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    lots of cardio!! and maybe some lypo6 or you can get some kynoselen, it leaned me out pretty good,if you dont mind the injections
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    I MAY have missed it in this thread(there is a LOT to read) but is there a PH/DS that is anything like Anavar. Something to produce solid dry gains while shedding bodyfat and getting hard/vascular?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    I MAY have missed it in this thread(there is a LOT to read) but is there a PH/DS that is anything like Anavar. Something to produce solid dry gains while shedding bodyfat and getting hard/vascular?
    The closest that comes to mind off the top of my head was MOHN (no longer OTC). As far as currently OTC, perhaps prostanozol. Halodrol & Promagnon are also options, but they will probably give you a higher ratio of mass gains than fat loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    The closest that comes to mind off the top of my head was MOHN (no longer OTC). As far as currently OTC, perhaps prostanozol. Halodrol & Promagnon are also options, but they will probably give you a higher ratio of mass gains than fat loss.
    So Furazadrol is pretty much prostanozol, right? Just a brand name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    So Furazadrol is pretty much prostanozol, right? Just a brand name?
    Nope. Furazadrol is non-17aa furazobol (Miotolan) with a THP ether. Prostanozol is non-17aa stanozol (Winstrol) with a THP ether. The main difference between the two is furazadrol has a furazan ring system instead of the pyrazole prostanozol has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    Nope. Furazadrol is non-17aa furazobol (Miotolan) with a THP ether. Prostanozol is non-17aa stanozol (Winstrol) with a THP ether. The main difference between the two is furazadrol has a furazan ring system instead of the pyrazole prostanozol has.
    And the difference in english? What is the difference in the rings? I am not a chemist so please try to answer in layman`s terms or point me in the right direction to understand this. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    And the difference in english? What is the difference in the rings? I am not a chemist so please try to answer in layman`s terms or point me in the right direction to understand this. Thanks.
    Well in regards to your first question, "What's like Anavar?", the difference in the rings of prostan and furaz does not matter.

    In regards to the next question, "Furazadrol is pretty much prostanozol, right?", that's where the rings came into play, just to say now they are not the same.

    To point you in the right direction, check out the first post of this thread or check out this one - OTC Hormone Chart - for each one's profile. This page lists Furazadrol as Furaguno/Orastan-A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    And the difference in english? What is the difference in the rings? I am not a chemist so please try to answer in layman`s terms or point me in the right direction to understand this. Thanks.
    they are different chemicals, but effectiveness is moderately similar as far as anabolic/androgenic/hardening goes, how they affect other bits and pieces of body chemistry is likely different
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    Will do. Thanks for the reply and the patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    they are different chemicals, but effectiveness is moderately similar as far as anabolic/androgenic/hardening goes, how they affect other bits and pieces of body chemistry is likely different
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmeticAndre View Post
    Hi, I'm hopeing someone can help please
    My boyfriend has started doing alot of weight lifting and over the weeks

    become very gressive and moody.
    I cant think of why he would suddenly change like this?
    He take loads of different of pills throught out the day and becomes

    irritable if he misses them.
    Am I peing paranoid because I think they might be steroids?
    The way you guys dealt with this was pretty much..."Tool".....KgTomCat, BBR

    What the hell? I mean, if she is worried someone she cares about is taking steroids, you should have offered her advice, or a way to talk to him about it. Do you forget that in general women are sensitive about such things? She may have had a serious concern, something that was effecting her relationship, and she wanted help.

    Dang...Learn, Teach, Lead my Arse.....

    Of course the lady was likely ignorant about steroid use, WHY else would she be asking...and you cant tell her to "Search" because that is what she was doing, she aint planning a dang cycle. Jeeze....

    Hope you feel big about yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    The way you guys dealt with this was pretty much..."Tool".....KgTomCat, BBR

    What the hell? I mean, if she is worried someone she cares about is taking steroids, you should have offered her advice, or a way to talk to him about it. Do you forget that in general women are sensitive about such things? She may have had a serious concern, something that was effecting her relationship, and she wanted help.

    Dang...Learn, Teach, Lead my Arse.....

    Of course the lady was likely ignorant about steroid use, WHY else would she be asking...and you cant tell her to "Search" because that is what she was doing, she aint planning a dang cycle. Jeeze....

    Hope you feel big about yourselves.

    If I could spit on the ground before you I would.
    Im sorry for what I said, I honestly didn't mean for to come across the wrong way. If she has a problem with him or w/e he is doing, then she should talk to him and get to the bottom of it...there is NO time for bull$hit and games, in my book
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    Im sorry for what I said, I honestly didn't mean for to come across the wrong way. If she has a problem with him or w/e he is doing, then she should talk to him and get to the bottom of it...there is NO time for bull$hit and games, in my book
    I understand you bro, and I respect that. But I have seen many facets of life(not saying you haven't), and I myself know girls(from church I.E) that would not know any signs of steroid use, or know how to talk to a guy about it. And they are much more timid, caring and proper, but not as rough and willing to take steps out of their comfort zone.

