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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    Wrong. That's the ban on SD. This blanket ban was just introduced so there's still time
    My bad, thought this was about the sd ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by etnukekav View Post
    My bad, thought this was about the sd ban
    yeah, the SD ban goes into effect at the end of August. This latest bill was introduced a couple weeks ago and would ban a long list of PHs as well as give blanket authority to yank anything else off the shelves they want for up to two years which would stop the development of new compounds. This would effectively end the ride for ph/ds users unless you're willing to go underground, and then you might as well get real gear anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etnukekav
    I'm pretty sure the ban got passed, takes effect on August 28th or 29th this year.
    where did you find that info? I'm curious and can't locate it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    where did you find that info? I'm curious and can't locate it
    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    yeah, the SD ban goes into effect at the end of August. This latest bill was introduced a couple weeks ago and would ban a long list of PHs as well as give blanket authority to yank anything else off the shelves they want for up to two years which would stop the development of new compounds. This would effectively end the ride for ph/ds users unless you're willing to go underground, and then you might as well get real gear anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    where did you find that info? I'm curious and can't locate it
    I haven't seen the official document or story, but I do know retailers are saying that end of the month is when the grace period is up and they are getting everything out of their possession by or before that date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I haven't seen the official document or story, but I do know retailers are saying that end of the month is when the grace period is up and they are getting everything out of their possession by or before that date.
    As of today if you posess superdrol your commiting a felony
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    The kill date for sdrol is Aug 29.... Mod edit: no
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    Our Govt is so whack.... its time to step up on new research... Myostatin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswizle View Post
    Our Govt is so whack.... its time to step up on new research... Myostatin?
    There's already some people doing work on it. There's a few logs floating around. Only problem is that it's expensive as fuark.
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    So, what, if anything, is NOT on that list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl413
    So, what, if anything, is NOT on that list?
    Everything is pretty much covered. Or up to being banned rather quickly
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    Recon if this is gonna affect the sarms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48
    Recon if this is gonna affect the sarms?
    I dont know. I have (6) osta, couple s4 and gw
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    Quote Originally Posted by supraseed48 View Post
    Recon if this is gonna affect the sarms?
    I doubt it. They'd be the last thing to get the boot if anything.
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    **** wasting anytime....research needs to be stepped up... quit ****ing around with technology from the 60's aka synthesize cholesterol

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    Changes in muscle mass may result from changes in protein turnover, reflecting the balance between protein synthesis and protein degradation, and changes in cell turnover, reflecting the balance between myonuclear accretion and myonuclear loss. Myonuclear accretion, i.e. increase in the number of myonuclei within the muscle fibers, takes place via proliferation and fusion of satellite cells, myogenic stem cells associated to skeletal muscle fibers and involved in muscle regeneration. In developing muscle, satellite cells undergo extensive proliferation and most of them fuse with myofibers, thus contributing to the increase in myonuclei during early postnatal stages. A similar process is induced in adult skeletal muscle by functional overload and exercise. In contrast, satellite cells and myonuclei may undergo apoptosis during muscle atrophy, although it is debated whether myonuclear loss occurs in atrophying muscle. An increase in myofiber size can also occur by changes in protein turnover without satellite cell activation, e.g. in late phases of postnatal development or in some models of muscle hypertrophy. The relative role of protein turnover and cell turnover in muscle adaptation and in the establishment of functional muscle hypertrophy remains to be established. The identification of the signaling pathways mediating satellite cell activation may provide therapeutic targets for combating muscle wasting in a variety of pathological conditions, including cancer cachexia, renal and cardiac failure, neuromuscular diseases, as well as aging sarcopenia.
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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22869749
    Role of satellite cells versus myofibers in muscle hypertrophy induced by inhibition of the myostatin/activin signaling pathway

