first time test cyp user
- 08-22-2012, 11:28 PM
- 08-22-2012, 11:28 PM
- 08-22-2012, 11:42 PM
08-22-2012, 11:47 PM
08-22-2012, 11:52 PM
yes i work.... u think i shoudl try to take alittle more than the 100 mgs per week? so u think teh dermacrine is the mostimportant thin out of all of those? i jsut find it weird to take a test booster while takin test, thanks for all the help, this is a crazy time for me right now
08-23-2012, 12:54 AM
08-23-2012, 05:49 AM
In all honesty man I wouldn't add in anything right now if you want an honest assessment of how the treatment is working for you. You've had one shot, right? It can take around 4 weeks for the shots to get a relatively stable level of blood plasma levels.Originally Posted by mkretz
If you start adding in other things to boos your test then you really won't know you're effective dose. You may respond well to 100mg and be good to go on that. You may bump it up an then end up with some Tatas...you really don't know unless you get the bloodwork.
If anything, I'd maybe use a low dose of erase to modulate the T to E ratio a bit. Other than that I'd leave it alone until after you get some bloodwork.
Just my two cents.
08-23-2012, 12:03 PM
Yeah best to get baseline levels on the test alone after several months....but im an old impatient bastard who wants to jack the damn test up NOW!!!! this one goes to 11 ....but for kretz...he probably should wait till later to incorporate the DHEA and test boosters. Plus im on the pissant gel....he is on 100mg shots...i need extra assistance ...he may not...
08-23-2012, 12:18 PM
Lololol just found your thread here. Im honest to god not loling at you. I did the same thing the second time i pinned. First time i was nervous and all went well aside from shaky hands. Second time i was like this is cake. Jabbed. Pushed 2mls. Pulled the pin. Heard a splash and something warm on my leg... blood everywhere! Down i went. It gets better.Originally Posted by mkretz
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
08-23-2012, 10:30 PM
08-23-2012, 10:39 PM
But for the yes side... at that point into your fast your are injecting a substance into yourself (not pulling something out like in donating blood) and your body is already on the sensitive side of things (insulin included) anyway so suddenly introducing something into your system when there really isn't much circulating to begin with is quite possibly a huge shock for it.
Just my .02.
08-23-2012, 10:40 PM
08-23-2012, 10:42 PM
Agreed. Ive found it better to eat a little pre pin. Helps a little.Originally Posted by DJBeanPole
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
08-23-2012, 11:10 PM
ill make srue i eat somethin this time....i actually used to work with the matrix, he had me on gel for a while
08-23-2012, 11:20 PM
08-23-2012, 11:29 PM
08-23-2012, 11:37 PM
08-24-2012, 12:08 AM
i was taking the pump and doin around 10 a day i believe in order to get my leels around like 880 i think
08-24-2012, 09:24 AM
08-25-2012, 12:15 AM
08-25-2012, 12:43 AM
Kretzy fired his azz you should fire your doctor too....I was gonna fire mine today, but his secretary had all the right answers so I will go along with the plan since it made sense, they are just being too careful wanting to slowly up the dosage month by month...thats cool though, I'm just gonna apply the gel to my balls and increase the absorption to the nth degree! LOL...
08-25-2012, 12:46 AM
i hear u there man, its a long procsess ive been goin through this for too long....and its only the beginning for me, and i cant fire my doc, i really got no where else to o.........
08-25-2012, 12:59 AM
yeah its hard to fire doctors.....complicated....but I mean really....how the FCK am I gonna get "side effects" from a 2.5g gel packet once per day when its absorption is for shyt and I routinely have injected 400-700mg of test per week previously? and 2.5mg (probably) of test per day is gonna give me sides? c'mon man, I'm all for safety but damn thats called straight pus$yfooting around. HIT ME WITH THE 7.5 OR 10G PACKETS MAN!!!
08-25-2012, 12:46 PM
haha yea if i was ok with it u probably woudl be........i uess i shouldnt be too worried abotu sides if i didnt hae any from 10g per day of gel for a while and this is alot less than that.............i think
08-25-2012, 04:15 PM
08-25-2012, 09:46 PM
08-26-2012, 12:47 AM
08-26-2012, 01:33 AM
08-26-2012, 01:44 AM
08-26-2012, 01:55 AM
08-26-2012, 08:00 AM
I'm like you, I've had three if fervent doctors tell me that they like to get their patients to 450-500. Doesn't make sense to me. I started out on this biatch at 172, so that's way better than what I was, but @ 27 I want to be at the top of the scale.Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
08-26-2012, 12:57 PM
08-26-2012, 08:14 PM
08-26-2012, 08:27 PM
Was reading these post yesterday lol haa you all are funny.
If I were you I would demand to see a endo. Doctor has no right to stop you from seeing a endo. I personally would sue the shizz out of them for prescribing such a low does and I would win that case to.
08-26-2012, 08:28 PM
Thanks for sharing. I thought about working with him. What I can't understand is now he works with these doctors and has nearly no formal training in medicine. Seems like it would be a huge liability for the docs.
I'm also afraid it's nearly a sales scheme...
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