Fighting my genetics with T3!(myths destroyed)

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  1. AnabolicMinds Site Rep
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    Sub'd to follow along and also preach cautiousness

    I was diagnosed hypothyroid in January of '11 and then confirmed Hashimoto's in November '11 (that should've been done back in Jan, too). Anyway, I've been on T3, T4 or a combination of the two, since (currently on 25mcg T3 & 137mcg T4). I've spent a TON of time researching the compounds, their effects, etc., so if you have any questions, let me know.

    Good luck.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Im glad i dont play with that anymore. Its gotten expensive since my last bag...
    Same here, glad I'm putting my money in something way better.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Bro my source has 50mg 50 pill bottles of var for $65!!!
    Um, would the Prime Minister be willing to lend me some information?
    Quote Originally Posted by LiamTaylor View Post
    I push myself to limits everyday i train tbh, visited my mum yesterday and she said i looked a bit bigger, she doesnt know about the steroids

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    That's just unbelievable, that's the price of an 8 ball lol.
    U are paying to much for an 8 ball, I got u $70... Haha I don't actually use anymore.. 4 years
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  5. Am I the only person who hasn't tried coke?

    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    U are paying to much for an 8 ball, I got u $70... Haha I don't actually use anymore.. 4 years
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Am I the only person who hasn't tried coke?
    Haha, ive done way too many drug. If u haven't ever done it don't start.
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751
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    MidwestBeast's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Am I the only person who hasn't tried coke?
    I prefer Coke Zero.

    But no, you're not alone.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Am I the only person who hasn't tried coke?
    Its one of those ones i dont recommend sampling unless you have serious will power
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast

    I prefer Coke Zero.

    But no, you're not alone.
    Coke zero is surprisingly good, I normally only drink water but the other day I thought I'd sludge and have a coke, I grabbed a coke zero. It was awesome
    Christopher
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179

    Coke zero is surprisingly good, I normally only drink water but the other day I thought I'd sludge and have a coke, I grabbed a coke zero. It was awesome
    Redbull zero is pretty fantastic.
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  11. I don't believe it, I like sugerfree red bull but the zero can is lame and makes me think it sucjs
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  12. Rockstar zero is the best diet energy drink. I was very surprised also caffeine up the wazu.

    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    Redbull zero is pretty fantastic.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  13. I like those rockstar 2x the caffiene, they taste like if a flower were to **** in ur mouth but they are strong
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  14. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179

    U are paying to much for an 8 ball, I got u $70... Haha I don't actually use anymore.. 4 years
    Ahhh 70 bucks lol, I don't use anymore either 3 and a half years clean.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Rockstar zero is the best diet energy drink. I was very surprised also caffeine up the wazu.
    I haven't had tried any of those. I do love coke zero though.

  16. I always liked Redline Xtreme for energy drinks. Or Spike!!!

    But back to the thread topic:

    Can T3 be taken along with Clen? Or during the 2 OFF weeks during Clen cycles?
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by daniel11
    I always liked Redline Xtreme for energy drinks. Or Spike!!!

    But back to the thread topic:

    Can T3 be taken along with Clen? Or during the 2 OFF weeks during Clen cycles?
    It can. A friend knew i wanted to shred up a bit and tried to get me to run a clen/t3 stack. After research i decided not to.
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  18. I had my Thyroid removed I'm on Synthroid T4...........will taking T3 with T4 be harmful?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Mako100
    I had my Thyroid removed I'm on Synthroid T4...........will taking T3 with T4 be harmful?
    I wouldnt mess with anything after having your thyroid removed unless your dr and 29 others say its ok.
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  20. Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    I wouldnt mess with anything after having your thyroid removed unless your dr and 29 others say its ok.
    My thinking was..........I don't hae one to mess up..........T4 is my thyroid

  21. Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    It can. A friend knew i wanted to shred up a bit and tried to get me to run a clen/t3 stack. After research i decided not to.
    Can I ask why you decided not to?

    Would it be best to take it in the off weeks? Or during both on and off Clen weeks ?
    Last edited by daniel11; 06-23-2012 at 12:14 PM. Reason: typo
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by daniel11 View Post
    Can I ask why you decided not to?

    Would it be best to take it in the off weeks? Or during both on & off Clen weeks ?
    How long would the cut be?Take it through out.Sorry guys for the lack of updates,life got in the way.I may obtain a girlfriend :P

    I actually feel great after meals sill.I'm noticing I can eat more carbs aswell.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mako100 View Post
    My thinking was..........I don't hae one to mess up..........T4 is my thyroid
    I'd still recommend talking to your dr. he might only have you on t4 for a reason that he has not yet made clear to you. if you're afraid to do that, arm your self with knowledge. research the SH*T out of t-3. i googled it a few minutes ago just for giggles and my god there's a ton of information on the internet about it. In situations like your's where you've had medical procedures done or have issues in a certain area (like telling a diabetic to take extra insulin or something on a hgh cycle) it would just be reckless to give you any advice towards using certain drugs. I wouldnt want to say go for it, and have you die or end up mentally retarded or whatever the possible outcome may be.
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  24. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Sub'd to follow along and also preach cautiousness

    I was diagnosed hypothyroid in January of '11 and then confirmed Hashimoto's in November '11 (that should've been done back in Jan, too). Anyway, I've been on T3, T4 or a combination of the two, since (currently on 25mcg T3 & 137mcg T4). I've spent a TON of time researching the compounds, their effects, etc., so if you have any questions, let me know.

    Good luck.

    I had my thyroid removed and I'm on 150mcg T4....what dose of T3 do you think I should take. I was going to ramp up to 150mcg split 50, 50, 50

  25. Quote Originally Posted by daniel11

    Can I ask why you decided not to?