    Not everyone is a head on warrior. Personally, yeah I want stuff dealt with up front, and NOW. But I have made enough mistakes, and spent enough time in leadership positions to know how important it is to understand not everyone can do what seems simple to you. Such as stage anxiety, personal fears, etc.

    Since I have been forced to take countless psychology courses because I am going into Education as my career I have learned that no situation is as simple as it seems. Personal emotions bring leaders to their knees, it is a passion for the greater good that instills them with power.

    Its all in the past I guess anyways bro.

    I agree with you to an extent, but as a person who has to place the well being of others over their own, I have to not agree lol.

    At any rate, tis all goood, no hardy feelins :dl:

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    I stick by what I said, if she has a problem with him using steroids she should be talking to him, not coming and talking to us. The implications of what she said inferred that she was approaching the topic with a fairly close minded and negative frame of reference. I understand her concern, but she's directing it at the wrong guys.
    That dude's first respond "Shut Up Bitch" was pretty daft, but then to imply that his idiocy is due to steroid use was rather ignorant. Did you neg her for her response? I highly doubt it. Her being concerned about her boyfriend wasnt the ignorance I was referring to, the insinuations of her second post was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    I understand you bro, and I respect that. But I have seen many facets of life(not saying you haven't), and I myself know girls(from church I.E) that would not know any signs of steroid use, or know how to talk to a guy about it. And they are much more timid, caring and proper, but not as rough and willing to take steps out of their comfort zone.

    Not everyone is a head on warrior. Personally, yeah I want stuff dealt with up front, and NOW. But I have made enough mistakes, and spent enough time in leadership positions to know how important it is to understand not everyone can do what seems simple to you. Such as stage anxiety, personal fears, etc.

    Since I have been forced to take countless psychology courses because I am going into Education as my career I have learned that no situation is as simple as it seems. Personal emotions bring leaders to their knees, it is a passion for the greater good that instills them with power.

    Its all in the past I guess anyways bro.

    I agree with you to an extent, but as a person who has to place the well being of others over their own, I have to not agree lol.

    At any rate, tis all goood, no hardy feelins :dl:

    Lift On!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBR View Post
    I stick by what I said, if she has a problem with him using steroids she should be talking to him, not coming and talking to us. The implications of what she said inferred that she was approaching the topic with a fairly close minded and negative frame of reference. I understand her concern, but she's directing it at the wrong guys.
    That dude's first respond "Shut Up Bitch" was pretty daft, but then to imply that his idiocy is due to steroid use was rather ignorant. Did you neg her for her response? I highly doubt it. Her being concerned about her boyfriend wasnt the ignorance I was referring to, the insinuations of her second post was.
    thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBR View Post
    I stick by what I said, if she has a problem with him using steroids she should be talking to him, not coming and talking to us. The implications of what she said inferred that she was approaching the topic with a fairly close minded and negative frame of reference. I understand her concern, but she's directing it at the wrong guys.
    That dude's first respond "Shut Up Bitch" was pretty daft, but then to imply that his idiocy is due to steroid use was rather ignorant. Did you neg her for her response? I highly doubt it. Her being concerned about her boyfriend wasnt the ignorance I was referring to, the insinuations of her second post was.
    Why would I neg her when you guys ran her off the board 3 months ago o.o

    lol.

    Like I said I understand mate. Moreover I think it was that "Shut Up B***" part that sent me off, but on both of you. And your explanation of that second comment makes more sense.

    Tis a crazy world. Could have just been rough day or whatnot. I just realized after that second post she probably lost faith in any idea of help coming from our board. We are NOT bb.com....tis all I have to say -.- lol.

    We all just need more love!
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    good post man, thanks for the help, 3-ad sounds like good **** you think its good for a 18-20 year old guy, you said side effects mild
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    Quote Originally Posted by at1010 View Post
    good post man, thanks for the help, 3-ad sounds like good **** you think its good for a 18-20 year old guy, you said side effects mild
    what about a 21 year old?
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    I just bought P6 Black with the following ingredients:

    Androsta 1,4 diene 3-17 dione - 40mg
    Androstene 1 ene 3b ol 17 one - 35 mg
    10 Norandrosta 4, 9 diene 3, 17 dione - 18 mg

    I took the product for one week and stopped it yesterday 4/6, as I was told to do a drug and alcohol test on 4/13.

    Is this a legal PH pill or classified as a steroid? Are the any issues with this product and the results that may appear? Should I continue to take the product?

    Any response is appreciated.
    Thanks.
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    im pretty sure p6 black is illegal and thats why cellucore had to come out with the new p6 they make that is supposedly terrrible...ive heard its good stuff and that its right up there with haladrol 50 and 1 ad as far as results never have tried it personally and cant help you with any side effects man....good luck
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    So, here it is... Drug test include the following - THC, COC, PCP, OPI AND AMP
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    can you get info on eq jet????
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    Isn't EQ Jet just 1,4 AD?

