Test Level Low after PCT

[bluebullet75]

Not sure where to post this but back a few months ago, 40 yrs old, I did a Epistane (36mg/Trenabol 60mg) cycle for 3.5 weeks. The manufacturer is some local company/shop. Anyway, I gained like 10lbs in such short period and eating 500 below maintenance. Afterwards, I did Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 20/20/20/10/10. 7 weeks after PCT, I did a blood test and results show I have low test and estrogen, but normal FSH and LSH levels I didn't do a baseline (stupid me). Currently, I'm still 5 lbs of it. Someone mentioned they were suspcious of the supplements since I had a little bloat and no back pump when Epi is supposed to be very dry. What would you all recommend? Should I see a doc or give it more time? You think my local PH might've contained something else?

CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 8.3 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL 01
RBC 5.51 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL 01
Hemoglobin 15.5 12.6-17.7 g/dL 01
Hematocrit 44.5 37.5-51.0 % 01
MCV 81 79-97 fL 01
MCH 28.1 26.6-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 34.8 31.5-35.7 g/dL 01
RDW 13.7 12.3-15.4 % 01
Platelets 220 150-379 x10E3/uL 01
Neutrophils 73 % 01
Lymphs 24 % 01
Monocytes 3 % 01
Eos 0 % 01
Basos 0 % 01
Neutrophils (Absolute) 5.9 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL 01
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.0 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL 01
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.3 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL 01
Eos (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL 01
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL 01
Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL 01
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 162 HIGH 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 12 6-20 mg/dL 01
Creatinine, Serum 1.12 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 82 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
eGFR If Africn Am 95 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 11 8-19 01
Sodium, Serum 137 134-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.1 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 98 97-108 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 26 18-28 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.2 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.8 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.2 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.6 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 1.6 1.1-2.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.8 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 57 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 21 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 19 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 168 LOW 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Comment: Comment 01
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH 4.5 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
FSH, Serum
FSH 4.1 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
1 of 2
Estradiol
Estradiol 6.9 LOW 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
Roche ECLIA methodology
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[Goliath1]

You don't know what they were to begin with so it may just be your normal range..

Or your serms were bunk..

 

[bluebullet75]

You don't know what they were to begin with so it may just be your normal range..

Or your serms were bunk..

If it is my normal range, I'm assuming that's still not good? Would it be possible not to loose a lot of the mass gains even with low test ranges?

My liquid clomid is from a reputable company, but I had it stored for about 9 months before using it. Could it have lost it potency?

I feel "normal"...but "normal" for me is a bit tired at times, lower sex drive than when I was 18. Even if this is my normal range, should I still see a doc?

 

[Goliath1]

I'd see a the doc, with those levels he could put you on TRT... I'm sure you'd feel a whole lot better..

The Clomid should be fine...

Keeping Gains, that's going to be up to you as far as diet an training.. I'm sure it will be harder with low T.. But I wouldn't even worry about that..
If your Doc can help you out here, your gains will come a little easier in the future..

 

[SquatsAndOats]

If it is my normal range, I'm assuming that's still not good? Would it be possible not to loose a lot of the mass gains even with low test ranges? My liquid clomid is from a reputable company, but I had it stored for about 9 months before using it. Could it have lost it potency? I feel "normal"...but "normal" for me is a bit tired at times, lower sex drive than when I was 18. Even if this is my normal range, should I still see a doc?

It could be just cause you're 40. I would get another test done then re evaluate. You could then take both test results to a doc if they're low. If you don't have objections (morals, job, Ect) to pinning the rest of your days then trt would be beneficial to you

 

[heavylifter33]

Sounds like the product was spiked, and your pct was bunk. I'd recommend EOD dosing aromasin at a low dose, and using a natural hormone booster in conjunction (to keep the libido happy ). Do that for 20-30 days and get another panel done.

 

[bluebullet75]

Sounds like the product was spiked, and your pct was bunk. I'd recommend EOD dosing aromasin at a low dose, and using a natural hormone booster in conjunction (to keep the libido happy ). Do that for 20-30 days and get another panel done.

Assuming it was spiked with something stronger and my pct was legit, could the spiked product still caused me this long to recover?

 

[bluebullet75]

It could be just cause you're 40. I would get another test done then re evaluate. You could then take both test results to a doc if they're low. If you don't have objections (morals, job, Ect) to pinning the rest of your days then trt would be beneficial to you

How long should I wait before getting another test done?

 

[cotlet]

4-6 weeks for test
Lower the volume
Less reps
Basic movement
Healthy fats up
DAA -test booster

 

[cotlet]

30£ testosteron test private