    Would it be best to take it in the off weeks? Or during both on & off Clen weeks ?
    Im pretty stim sensitive. Didnt like the idea of catabolism from the high doses of t3. Worried about future thyroid function. Clen from ive understood raises core body temp and i was looking to cycle in the summer . I dont deal well with heat and humidity well to begin with, but i would imagine id literally sweat to death unless i had an iv hooked up. Large compillation of multiple worries basically.

    Pyro, out of curiousity, more of a devils advocate type thing, have you noticed what the clinical doses of t3 are in your studies? Ive noticed most ramp up to 100mcg. Why would drs perscribe that high if it indeed eats muscle as bad as its been made to seem? The most clinical side effects im seeing are jitters and hair loss in children. Nothing about catsbolism until i get to forum based search results. Could the catabolic nature simply be bro science from a fat kid that thought he was jacked lost 80 lbs and said he lost his muscle?
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  26. Subbed, after months of debate I finally got my endo to add T3 to my T4 therapy. He started me at 10 mcg's a day in two doses lol, but it's a starting point. At least I finally found an MD that will listen to the voice of reason.

    Very interested in this log. Lots of good discussion already. Best of luck.

  27. Congrats on the girl. Maybe its just me but I didnt notice a slowing of the updates.

    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    How long would the cut be?Take it through out.Sorry guys for the lack of updates,life got in the way.I may obtain a girlfriend :P

    I actually feel great after meals sill.I'm noticing I can eat more carbs aswell.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  28. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    How long would the cut be?Take it through out.
    I'm at day 10 Clen today.
    I was planning on 8 weeks total: 2 ON - 2 OFF - 2 ON - 2 OFF

    I have T3 on order. I should be able to add it during 1st Off Clen period. Maybe run it the remaining 6 weeks at low dose?


    Also, would Epiandrosterone be a sufficient anabolic to take if taking T3 at a higher dose? Or would something stronger be needed?
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by daniel11 View Post
    I'm at day 10 Clen today.
    I was planning on 8 weeks total: 2 ON - 2 OFF - 2 ON - 2 OFF

    I have T3 on order. I should be able to add it during 1st Off Clen period. Maybe run it the remaining 6 weeks at low dose?


    Also, would Epiandrosterone be a sufficient anabolic to take if taking T3 at a higher dose? Or would something stronger be needed?
    Stronger.Atleast a good androgen.Yes you can run t3 at that time.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    Im pretty stim sensitive. Didnt like the idea of catabolism from the high doses of t3. Worried about future thyroid function. Clen from ive understood raises core body temp and i was looking to cycle in the summer . I dont deal well with heat and humidity well to begin with, but i would imagine id literally sweat to death unless i had an iv hooked up. Large compillation of multiple worries basically.

    Pyro, out of curiousity, more of a devils advocate type thing, have you noticed what the clinical doses of t3 are in your studies? Ive noticed most ramp up to 100mcg. Why would drs perscribe that high if it indeed eats muscle as bad as its been made to seem? The most clinical side effects im seeing are jitters and hair loss in children. Nothing about catsbolism until i get to forum based search results. Could the catabolic nature simply be bro science from a fat kid that thought he was jacked lost 80 lbs and said he lost his muscle?
    *Sigh*Most MD's aren't dietitians,nor are they geared twords saving the muscle of your everyday joe.They could care less if you look like the hulk or that guy who play's frodo(skinny as a stick) as long as your done complaining/mcgyvered together and pay them when you leave.Catabolisim is present in any calorie deficit state.You lose fat and muscle when you drop bodyfat.Hence the "cardio burns muscle" bull being pushed today*daily cardio is great if you eat for it*

    "Catabolism (Greek kata = downward + ballein = to throw) is the set of metabolic pathways that break down molecules into smaller units and release energy.[1] In catabolism, large molecules such as polysaccharides, lipids, nucleic acids and proteins are broken down into smaller units such as monosaccharides, fatty acids, nucleotides, and amino acids, respectively. As molecules such as polysaccharides, proteins, and nucleic acids are made from long chains of these small monomer units (mono = one + mer = part), the large molecules are called polymers (poly = many).

    Cells use the monomers released from breaking down polymers to either construct new polymer molecules, or degrade the monomers further to simple waste products, releasing energy. Cellular wastes include lactic acid, acetic acid, carbon dioxide, ammonia, and urea. The creation of these wastes is usually an oxidation process involving a release of chemical free energy, some of which is lost as heat, but the rest of which is used to drive the synthesis of adenosine triphosphate (ATP). This molecule acts as a way for the cell to transfer the energy released by catabolism to the energy-requiring reactions that make up anabolism. Catabolism therefore provides the chemical energy necessary for the maintenance and growth of cells. Examples of catabolic processes include glycolysis, the citric acid cycle, the breakdown of muscle protein in order to use amino acids as substrates for gluconeogenesis and breakdown of fat in adipose tissue to fatty acids."

    -quoted

    The reason we can't lose those love handles when we diet down so long is because your t3 and hormones drop when dieting for a long time.T3 has a direct effect on pulling energy out of what we eat aka your metabolism.Basicly it increases metabolic activity making your body need more calories.So if your normal t3 is 16-25 mcgs and you take 100mcgs your body will need ALOT more calories.My guess?I'm eating 3650-3700 a day and I bet there would be a 20-as much as 50% increase.t3 is no joke.That means I could drop a **** ton of bodyfat eating what I do now with 100mcgs in me.Higher doses need an anabolic because of this fact.
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