First "stack"

[Brandaddy]

I think this is the right place to post this?

So I was going to do my first, "stack". I was thinking i would do Trenevar, epistane, and 1-AD. For pct I was just going to do clomadex. Does this sound good for just a prohormone stack? Or what should I change?

I'm not in any way against legit roids, I actually have a past of drug abuse. So I'm definitely not concerned about a little juice. BUT, I'm just sketched out about buying them because locally they're considerable overpriced, and online is just WAY to sketchy for someone on parole. Lol.

 

[BamBam0319]

Is this your first time using prohormones?

 

[Brandaddy]

Hey, thanks for the reply.

I've used prohormones once before, but not strong ones. It was 5-at, 7-keto, and regular dhea.

 

[bradray5871]

Epistane and dhea would be a great stack, but throwing trenavar in the mix is a bit of an advanced stack. You will get great results dont get me wrong, but the sides from either substance are like night and day.

 

[Brandaddy]

Okay. Thanks for the help

 

[Mikeopsycho]

1-andro , 4-andro and epiandro

 

[Brandaddy]

I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on 1-andro and 4-andro. What kind of results do you think a guy could realistically see in a 8 week cycle with them?

 

[TexasLifter89]

First "stack"

I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on 1-andro and 4-andro. What kind of results do you think a guy could realistically see in a 8 week cycle with them?

We have people on our 1-testosterone, 1ad, and androdiol results seeing 7 lbs + with no sides.

 

[Brandaddy]

We have people on our 1-testosterone, 1ad, and androdiol results seeing 7 lbs + with no sides.

Is that for new or experienced lifters? If that's for experienced lifters, can't really complain about those results from a legal pro hormone. Ha.

 

[sparks2012]

First "stack"

I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on 1-andro and 4-andro. What kind of results do you think a guy could realistically see in a 8 week cycle with them?

I've personally used 1 & 4 andros, actually during the same cycle. Responded decently to them, solid mass gains, same with strength. Enjoyed the cycle and pumps and endurance were improved. I would run them again, no issues reported here.

 

[Brandaddy]

I've personally used 1 & 4 andros, actually during the same cycle. Responded decently to them, solid mass gains, same with strength. Enjoyed the cycle and pumps and endurance were improved. I would run them again, no issues reported here.

Thanks for the input. Maybe I'll go against my natural instinct and start with something lighter and go with the 1-andro, 4-andro.

 

[sparks2012]

Thanks for the input. Maybe I'll go against my natural instinct and start with something lighter and go with the 1-andro, 4-andro.

No worries, everyone is different though so you could have a better reaction or a more "meh" reaction than I did. All in all, from what I've read/experienced myself, 1-Andro/4-Andro are solid.

 

[Brandaddy]

No worries, everyone is different though so you could have a better reaction or a more "meh" reaction than I did. All in all, from what I've read/experienced myself, 1-Andro/4-Andro are solid.

Thanks for the info. I ended up ordering IML super 1 andro, and IML super 4 andro. I saw they had different chemical structures that previous items, but I looked them up and it appeared to still be basically the same chemical. Hopefully Google didn't lie. Ha!

 

[Mikeopsycho]

Thanks for the info. I ended up ordering IML super 1 andro, and IML super 4 andro. I saw they had different chemical structures that previous items, but I looked them up and it appeared to still be basically the same chemical. Hopefully Google didn't lie. Ha!

Sounds good bro what's the dosing on the capsules ? Try and get 330mg both 1 and 4 andro daily , if you want adding in Epi andro is pretty sick to , really
No sides at all

 

[Brandaddy]

Sounds good bro what's the dosing on the capsules ? Try and get 330mg both 1 and 4 andro daily , if you want adding in Epi andro is pretty sick to , really
No sides at all

I was thinking about adding it. Maybe I'll just throw it in to ensure a good run. Ha. I just now realized I need to order some more like right now anyways because 1 bottle will only last about 6 days. Ha. I did see hit-tech pharma had the same ingredients but for more mg's to the dollar. So I'll probably order theirs this time to save a couple bucks.

 

[Mikeopsycho]

Yeah order a higher doses one I use Olympus labs sup3r-1 and sup3r-4 and sup3r Epi , you can upgrade to an elite bottle for like ten bucks more and comes with 90 caps each

 

[Jebrook]

I was thinking about adding it. Maybe I'll just throw it in to ensure a good run. Ha. I just now realized I need to order some more like right now anyways because 1 bottle will only last about 6 days. Ha. I did see hit-tech pharma had the same ingredients but for more mg's to the dollar. So I'll probably order theirs this time to save a couple bucks.

Good call. Good results with the Andros are definitely dependent on the dosage. IMO, the ph's that rely on an ester or absorption system in order to lower the dose are not reliable. OL UK 1,4, and Epi are all dosed as high as possible like HT's. Both have absorbtion enhancement but don't rely on that to justify low dosing. We also have a nice sale going on:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/280709-olympus-uk-gift.html

 

[TexasLifter89]

Thanks for the info. I ended up ordering IML super 1 andro, and IML super 4 andro. I saw they had different chemical structures that previous items, but I looked them up and it appeared to still be basically the same chemical. Hopefully Google didn't lie. Ha!

the ones I mentioned were our andro products.nomenclature can be written different ways

 

[Brandaddy]

the ones I mentioned were our andro products.nomenclature can be written different ways

****... too bad it didn't click in my head that was the brand you were talying about. I would've just originally ordered it and saved myself a couple bucks

 

[bradray5871]

Run em high or you will be disappointed!

 

[TexasLifter89]

****... too bad it didn't click in my head that was the brand you were talying about. I would've just originally ordered it and saved myself a couple bucks

More importantly over double the dosage per pill

 

[Brandaddy]

Run em high or you will be disappointed!

Do got think 440 a day of 1-andro and 300 a day of 4-andro would be alright?

 

[Brandaddy]

Actually, how about 600 1-andro and 500 4-andro? No sense I'm being stingy. Ha.

 

[Mikeopsycho]

Do got think 440 a day of 1-andro and 300 a day of 4-andro would be alright?

Usually 300-600 for beginners is the dosing for 1-andro . I would run it around 300 the first week and see how you react , and up it the second week etc . Have to
See how your body reacts , I started 330 , now
I'm
At 550 for my last two weeks I tried 660 and got way to much tension , the shakes and stuff not sure why but when I went back down to 550 I can handle it . I would
Keep the 4-andro at 300 or 400

 

[ahawk01]

We have people on our 1-testosterone, 1ad, and androdiol results seeing 7 lbs + with no sides.

I finished a 4 week cycle of androdial, 1 andro, 4 andro, and epi andro. I absolutely had the best gains since my newb gains. Absolutely would run again.

 

[Brandaddy]

I finished a 4 week cycle of androdial, 1 andro, 4 andro, and epi andro. I absolutely had the best gains since my newb gains. Absolutely would run again.

Man... if I could go through newb gains again... that would be a dream come true. Ha!

 

[warlordwrug]

Why don't you just run epistane or trenavar by itself.trenavar at 90mg or epistane at 40mg-50mg.

 

[Brandaddy]

Why don't you just run epistane or trenavar by itself.trenavar at 90mg or epistane at 40mg-50mg.

I guess because I don't really have a reliable source. I've found a couple that claim they sell it but I couldn't find any proof. Trenevar and epi was actually my first choice. I would've loved to have done it, but then everyone started saying 1 andro and 4 andro works and there are only 1,000 places to buy that from, so I just took the easy route.