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  1. CosmeticAndre ... If you're looking for someone to get concerned and cry you a river because your boyfriend might be using steroids, I think you're in the wrong place. Not only because people here use them without any problems, but also because this is clearly a conversation you should be having with him. People here taking steroids doesn't make us stupid, your reaction to this situation and your approach make you ignorant.

  2. Furaguno


    Quote Originally Posted by shlong View Post
    What I'll try to explain in simple terms is EPI is not a pro or a conversion 1st pass compound. It is a steroid with a novel design.With a anabolic Q rating of 1100 and androgenic of 92,nice ratio not to mention it's a DHT derivative dry hard results.
    A 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4 dien-3-17-diol...the diol
    is the only difference then Oral turinabol...you see OT has a 17b-ol at it's end, the difference is a diol means that on the "A" ring at the 3 position there is a hydroxyl-group (HO) instead of an (O), and a double bond in the 1 and 4 position ,however
    the first pass conversion thru the liver yields a 80% turnover
    which is damn good compared to all the others Ive dsected molecurley .So what ever they call this one...I think something like Halo da da da something or another it will give you close to the same results as O.T. these 2 are the only ones worth purchasing since they are AAS's
    Look up what Llewellyn says about Furaguno
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  3. Is Havoc by RPN still available for purchase?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by tshaw024 View Post
    Is Havoc by RPN still available for purchase?
    Yes, I think it might be out of stock at Nutraplanet right now, but that will only be temporary. Or you could go elsewhere for it, but that wouldn't be very nice.
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  5. my son is 17 and wants to take 5-deca-zol. Is this something I should be concerned about? Does anyone have any personal experience with this product? Any comments would be appreciated.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mominnebraska View Post
    my son is 17 and wants to take 5-deca-zol. Is this something I should be concerned about? Does anyone have any personal experience with this product? Any comments would be appreciated.
    No personal experience, but from a quick search it looks like a PH/AAS. In which case at 17 years it is definitely not recommended. As a mother it is entirely up to you whether you feel pro-hormones and steroids are "bad" and a "no-no". I do not feel so and feel they do have their place, but at 17 years old they should not be taken. He is too young, still has tons of potential and should focus on diet and training.
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  7. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by mominnebraska View Post
    my son is 17 and wants to take 5-deca-zol. Is this something I should be concerned about? Does anyone have any personal experience with this product? Any comments would be appreciated.
    totally unsafe for him. These fall into the category of designer steroids

    2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol =15mg

    4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol =12.5mg

    are the ingredients, they are better known as superdrol and halodrol 50.

    Slap your kid upside his head, make him eat more beef and brown rice instead. He'll have similar results without having to worry about being sterile later.
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  8. Don't forget the veggies!

    In all seriousness though, your son is at an age that he should grow like a weed if he's eating properly (nutrionally and quantitatively) and working out properly. The only supplements that somebody at that age should even think about are things like creatine, whey, and a multivitamin. They aren't are as sexy as what you asked about, but nor will they cause irreversible issues that a 17 year old could face due to taking designer steroids. If you have any further questions, please feel free to email me at [email protected] and I will gladly answer any of your questions as soon as I can
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  9. I want to MELT ALL the fat!! HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP PP!!!

  10. Needed some help... I'm on a strict diet with a 2700/cal intake per day. Just hit the gym after 1 year and looking to MELT my fat! I'm taking 1ml helio in the fat area's, but was wondering if there is anything that I can stack with this to make this fat MELT happen a liitle faster?

    Is there anything that is more efficient?

    Current Weight:230
    Desired weight: 180

    Need to loose Couple inches of fat, love handles in 45 days! Suggestion....

  11. what is the best prohormone for cutting
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    less food
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    less food
    +

  14. lots of cardio!! and maybe some lypo6 or you can get some kynoselen, it leaned me out pretty good,if you dont mind the injections

  15. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    less food

  16. I never thought of that...............

  17. I MAY have missed it in this thread(there is a LOT to read) but is there a PH/DS that is anything like Anavar. Something to produce solid dry gains while shedding bodyfat and getting hard/vascular?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    I MAY have missed it in this thread(there is a LOT to read) but is there a PH/DS that is anything like Anavar. Something to produce solid dry gains while shedding bodyfat and getting hard/vascular?
    The closest that comes to mind off the top of my head was MOHN (no longer OTC). As far as currently OTC, perhaps prostanozol. Halodrol & Promagnon are also options, but they will probably give you a higher ratio of mass gains than fat loss.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    The closest that comes to mind off the top of my head was MOHN (no longer OTC). As far as currently OTC, perhaps prostanozol. Halodrol & Promagnon are also options, but they will probably give you a higher ratio of mass gains than fat loss.
    So Furazadrol is pretty much prostanozol, right? Just a brand name?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    So Furazadrol is pretty much prostanozol, right? Just a brand name?
    Nope. Furazadrol is non-17aa furazobol (Miotolan) with a THP ether. Prostanozol is non-17aa stanozol (Winstrol) with a THP ether. The main difference between the two is furazadrol has a furazan ring system instead of the pyrazole prostanozol has.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    Nope. Furazadrol is non-17aa furazobol (Miotolan) with a THP ether. Prostanozol is non-17aa stanozol (Winstrol) with a THP ether. The main difference between the two is furazadrol has a furazan ring system instead of the pyrazole prostanozol has.
    And the difference in english? What is the difference in the rings? I am not a chemist so please try to answer in layman`s terms or point me in the right direction to understand this. Thanks.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    And the difference in english? What is the difference in the rings? I am not a chemist so please try to answer in layman`s terms or point me in the right direction to understand this. Thanks.
    Well in regards to your first question, "What's like Anavar?", the difference in the rings of prostan and furaz does not matter.

