    If you are worried about eating enough to gain the weight, don't forget that you also will need to eat more after gaining 10lbs of muscle, and your daily protein need will be higher, so your long term eating expenses go up as well....
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    Compound - H-drol
    Side effect (putting that mildly) Diverticulitis
    Not fun at all.
    Moral: No more of any of these "mild" compounds, ever.
    Good luck.

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    I'm amazed ziqour didn't lose all his rep points while I was gone.
    Truly fascinating.

    You look small for someone who's done all you claim to have done and such an expert.....Did you buy a bow flex?

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    RG, you really think H-Drol caused this?

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    I really do, I had suspicions, and now my googling shows a definite connection.

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    eMedicine - Diverticular Disease : Article by A Antoine Kazzi
    High fat and beef diets also cause diverticular disease, probably for the .... use of steroids, immunocompromised patients, and right-sided diverticulitis ...
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    Good luck to all of you. You might feel great now, but you keep playing with the bull and you'll get....................

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    Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I really do, I had suspicions, and now my googling shows a definite connection.
    I am very sorry for your diagnosis.

    I don't mean to be insensitive but diverticulitis can be congenital, is very common and not to mention has hundreds of other predisposing factors besides your use of oral steroids.

    You are drawing a conclusion based on a very casual coincidence rather than causation.

    If I google well enough and long enough I will find that I am already dead and have not had the sense to stop breathing.

    Again, I am sorry for your condition, and wish you well.
    "He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers"

  14.  08-09-2008  07:00 PM
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    Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    I will find that I am already dead and have not had the sense to stop breathing.
    sort of like Keith Richards?
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    Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    Good luck to all of you. You might feel great now, but you keep playing with the bull and you'll get....................
    RoidG, sorry to hear of your issues as well. I understand the point that you are trying to make. My thoughts are that these are all new compounds. WE are the "clinical trials" so to speak, knowhattamean? Anyone who doesn't truly realize this has it twisted.

    ...and if your beef with Ziquor is the mention of H-Drol being mild, I would have to second that rating. If you view all logs as "trials" as I mentioned earlier, you must categorize the compound by how the majority reacts. In that case I say that H-Drol is mild even though some users (like you) may have adverse "side effects".

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    I feel fine now. At a bare minimum, I'm convinced it aggravated a possible pre-disposition, however, I'm confident I wouldn't have had the attack had I not been on cycle. It happened almost literally at the end of cycle, probably about day 32. At least I am smart enough never to mess with these compounds again, or any supp for that matter.

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    Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I feel fine now. At a bare minimum, I'm convinced it aggravated a possible pre-disposition, however, I'm confident I wouldn't have had the attack had I not been on cycle. It happened almost literally at the end of cycle, probably about day 32. At least I am smart enough never to mess with these compounds again, or any supp for that matter.
    You're right RoidG, building muscle is great but not at the cost of your health. Glad you're better.

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    I think most likely, you can in general get away with more when you are younger. I'd really like to see where everyone is 10 years from now, those who are doing cycle after cycle of these designer orals. My guess is, a few won't be here (among the living) at all.

    Yes, quite dumb for me having the muscle and strength I have from working out naturally. It was an experiment and I've learned my lesson. And these companies will keep making their money, from dummies like I was.

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    Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    I'm amazed ziqour didn't lose all his rep points while I was gone.
    Truly fascinating.

    You look small for someone who's done all you claim to have done and such an expert.....Did you buy a bow flex?

    Interesting, but I've never claimed to have ran many anabolics at all unless you're confused with someone else. In fact in the past few years all I've 'ran' was an H-Drol cycle.

    Sorry to hear of your health issues, I hope only the best outcome.

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    Sometimes making a compound methylated can change it's AA properties. Any of you chemical nomenclature guys know if methyl stenbolone differs significantly from stenbolone in terms of it's anabolic/androgenic profile?

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