first time test cyp user
- 08-21-2012, 10:15 PM
P.S.: and yeah I'd use some sort of AI like erase or whatever, but I'm sensitive to estrogen...not sure about you?
- 08-22-2012, 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by lboston
- 08-22-2012, 08:10 AM
Originally Posted by napalm
Do you use/ have you used DHEA ad well?
08-22-2012, 08:15 AM
It's called THE BRO... LolOriginally Posted by lboston
No, haven't thought about DHEA yet, but I started thinking about erase last night.
I try to keep the thing going in my body to a minimum. That way it's easier to attribute gains (or no gains) to a particular variable.
08-22-2012, 08:48 AM
08-22-2012, 11:18 AM
Yeah like i was alluding to earlier...low dose test should equate to test/DHT and not estrogen...but the DHEA needs to monitored for sure. This is why most transdermal DHEA products include some sort of anti estrogen. Plus guys with low T would probably benefit from an OTC AI anyways. I bet in most cases there is higher estrogen accompanying the low T. Even though these fckfaces won't test for estrogen half the time on insurance because "you're not a woman".
08-22-2012, 11:20 AM
They run seinfeld reruns on DTV at 2 AM ....i watch them as i try to fall asleep. Good shyt ....esp the episode where George does "the opposite" of everything and gets the hot girl and good job etc lol
08-22-2012, 11:28 AM
what bout 7-keto dha, cuz i have some of that and a little tight on budget to buy demacrine..............also, with taking erase, again it only lastsz so long , is it relaly a lon term type of thing cuz this test probaby is long term u know what i mean, im dnot gona be able to buy bottles upon bottles of erase and demacrine
08-22-2012, 11:43 AM
08-22-2012, 11:45 AM
I hear you...i got money to buy this stuff....but damn i don't need to be blowing 40 bucks on dermacrine and whatever copay on my Rx and another 30 bucks for AI every 4-6 weeks.....what i will do is stay on *whatever test they prescribe* plus cycle the transdermal and AI more for off time....then if cycling whatever...just cycle it w/o the derma or AI...or just cycle the derma time on = time off. At your weight minimum pumps are recommended anyways. Or hell ...just pick up cheap oral DHEA at walmart if you have to. But AI and transdermals can be cycled ....youd just be minus the additional test boost when off the derma. Best case is to stay on 365 of course...but nobody is made of $$$. Cheap oral DHEA might work for you though ...give that a shot and see what type of increase it gives you on bloodsOriginally Posted by mkretz
08-22-2012, 11:28 PM
08-22-2012, 11:28 PM
08-22-2012, 11:42 PM
08-22-2012, 11:47 PM
08-22-2012, 11:52 PM
yes i work.... u think i shoudl try to take alittle more than the 100 mgs per week? so u think teh dermacrine is the mostimportant thin out of all of those? i jsut find it weird to take a test booster while takin test, thanks for all the help, this is a crazy time for me right now
08-23-2012, 12:54 AM
08-23-2012, 05:49 AM
In all honesty man I wouldn't add in anything right now if you want an honest assessment of how the treatment is working for you. You've had one shot, right? It can take around 4 weeks for the shots to get a relatively stable level of blood plasma levels.Originally Posted by mkretz
If you start adding in other things to boos your test then you really won't know you're effective dose. You may respond well to 100mg and be good to go on that. You may bump it up an then end up with some Tatas...you really don't know unless you get the bloodwork.
If anything, I'd maybe use a low dose of erase to modulate the T to E ratio a bit. Other than that I'd leave it alone until after you get some bloodwork.
Just my two cents.
08-23-2012, 12:03 PM
Yeah best to get baseline levels on the test alone after several months....but im an old impatient bastard who wants to jack the damn test up NOW!!!! this one goes to 11 ....but for kretz...he probably should wait till later to incorporate the DHEA and test boosters. Plus im on the pissant gel....he is on 100mg shots...i need extra assistance ...he may not...
08-23-2012, 12:18 PM
Lololol just found your thread here. Im honest to god not loling at you. I did the same thing the second time i pinned. First time i was nervous and all went well aside from shaky hands. Second time i was like this is cake. Jabbed. Pushed 2mls. Pulled the pin. Heard a splash and something warm on my leg... blood everywhere! Down i went. It gets better.Originally Posted by mkretz
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
08-23-2012, 10:30 PM
08-23-2012, 10:39 PM
But for the yes side... at that point into your fast your are injecting a substance into yourself (not pulling something out like in donating blood) and your body is already on the sensitive side of things (insulin included) anyway so suddenly introducing something into your system when there really isn't much circulating to begin with is quite possibly a huge shock for it.
Just my .02.
08-23-2012, 10:40 PM
08-23-2012, 10:42 PM
Agreed. Ive found it better to eat a little pre pin. Helps a little.Originally Posted by DJBeanPole
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
08-23-2012, 11:10 PM
ill make srue i eat somethin this time....i actually used to work with the matrix, he had me on gel for a while
08-23-2012, 11:20 PM
08-23-2012, 11:29 PM
08-23-2012, 11:37 PM
08-24-2012, 12:08 AM
i was taking the pump and doin around 10 a day i believe in order to get my leels around like 880 i think
08-24-2012, 09:24 AM
08-25-2012, 12:15 AM
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