Designer Steroid/prohormone profiles
- 03-20-2008, 12:31 AM
- 03-22-2008, 06:47 AM
03-22-2008, 06:47 AM
03-22-2008, 06:48 AM
03-24-2008, 03:22 AM
03-26-2008, 07:10 AM
03-26-2008, 01:12 PM
03-27-2008, 03:59 PM
Thats why I jumped all over it when it was in bulk at NP. Sad thing is the company wont bump up the dose anytime soon cause people keep buying it as it is now and they know theyll make more money this way...... we need another bulk offering of this compound baaaaaad.
04-03-2008, 06:33 PM
04-03-2008, 06:34 PM
Bump. I added info on 3-AD. When Ergopharm's 1-AD comes out, I'll be sure to add that as well.
04-06-2008, 05:51 AM
04-06-2008, 09:32 AM
you could call DHEA a prohormone to test, so just saying that means nothing. its all about what % converts to it, and what else it may get converted to at the same time.
That said, I can't imagine PA putting out anything that didn't work well.
04-06-2008, 01:22 PM
The old 1-AD converted into 1-Test. I was kinda hoping the newer one to be something else. We will see, I guess.
04-16-2008, 09:03 PM
04-23-2008, 06:20 PM
bump for info added about methyl xt, there seems to be some confusion about what it is. From what I have found it seems to be a precursor to M1T, but what do I know. Most feedback I have read indicates great strength gains but minimal size.
04-24-2008, 06:32 PM
Methyl XT is methylated 1-AD. The methylation seemed to change the compound quite a bit which is typically true of any compund getting methylated. I've seen the same - incredible strength gains with minimal mass. The compounds that a great for strength but don't pack on mass usually work best for cutting.
04-26-2008, 02:53 PM
Very nice work Z! I use your chart for reference all the time now.
Question: What if you were to put straight, injectable Testosterone on the chart as a baseline reference? How does test stand up to the designers in terms of pros and cons? For instance, lower liver toxicity but illegal without an Rx. Cheaper, but requires IM injection. I'm sure there's other issues I'm not thinking of right now. Just a thought...
04-26-2008, 03:06 PM
04-26-2008, 06:04 PM
Wow with Test it's tough to really compare it to oral methyls. Typically the standard for orals is methyl-test which has slightly different properties. But I'm sure it's been said numerous times somewhere nothing really can compare to regular test, especially as a base.
04-27-2008, 03:30 AM
Has anybody tried EpioTren by Intense Nutraceuticals. It has the following blend:
19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3,17-dione and
I recognize the Epi, does anybody recognize the first Nomenclature? couldn't find it on the 1st page.
04-27-2008, 11:26 AM
04-27-2008, 01:10 PM
Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin. Expect tren-like sides.
Reputation: This is a prohormone to dienolone (similar to M-diene). Decent for recomp and increases in strength.
So Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione = 19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3,17-dione?
People use to make the WRONG assumption about Promagnum-25 and Halodrol 50, they assumed they were the same because they have a nomenclature that is almost IDENTICAL yet they are derivatives to of steroids. I'm not a chemist, but would you educate us and care to explain how a Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione = 19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3,17-dione?
04-27-2008, 01:15 PM
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
Also it's been proven that Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione (or 19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3,17-dione) doesn't actually convert to Tren. It's missing a double bond that the body cannot add. It is still active and still converts, but not to tren. PA proved this a while back.
04-28-2008, 10:29 AM
05-27-2008, 01:21 AM
05-28-2008, 11:36 PM
I'm currently stacking halodrol-50 with orastan-A. What do you guys think of throwing some 11-oxo in there for the second half of the cycle? Just wondering.
06-12-2008, 02:26 PM
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06-17-2008, 04:50 PM
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