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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    I believe dex and novla compete for the same receptors. I think u could drop novla completely and lower ur day one cloud dose to 100. The test gel will be nice won't do much but it will keep ur spirits up while on a cut. I really don't think u need the var, I think with just 40 for 6weeks it's really not going to do much but waste money. Now I've seem people run it for 12 weeks with a lower dose and get good results. That's just my openion.
    Thanks for the advice.
    My last cycle I used forma, and I'm not very schooled on adex. I heard it can cause estro rebound. I would use it on cycle but i don't think gyno will be a problem since epi is supposed to be an AI.
    Thinking of using the Ignite2 on cycle for a mild AI.
    I'll probably end up buying erase.

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    My weight is good for my height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk
    My weight is good for my height.
    U don't wanna b a freak lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jherman08 View Post
    After reading Op's post it's more than obvious he doesn't even know what anavar is or how to find it let alone afford it
    I know exactly what anavar is. I really want to give it a shot but I wont be pinning and I dont want to be shutdown which it will. Ive run EPI in the past and didnt have any problems with it thats why I wanted to go with it instead. And I wasnt sure that the clones are the EXACT same ingredients and if they are then I guess any of them will do the trick. And I also know exactly where to find it and not at a bad price. And affording it isnt close to a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    U don't wanna b a freak lol?
    "I want them to think...He's not human" I heard a wise man say that once , proud to call him my bro too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    "I want them to think...He's not human" I heard a wise man say that once , proud to call him my bro too!
    I wonder who that guy is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmp007

    I know exactly what anavar is. I really want to give it a shot but I wont be pinning and I dont want to be shutdown which it will. Ive run EPI in the past and didnt have any problems with it thats why I wanted to go with it instead. And I wasnt sure that the clones are the EXACT same ingredients and if they are then I guess any of them will do the trick. And I also know exactly where to find it and not at a bad price. And affording it isnt close to a problem.
    LGI Epi-10, really anything LGI is more than legit bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    U don't wanna b a freak lol?
    Yeah I want to be a freak. I want to be an ant! Strong as **** w powerful fast twitch muscles and single digit fat %.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    Yeah I want to be a freak. I want to be an ant! Strong as **** w powerful fast twitch muscles and single digit fat %.
    You can get single digits soooooo easily without PH/DS AAS/gear bro hahaha, its just diet , cardio , dedication and...BALLS OF STEEL!
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    I know. I'm close already. But cycles are fun. I'm a deviant. What can I say?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    I know. I'm close already. But cycles are fun. I'm a deviant. What can I say?!
    Just do a little test and a var cycle. little test wont blow you up especially if your diet is in check. And it will keep your levels normal from the var.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmp007

    Just do a little test and a var cycle. little test wont blow you up especially if your diet is in check. And it will keep your levels normal from the var.
    I have a tainted past w needles--can't pin.
    I don't have enough var to be effective alone...i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    I have a tainted past w needles--can't pin.
    I don't have enough var to be effective alone...i think.
    Ahh I see. How much var do you have?
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    Enough for 6 weeks @ 40mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    I have a tainted past w needles--can't pin.
    I don't have enough var to be effective alone...i think.
    Good var for standalone should be around 50-100mg bro , look around and find a good source , there's some that actually have it reasonable affordable prices , just remember if you go that high on the var , use HCG , your testes will thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Good var for standalone should be around 50-100mg bro , look around and find a good source , there's some that actually have it reasonable affordable prices , just remember if you go that high on the var , use HCG , your testes will thank you.
    Can't pin. I was thinking about clomid on cycle in place of the hcg (even though they are much different) but some guy said it would inhibit my gains...
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    Would it be more beneficial to do shorter run of var @ higher dose than my plan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    Would it be more beneficial to do shorter run of var @ higher dose than my plan?
    Hm...Let me think about this...what is really your main goal? Recomp or massively CUT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Hm...Let me think about this...what is really your main goal? Recomp or massively CUT?
    Recomp...i stole this threat. All apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    Recomp...i stole this threat. All apologies.
    Its all good man. Actually I was looking into var I really want to try it. just read so many horror stories after post cycle blood work without having a test with it its made me rethink
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmp007

    Its all good man. Actually I was looking into var I really want to try it. just read so many horror stories after post cycle blood work without having a test with it its made me rethink
    I think pre & post blood work is vital as are support sups, general health sups and proper nutrition accompanied w rest.
    My blood work has been good for the most part except for the low test so I'm not concerned.
    I'm pretty in tune w my body.
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    Im still thinking about giving it a shot. Thats the reason I wanted to go back with epi cause I was nervous about the shut down of a var only cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    Recomp...i stole this threat. All apologies.
    Why not go for SD at 10mg for 6 weeks , and throw in EC + furaza at 350-400mg?? Should build good with 10mg of sd at 6 weeks , and cut out pretty good with ec and furaza bro...just keep maintenance or slightly over and throw in good cardio and plan a solid building routine and good to go...pct for that would just be clomid and not a problem i presume...(well that and the AI and natty t booster haha)
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    I already have two bottles of epi and the var. I thought SD was for mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk

    I think pre & post blood work is vital as are support sups, general health sups and proper nutrition accompanied w rest.
    My blood work has been good for the most part except for the low test so I'm not concerned.
    I'm pretty in tune w my body.
    My.pct log shows normal t after 4 weeks on ostraine.its shown to be anabolic at 3mgs and almost no supression. Could be just the mild hes looking for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    I already have two bottles of epi and the var. I thought SD was for mass.
    Well a recomp involves BUILDING mass , and BURNING fat...hence recomp hehe...Epi can help those porpoises too , its all about diet , training and dosage bro ;p , but if you wanna use the var at a higher dosage for the beginning of the cycle as a kickstart it would be nice , you don't wanna have high doses of var overlapping with high doses of epi (just in case you get hard epi sides and show some sides on high var, unusual this last one , but not unheard of)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk
    I already have two bottles of epi and the var. I thought SD was for mass.
    Sd is multi.purpose .potent so it can build mass while cutting but Ive read some logs of a 8 % bf loss with clen plus sd. Its better for bulk though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk
    Would it be more beneficial to do shorter run of var @ higher dose than my plan?
    6 weeks at 60mg would probly take care of u.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    6 weeks at 60mg would probly take care of u.
    He doesn't have enough ;p but yeah I agree with yah , 50-100mg of var is solid for a recomp in 6-8 weeks protocols :3!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    He doesn't have enough ;p but yeah I agree with yah , 50-100mg of var is solid for a recomp in 6-8 weeks protocols :3!
    Yeah I know he just need a good source, I used to think it was hella expensive but with most place it is. U just gotta know where to look.
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    epi FTW , some guys claim is even better than winny
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    Yeah. It's the trusted source thing...so kick start 80mg/4 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk
    Yeah. It's the trusted source thing...so kick start 80mg/4 weeks?
    Yeah if u can't get more then that's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle
    epi FTW , some guys claim is even better than winny
    Fur sure, that's cuz it is better than winny.
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    LOL yeah!!!!, its almost perfect, by the way, as a standalone at 50 mgs straight is a win-win
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle
    LOL yeah!!!!, its almost perfect, by the way, as a standalone at 50 mgs straight is a win-win
    Hehe 50mgs and higher.
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    I like your style brotha LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle
    I like your style brotha LOL
    60mg a day keeps the doctor away hahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    60mg a day keeps the doctor away hahaha.
    Lol...and the limp d*ck in your way!

    hahahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Lol...and the limp d*ck in your way!

    hahahahaha
    Lol its not that limp, I just have no drive. F*ck it I'm gettin yoked bro haha.
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