    If so, the following excerpt from the first post applies:

    1,4 AD
    Innovator: Molecular Nutrition
    Dosages: 300-600mg
    Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
    Side effects: Mild
    Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone.
    FWIIW, CEL's new product, EQ-Plex, is also a 1,4AD product (coming out soon or just recently released...not sure which).

    EDIT: Introducing EQ-Plex
    Quote Originally Posted by CompEdgeLabs View Post
    Lean, Dry Gains* Non Methylated

    EQ-Plex is a naturally occurring compound that is a direct precursor to Boldenone. It is commonly used by those looking to achieve gains in lean muscle and strength. Due to it not being methylated, it can be used as a stand alone or can be stacked with select other Competitive Edge Labs products.

    EQ-Plex can be incorporated into bulking, lean bulking, recomposition, or cutting cycles.

    Common Dosing Protocols:
    Beginner/Mild Cycle:
    Week 1: 400 mg (2 caps per day)
    Week 2: 600 mg (3 caps per day)
    Week 3: 600 mg (3 caps per day)
    Week 4: 600 mg (3 caps per day)
    Week 5: 600 mg (3 caps per day)
    Week 6: 600 mg (3 caps per day)

    Advanced Cycle:
    Week 1: 600 mg (3 caps per day)
    Week 2: 600 mg (3 caps per day)
    Week 3: 800 mg (4 caps per day)
    Week 4: 800 mg (4 caps per day)
    Week 5: 800 mg (4 caps per day)
    Week 6: 800 mg (4 caps per day)
    Week 7: 800 mg (4 caps per day)
    Week 8: 800 mg (4 caps per day)

    Stacking & Bridging Options:
    Due to EQ-Plex not being methylated, advanced users can stack X-Tren along with select other Competitive Edge Labs products, especially H-Drol and E-Stane.

    During Your Cycle:
    We suggest using our Cycle Assist product while on EQ-Plex for overall support purposes. Cycle Assist can be started at the onset of the cycle, or ideally can be started two weeks before the beginning of the cycle.

    After Your Cycle:
    It is important to be familiar with and to do proper Post Cycle Therapy (PCT), including, but not limited to our PCT Assist Product.

    Supplement Facts:
    Serving Size: 1 capsule
    Servings per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving:
    1, 4 Androstadiene-3, 17-Dione – 200 mg

    Other Ingredients: Cellulose, Gelatin.

    Directions:
    As a dietary supplement, take 1 capsule 2 to 4 times per day. For best results, space dosage out evenly throughout the day. Do not use this product for more than 8 weeks. Take at least an 8 week break between cycles of this product.

    Warning:
    Do not use this product if you are under 21 years of age. This product should not be used by women. Do not use this product if you have high blood pressure, diabetes, or any other physical and/or psychiatric condition. Keep stored in a cool, dry place away from children.
    Quote Originally Posted by CompEdgeLabs View Post
    EQ-Plex will be available at most of our retailers by the end of next week.

    I know that people will inevitably ask us what the pricing will be, and I really cannot say until I start seeing it available as to what will be the average, but i think everyone will be very pleased.
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    I haven't heard of EQ-Plex, I know about P-Mag...
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    I think im gonna stack eq plex with a low dose of havoc. Havoc for some reason kills my appetite so hopefully the eq plex will help with this?

    maybe something like

    Week 1: 600mg eq
    week 2: 600mg eq
    week 3: 600mg eq with 20 mg havoc
    week 4: 600mg eq with 20 mg havoc
    week 5: 600mg eq with 20 mg havoc
    week 6: 600mg eq with 20 mg havoc

    I haven't cycled for like a year and a half so i think this should produce some nice reasonable gains
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    profile for trenadrol?
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    First someone would have to know for sure whats in the caps.
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    Name: 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine
    Standard: Methyltestosterone
    Androgenic: 140
    Anabolic: 380

    Dry? Wet? Sides? Gains? What would this be classified as?
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    if possible, maybe something next to finigenx stating that the current finigenx doesn't contain "tren". still love this info.

    CEL, when are you going to make a prop clone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post

    CEL, when are you going to make a prop clone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dellworkshop View Post
    I just bought P6 Black with the following ingredients:

    Androsta 1,4 diene 3-17 dione - 40mg
    Androstene 1 ene 3b ol 17 one - 35 mg
    19 Norandrosta 4, 9 diene 3, 17 dione - 18 mg

    I took the product for one week and stopped it yesterday 4/6, as I was told to do a drug and alcohol test on 4/13.

    Is this a legal PH pill or classified as a steroid? Are the any issues with this product and the results that may appear? Should I continue to take the product?

    Any response is appreciated.
    Thanks.
    Why P6 has been banned?

    Androsta 1,4 diene 3-17 dione - 40mg (like 1-AD utt, 1-T, 1 andro Rx....legal)
    Androstene 1 ene 3b ol 17 one - 35 mg (?)
    19 Norandrosta 4, 9 diene 3, 17 dione - 18 mg (X-mass, X-tren... legal)
  

  
 

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