first time test cyp user

[mkretz]

I was just prescriped test cyp by my doc for low test. i am only 22 but have test in the mid 200s, we have tried many things and clomid worked a little but only got me up to this level.....my script is for 100mg per week

Today was my first injection. I did it myself at the doctors office in my thigh. As soon as i put it in my leg i almost felt it going throughout my leg. Other than that i felt ok. The nurse wanted to have me sit on the table for a while jsut to make sure i didnt have an allergic reaction or anything....well, once i got on the table i began feelin ery liht headed andpassed out......my leg is still bothering me now as well.

Any idea why this happened? do you think its a reaction to the test or just hte whole situation? Thanks for any input

[mkretz]

also, figuring eeryone works out, when is the best time to inject? if there is one....pre workout post workout? before bed?

[heavyiron]

Sounds like your nerves got the best of you. I can inject 3 times in 3 minutes and make breakfast at the same time. You will get used to it.

At your dose the injection time is irrelevant. I know fitness girls on more T than that.

[TFlifting]

Sounds like your nerves got the best of you. I can inject 3 times in 3 minutes and make breakfast at the same time. You will get used to it.

At your dose the injection time is irrelevant. I know fitness girls on more T than that.

Hahaha hey give him a break first injection is nerve wracking... I remember I was very very shaky first injection, start to perspire more, just strange. Anyways yeah that low test is nothing

[WARBIRDWS6]

I have almost the same test level as you (I'm 40 though)...they want me on 100mg max per week, that seems like its not even worth it...how the F is that gonna bring you up from 200-300 levels? makes no sense. why they prescribe 100mg per week is beyond me, should be minimum of 200mg per week. I suppose if after several months the test level does not improve to at least 5-600 they might bump you up....but I'm not even sure of that. and they wonder why people just stockpile TRT test and make a cycle out of it.....

[TFlifting]

I have almost the same test level as you (I'm 40 though)...they want me on 100mg max per week, that seems like its not even worth it...how the F is that gonna bring you up from 200-300 levels? makes no sense. why they prescribe 100mg per week is beyond me, should be minimum of 200mg per week. I suppose if after several months the test level does not improve to at least 5-600 they might bump you up....but I'm not even sure of that. and they wonder why people just stockpile TRT test and make a cycle out of it.....

Yeah I can see logic in 200-300 test but not 100 like come on

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah I can see logic in 200-300 test but not 100 like come on

i guess either A) just give up straightaway and stockpile it/cycle it like normal time on/off time style or B) shoot it up as they recommend, prove to them it doesn't work at that dosage with blood work, then get bumped up hopefully to 200mg or C) take the 100mg per week, supplement it with a topical test booster like a dermacrine and maybe that combo might be effective. I'm not sure how many times they blood test you in one year to check your levels? that will dictate what method will be most effective.... never done it before. I assume they monitor you at least 4 times a year with blood work.

[heavyiron]

My docs have never prescribed less than 200mg Cyp weekly.

[WARBIRDWS6]

My docs have never prescribed less than 200mg Cyp weekly.

the nurse (or whoever is in charge there) led me to believe the "norm" for them is once per month injections of 100 or 200mg....but then she said depending on how low the test level is they can do twice a month injections at 100 or 200mg....so that equates to max of 100mg per week essentially. nonsense, but its hard to explain this to them since they obviously do not comprehend the necessary mg amounts and weekly injections required to bring someone up to mid normal levels at least. just do the math and you can figure this out. I requested a referral to an endo, but they insisted they do it in house at the primary/GP office. I believe we will have a disagreement though when i talk to them next, because that is ludicrous, 100mg per week. I think an endo will know that 200mg plus per week is required. at least I hope so anyways.....

[heavyiron]

the nurse (or whoever is in charge there) led me to believe the "norm" for them is once per month injections of 100 or 200mg....but then she said depending on how low the test level is they can do twice a month injections at 100 or 200mg....so that equates to max of 100mg per week essentially. nonsense, but its hard to explain this to them since they obviously do not comprehend the necessary mg amounts and weekly injections required to bring someone up to mid normal levels at least. just do the math and you can figure this out. I requested a referral to an endo, but they insisted they do it in house at the primary/GP office. I believe we will have a disagreement though when i talk to them next, because that is ludicrous, 100mg per week. I think an endo will know that 200mg plus per week is required. at least I hope so anyways.....

200 per week is standard to start but once your blood androgen levels build they like to back you off. I always go in 8 days from my last inject so my levels are always normal.

[TFlifting]

My test cyp vials are doses way higher than that.. (350mg/ml) brb doing 0.3ml shots... -.-

[DJBeanPole]

Kretz,

Sounds like you had a vasovagal response. How soon after the injection did you faint? I've seen the same exact thing happen right in front of me with my brother. Dad (physician) brought home some flu shots. Gave one in my brothers arm while he was standing. About a minute later his pupils got real big and he took two steps and passed out.