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    Myostatin and activin A are structurally related secreted proteins that act to limit skeletal muscle growth. The cellular targets for myostatin and activin A in muscle and the role of satellite cells in mediating muscle hypertrophy induced by inhibition of this signaling pathway have not been fully elucidated. Here we show that myostatin/activin A inhibition can cause muscle hypertrophy in mice lacking either syndecan4 or Pax7, both of which are important for satellite cell function and development. Moreover, we show that muscle hypertrophy after pharmacological blockade of this pathway occurs without significant satellite cell proliferation and fusion to myofibers and without an increase in the number of myonuclei per myofiber. Finally, we show that genetic ablation of Acvr2b, which encodes a high-affinity receptor for myostatin and activin A specifically in myofibers is sufficient to induce muscle hypertrophy. All of these findings are consistent with satellite cells playing little or no role in myostatin/activin A signaling in vivo and render support that inhibition of this signaling pathway can be an effective therapeutic approach for increasing muscle growth even in disease settings characterized by satellite cell dysfunction.
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    numerous adverse health effects in the human body including liver toxicity, baldness, uncontrolled rage and heart attacks
    are they talking about steroids or ALCOHOL??? This **** is out of control. Who are these *******s telling us what we can and cannot consume. FFS
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    The government is not only taking a shat on our heads, but also research in general... Who knows what working with these compounds in "legal" labs could lead too. Maybe they just blocked a cure for cancer, who knows
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    Just FYI, Elite is liquidating their remaining s-drol for $10/bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny
    Just FYI, Elite is liquidating their remaining s-drol for $10/bottle.
    That's crazy...but what's even crazier I saw a place selling it for $300 a bottle!! Lmfao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    That's crazy...but what's even crazier I saw a place selling it for $300 a bottle!! Lmfao!
    lol, unless that bottle has about 10,000 doses in it, I'd say thats a rip off
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    lol, unless that bottle has about 10,000 doses in it, I'd say thats a rip off
    I wish i had 10,000 doses of SD

    I did see Lgi is letting go of sd for $14 and transform SD for $16
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    I wish i had 10,000 doses of SD

    I did see Lgi is letting go of sd for $14 and transform SD for $16
    damn that's a steal! pm please !?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17

    damn that's a steal! pm please !?
    Sent
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor

    That's crazy...but what's even crazier I saw a place selling it for $300 a bottle!! Lmfao!
    Clear your inbox/outbox!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga

    Clear your inbox/outbox!
    Cleared!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor

    Cleared!!
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    Pm please
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    Is RPN's havoc not already illegal. Its one of the nomenclatures on this list but i thought it was already illegal. enlighten me please
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenmi04 View Post
    Is RPN's havoc not already illegal. Its one of the nomenclatures on this list but i thought it was already illegal. enlighten me please
    Nope, not yet.
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    so apparently Antaeus is pulling the plug on ultradrol cuz of the SD ban.. really on the fence about picking some of this up before its too late
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor
    so apparently Antaeus is pulling the plug on ultradrol cuz of the SD ban.. really on the fence about picking some of this up before its too late
    Yea, it has traces of SD in it
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Yea, it has traces of SD in it
    you ever run it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor
    you ever run it?
    Negative.

    Ive used:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17

    damn that's a steal! pm please !?
    Ditto. Get paid tomorrow. Puttin in an order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    so apparently Antaeus is pulling the plug on ultradrol cuz of the SD ban.. really on the fence about picking some of this up before its too late
    Saw it for 30, earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Saw it for 30, earlier.
    that place with is selling them for $30 a pop, ya know, what the moon does around earth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by etnukekav

    that place with is selling them for $30 a pop, ya know, what the moon does around earth...
    lol yeah I saw a couple places selling it for 30.. Problem is I dropped more money on sd than I should've..kind of like I saw the ban and had a nervous twitch haha..

    Just kinda wanted a few opinions on UD..
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    lol yeah I saw a couple places selling it for 30.. Problem is I dropped more money on sd than I should've..kind of like I saw the ban and had a nervous twitch haha..

    Just kinda wanted a few opinions on UD..
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron

    Super DMZ 2.0 is Methylsten and D-zine...
    Yeah I've considered this option too, since you guys say it won't be affected by the SD ban. its got a higher dose of methylsten than UD, correct?
    Will have to look more into this
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