    In regards to the next question, "Furazadrol is pretty much prostanozol, right?", that's where the rings came into play, just to say now they are not the same.

    To point you in the right direction, check out the first post of this thread or check out this one - OTC Hormone Chart - for each one's profile. This page lists Furazadrol as Furaguno/Orastan-A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    And the difference in english? What is the difference in the rings? I am not a chemist so please try to answer in layman`s terms or point me in the right direction to understand this. Thanks.
    they are different chemicals, but effectiveness is moderately similar as far as anabolic/androgenic/hardening goes, how they affect other bits and pieces of body chemistry is likely different
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  24. Will do. Thanks for the reply and the patience.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    they are different chemicals, but effectiveness is moderately similar as far as anabolic/androgenic/hardening goes, how they affect other bits and pieces of body chemistry is likely different
    Thank you.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by CosmeticAndre View Post
    Hi, I'm hopeing someone can help please
    My boyfriend has started doing alot of weight lifting and over the weeks

    become very gressive and moody.
    I cant think of why he would suddenly change like this?
    He take loads of different of pills throught out the day and becomes

    irritable if he misses them.
    Am I peing paranoid because I think they might be steroids?
    The way you guys dealt with this was pretty much..."Tool".....KgTomCat, BBR

    What the hell? I mean, if she is worried someone she cares about is taking steroids, you should have offered her advice, or a way to talk to him about it. Do you forget that in general women are sensitive about such things? She may have had a serious concern, something that was effecting her relationship, and she wanted help.

    Dang...Learn, Teach, Lead my Arse.....

    Of course the lady was likely ignorant about steroid use, WHY else would she be asking...and you cant tell her to "Search" because that is what she was doing, she aint planning a dang cycle. Jeeze....

    Hope you feel big about yourselves.

    If I could spit on the ground before you I would.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    The way you guys dealt with this was pretty much..."Tool".....KgTomCat, BBR

    What the hell? I mean, if she is worried someone she cares about is taking steroids, you should have offered her advice, or a way to talk to him about it. Do you forget that in general women are sensitive about such things? She may have had a serious concern, something that was effecting her relationship, and she wanted help.

    Dang...Learn, Teach, Lead my Arse.....

    Of course the lady was likely ignorant about steroid use, WHY else would she be asking...and you cant tell her to "Search" because that is what she was doing, she aint planning a dang cycle. Jeeze....

    Hope you feel big about yourselves.

    If I could spit on the ground before you I would.
    Im sorry for what I said, I honestly didn't mean for to come across the wrong way. If she has a problem with him or w/e he is doing, then she should talk to him and get to the bottom of it...there is NO time for bull$hit and games, in my book

  28. Great post bro. Rep points given.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    Im sorry for what I said, I honestly didn't mean for to come across the wrong way. If she has a problem with him or w/e he is doing, then she should talk to him and get to the bottom of it...there is NO time for bull$hit and games, in my book
    I understand you bro, and I respect that. But I have seen many facets of life(not saying you haven't), and I myself know girls(from church I.E) that would not know any signs of steroid use, or know how to talk to a guy about it. And they are much more timid, caring and proper, but not as rough and willing to take steps out of their comfort zone.

    Not everyone is a head on warrior. Personally, yeah I want stuff dealt with up front, and NOW. But I have made enough mistakes, and spent enough time in leadership positions to know how important it is to understand not everyone can do what seems simple to you. Such as stage anxiety, personal fears, etc.

    Since I have been forced to take countless psychology courses because I am going into Education as my career I have learned that no situation is as simple as it seems. Personal emotions bring leaders to their knees, it is a passion for the greater good that instills them with power.

    Its all in the past I guess anyways bro.

    I agree with you to an extent, but as a person who has to place the well being of others over their own, I have to not agree lol.

    At any rate, tis all goood, no hardy feelins :dl:

    Lift On!

  30. I stick by what I said, if she has a problem with him using steroids she should be talking to him, not coming and talking to us. The implications of what she said inferred that she was approaching the topic with a fairly close minded and negative frame of reference. I understand her concern, but she's directing it at the wrong guys.
    That dude's first respond "Shut Up Bitch" was pretty daft, but then to imply that his idiocy is due to steroid use was rather ignorant. Did you neg her for her response? I highly doubt it. Her being concerned about her boyfriend wasnt the ignorance I was referring to, the insinuations of her second post was.
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