Read up on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response

Look at causes to the reaction. You seem to fit the criteria for "any painful or unpleasant stimuli: Watching or experiencing medical procedures."

Hope that helps explain it. I would think you'd adjust to that over time.

DJ

[mkretz]

Kretz,

Sounds like you had a vasovagal response. How soon after the injection did you faint? I've seen the same exact thing happen right in front of me with my brother. Dad (physician) brought home some flu shots. Gave one in my brothers arm while he was standing. About a minute later his pupils got real big and he took two steps and passed out.

Read up on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response

Look at causes to the reaction. You seem to fit the criteria for "any painful or unpleasant stimuli: Watching or experiencing medical procedures."

Hope that helps explain it. I would think you'd adjust to that over time.

DJ

thanks so much....hopefully this is all it was, we will find out monday when i go in for another shot, now im all worried though....i also did not feel right all day yest and my le bothered me all night, leg doesnt bother me today but i felt a little wierd this morning still

[mkretz]

i guess either A) just give up straightaway and stockpile it/cycle it like normal time on/off time style or B) shoot it up as they recommend, prove to them it doesn't work at that dosage with blood work, then get bumped up hopefully to 200mg or C) take the 100mg per week, supplement it with a topical test booster like a dermacrine and maybe that combo might be effective. I'm not sure how many times they blood test you in one year to check your levels? that will dictate what method will be most effective.... never done it before. I assume they monitor you at least 4 times a year with blood work.

i go back in 5 weeks for test results, im doin 100mg per week, do you think a otc test booster woudl help though with being shut down? i also am secondary hypogonadism sooooo i dunno...i mena i want alot of test and dont wanna wait lol, i want to jsut take twise the amount (200mgs) but with what hapened the other day i dont think ill be able to inject myself so my mom will probably be injecting me and she wont let me do more im sure of it :-(

[lboston]

I have almost the same test level as you (I'm 40 though)...they want me on 100mg max per week, that seems like its not even worth it...how the F is that gonna bring you up from 200-300 levels? makes no sense. why they prescribe 100mg per week is beyond me, should be minimum of 200mg per week. I suppose if after several months the test level does not improve to at least 5-600 they might bump you up....but I'm not even sure of that. and they wonder why people just stockpile TRT test and make a cycle out of it.....

My natty levels are around 180 ng/dl and 100mg every 6 days and I was 899 on my last bloodwork. I was pleasantly surprised!

[SweetLou321]

the nurse (or whoever is in charge there) led me to believe the "norm" for them is once per month injections of 100 or 200mg....but then she said depending on how low the test level is they can do twice a month injections at 100 or 200mg....so that equates to max of 100mg per week essentially. nonsense, but its hard to explain this to them since they obviously do not comprehend the necessary mg amounts and weekly injections required to bring someone up to mid normal levels at least. just do the math and you can figure this out. I requested a referral to an endo, but they insisted they do it in house at the primary/GP office. I believe we will have a disagreement though when i talk to them next, because that is ludicrous, 100mg per week. I think an endo will know that 200mg plus per week is required. at least I hope so anyways.....

My last endo started me on 125mg but id go in 4-5 days after last shot like he asked for blood work and would get 1000-1200s for test. My red blood cell would raise so id have to donate blood every 8 weeks. Backed me off to 100mg blood work would show 800-900s. Back off more to 75mg. Not until my current doc where he wanted me to test 6-7 days after. Blood work came back at 200. So not all docs, even endo truely understand. Raised it to 100mg again and will move further ahead after 3 monthes. They usually test 2-4 times a year based on if your stable or not. However on a positive my pharmacy requires me to get a 10ml bottle every 28 days, bc apparently the new standard for depo is they dont stand behind their product after being open for 28 days. Which leaves me with 6mls of oil to do with as I please. Just a heads up.

[napalm]

My natty levels are around 180 ng/dl and 100mg every 6 days and I was 899 on my last bloodwork. I was pleasantly surprised!

wow, i've been on 100/week and just got back from the endo. my test was 342 6 days after my injection. he bumped me up to 150/week

[SweetLou321]

i go back in 5 weeks for test results, im doin 100mg per week, do you think a otc test booster woudl help though with being shut down? i also am secondary hypogonadism sooooo i dunno...i mena i want alot of test and dont wanna wait lol, i want to jsut take twise the amount (200mgs) but with what hapened the other day i dont think ill be able to inject myself so my mom will probably be injecting me and she wont let me do more im sure of it :-(

You should be fine, my blood work after 4 or so days shows 900s for test. Id just keep an eye on ur free test and dhea.

[lboston]

You should be fine, my blood work after 4 or so days shows 900s for test. Id just keep an eye on ur free test and dhea.

What can it do to DHEA? Never really heard much about this, but my levels of DHEA are off the charts low.

[lboston]

What can it do to DHEA? Never really heard much about this, but my levels of DHEA are off the charts low.

Well, it's on the charts, just below the reference ranges.