Fighting my genetics with T3!(myths destroyed)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Pyro, could you clear some PM space if possible brother?
    Sorry...I have been dealing with a ruptured bicep tendon caused by a shoulder impingement. First time I've been on here in a couple days. Space cleared brother !
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  2. I have to admit, my last t3 dose was sunday morning and I feel great now. Granted I was only on 50mcg for 10 days, t3 just felt weird. My muscle felt flat, I was hungry all the time and I couldn't stop drinking water. On days that I wasn't managing my water intake, my physique looked flat and watery.

    I might try it again on a caloric surplus, but never on a deficit with clen. Not my cup of tea.
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  3. Maybe try 25 mcg?
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  4. Too much T3 will cause lethargy from my personal observations as well as from what I've read from others' experiences

    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    I dosed 50 for a first dose night before last and yesterday I felt draggy and terribly sore and like I had no energy. Now I'm thinking that it was the t3
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Too much T3 will cause lethargy from my personal observations as well as from what I've read from others' experiences
    Plus he told me he doesn't eat enough lol
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Maybe try 25 mcg?
    I thought that there's no point to 25mcg because it's just a replacement dose.

    I've read that at 6.25-12.5mcg is where it supplements endogenous thyroid product and yields better nutrient partitioning + increased bowel movements.

    Also, I didn't like that certain nutrients (eg: carnitine, calcium) needed to refrained/dosed away from t3. There were 2 days where I continued with my lclt + fish oil in the morning, not realizing it was interfering with t3.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post

    I thought that there's no point to 25mcg because it's just a replacement dose.

    I've read that at 6.25-12.5mcg is where it supplements endogenous thyroid product and yields better nutrient partitioning + increased bowel movements.

    Also, I didn't like that certain nutrients (eg: carnitine, calcium) needed to refrained/dosed away from t3. There were 2 days where I continued with my lclt + fish oil in the morning, not realizing it was interfering with t3.
    25mcg is still a nice boost to your metabolism

  8. Great thread with great info!
    May be you can help me here.
    I'm battling CFS . Just the regular poor energy tiredness etc.
    now my TSH is medium low.
    My. Ft4 is medium.
    But for some reason ft3 just hit the bottom of the range. None of the docs are willing to do anything about ( its still in the range or very close).
    Now I was thinking to try t3 maybe, to see if anything improves. What dose should I start? And how fast will I feel the difference ?

  9. I am always hesitant to suggest anything hormonal for someone who has a medical condition.

    "Medical Advice" from us non-professionals to/for someone with an actual disorder is just not wise as it can make things worse and disables/complicates your doc's ability to help you.

    I would implore your Doc to respect you enough to actually "listen". If he/she doesn't, find a Doc who will.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    25mcg is still a nice boost to your metabolism
    Very ture..Most people have 10 to 12 mcg.


    But....
    True or maybe not. It all depends on natural thyroid output. Some people on the upper end of the normal range can have up to 25 to 30 mcg naturally. However this is highly genetic related. Some people just store more t4 and convert more than the norm to t3. However multiple blood test are needed.

    There's a reason they can't /won't test in sports organizations for t3, igf1 ,epo growth factors and growth hormone.

    Infact you could probably site inject synthol to win a bb contest. They don't even check for that but the chances of looking weird are big. Especially when site injections in the abs. Because of the bands that make your "six pack" which aren't muscle per say.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Very ture..Most people have 10 to 12 mcg.


    But....
    True or maybe not. It all depends on natural thyroid output. Some people on the upper end of the normal range can have up to 25 to 30 mcg naturally. However this is highly genetic related. Some people just store more t4 and convert more than the norm to t3. However multiple blood test are needed.

    There's a reason they can't /won't test in sports organizations for t3, igf1 ,epo growth factors and growth hormone.

    Infact you could probably site inject synthol to win a bb contest. They don't even check for that but the chances of looking weird are big. Especially when site injections in the abs. Because of the bands that make your "six pack" which aren't muscle per say.
    Multiple blood tests from different practioners? Or different blood tests taken at different times of day? Pardon me for my ignorance, but are thyroid hormones like sex hormones in that they are higher in the morning and diminish as the day goes on?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post

    Multiple blood tests from different practioners? Or different blood tests taken at different times of day? Pardon me for my ignorance, but are thyroid hormones like sex hormones in that they are higher in the morning and diminish as the day goes on?
    Thyroid hormones are much like sex hormones except with bigger dips. All of your hormonal profile will pretty much be higher in the morning(depending on your personal wake up schedule)

    you can have 25 mcg in the morning and 2 mcg in the evening. Very big dips. Highly effected by food too.

    Very weird. Big fluxuations.

    Supplementing with t3 will also lessen these dips to within 2 to 3 .

    Pretty interesting stuff!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Plus not enough food especially carbs
    Exactly. Even ECA couldn't fix it at a huge dose. It was like it ran right through me

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Too much T3 will cause lethargy from my personal observations as well as from what I've read from others' experiences
    Yup. Last comp I ran it up to 75 MCG and a really legit source. I felt grumpy and tired and my pumps sucked but I dropped several % of bf in 3.5 weeks. Only problem is I ran it right through the show. I feel like that was a mistake. My pumps suffered when I was warming up to go on stage and I looked small AF. T3 at a legit dose makes me tire easily anyway. The last 3 days at 25 I feel a muscle burn walking up one flight of stairs to my apartment. I'm thinking about lowering it a bit.
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