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    I've given up on finding real gear to stack with my already acquired vials of test cyp...... looking for advice on pro-hormones and/or accessible designer steroids to stack ..... I have my AI, SERM, and hcg covered...... fyi I am a weight lifter / body builder / endurance athlete

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    I would easily go with beastdrol for 3-4 weeks

    I love sd kick started to test
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    SD would make a beastly kickstart and having the test will let you hold, solidify, and add to the explosive gains. How long were you planning on running the cyp for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    SD would make a beastly kickstart and having the test will let you hold, solidify, and add to the explosive gains. How long were you planning on running the cyp for?

    ManBeast
    I have two 2000mg/10ml vials...... want to make the most of it,,,, open for suggestions
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    So we're looking at 10 weeks of 400mg/week. Which creates a 12 week cycle. You could kickstart with 4 of helladrol, and finish with 4 of helladrol. I'd lean against starting with superdrol if you want to kick and finish with an oral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    So we're looking at 10 weeks of 400mg/week. Which creates a 12 week cycle. You could kickstart with 4 of helladrol, and finish with 4 of helladrol. I'd lean against starting with superdrol if you want to kick and finish with an oral.

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    Would it break down like this?
    Week one : helladrol
    Weeks 2-4: helladrol + 400mg test
    Week 5-8: 400 mg
    Week 9-10: helladrol + 400mg
    Week 11-12: helladrol
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    I'd run it more like
    1-10 test cyp 400mg/week (2x200mg injects)
    1-4: helladrol
    9-12 helladrol
    13 - start pct.

    Kinda cool to think you'll get two hella "cycles" on this run eh? Make sure to support your liver/lipids/bp etc.

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    Ordered some helladrol just now!!
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    I'd run it more like
    1-10 test cyp 400mg/week (2x200mg injects)
    1-4: helladrol
    9-12 helladrol
    13 - start pct.

    Kinda cool to think you'll get two hella "cycles" on this run eh? Make sure to support your liver/lipids/bp etc.

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    How much helladrol????
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    I'd say 75mg/ed throughout for both sets. Its a kickstart/finisher, not the base of the cycle.

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    Out of curiosity, which would you prefer halotest which is supposedly the same formula as the original halodrol 50

    http://www.google.com/m/products/cat...gQ8wIwAA#prd:o

    Or heeladrol

    https://www.************/Products/7/Helladrol/

    Is there a difference?
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    halotest is much more mild than helladrol, I don't see much of a point to using halotest for your goals.

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    Thanks,,, I already ordered the helladrol so I was hoping you'd say that
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    Manbeast not to disagree with you cause you are a very smart dude but i would run helladrol for 6 weeks. For most people helladrol/hdrol don't kick I'n till around week 3 so stoping it at week 4 seems like a waste. It really wouldn't help kickstart a test cycle but it would be a nice addition towards the end to harden up those gains since test c aromatizes easily. Just my opinion.
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    sh*t i need to get on dat der helladrol train

    i have still yet to try halodrol for some reason
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    I would run it like this.

    Test c week 1-10 200mg pin twice a week
    Helladrol week 6-12 75/75/75/75/100/100
    Starting week 13 pct....etc...
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    Yeah, but he's looking for a kick and finish to an ester'd cycle, 4 weeks at each end (with 4 in between) is his safest route unless he wants to pick up some katana for the last 4 as well.

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    ^^^it wouldn't give it a kick and finish since helladrol kick I'n time is known to kick I'n around 3 weeks. But i agree with kantadrol (forgot how to spell it) 350mg plus for 6 weeks would be a nice finish.
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    I'm liking the debate,,, disagreement is key to coming up with the best possible plan ..... lol,, they teach us that at work when designing a new program.....I'm up for anything, and am willing to buy anything otc .... I already have the two vials of test cyp,, plenty of Arimidex, clomid and hcg, ,, plus a bottle of competitive edge labs cycle assist and P.C.T. assist.... this is pretty cool having all these experienced folks willing to help a newbie like myself,,, will definitely keep me from making the mistakes I read other people have made ... I am wholly appreciative!!!
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    Well, like danny brought up, if you want to make this pretty f*ckin killer you'll need to get 2 bottles of katanadrol along with 1 of helladrol, run the hella for the first 6 weeks at 50/75/75/75/100/100 (bumping down to 75 if your body isn't happy at 100), and the katana at 300/350 a week for the last 6 weeks. should be able to recomp/lean bulk quite nicely.

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    Haha... consider it done!!! Will probably start the cycle first of march,,, have to wait for everything to get here, then I have a couple doc visits I want to get out of the way first,,, how would these overlap with my test to all bridge together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Well, like danny brought up, if you want to make this pretty f*ckin killer you'll need to get 2 bottles of katanadrol along with 1 of helladrol, run the hella for the first 6 weeks at 50/75/75/75/100/100 (bumping down to 75 if your body isn't happy at 100), and the katana at 300/350 a week for the last 6 weeks. should be able to recomp/lean bulk quite nicely.

    ManBeast
    ^^^^^^ now manbeast is thinking what I'm thinking. Lol. Op, do the cycle mention above and let us know how it goes. Wish i had money for a couple of the katanadrol. Its going to be a killer safe cycle.
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    Something like this
    3-13 test cyp 400mg/week (2x200mg injects)
    1-6: helladrol
    8-14 katanadrol
    15 - start pct

    Maybe an adex. 5mg eod throughout?
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    1-10 pin the test 2x a week evenly
    1-6 helladroll 50/75/75/75/100/100 (if your body likes 100)
    7-12 Katanadrol at 300/350mg a day
    week 13 start pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    1-10 pin the test 2x a week evenly
    1-6 helladroll 50/75/75/75/100/100 (if your body likes 100)
    7-12 Katanadrol at 300/350mg a day
    week 13 start pct.

    ManBeast
    Thnx
    What about adex .5mg eod throughout?
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    I'd start lower at .25mg eod and up it if you start noticing estrogen sides (low libido/bloating).

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    Fine tuning my plan

    Front load my supps for two weeks prior,, then continue them throughout and two weeks minimum after

    Daily supps:
    competitive edge labs cycle assist 4 pills daily
    Twin lab daily one
    Twinlab b-100 2 pills two times a day .... 4 pills total
    Pantothenic acid 500mg a day
    Twin lab liquid cod liver oil. 1 tablespoon a day
    Mixed tocopherol vitamin e 500iu a day
    Vitamin d 5,000 iu eod
    Lecithin 1/4 cup a day
    Ground flax 1/4 cup a day
    Grape seed extract 400 mg a day
    Hawthorn liquid extract 1 ml a day
    Milk thistle liquid extract 1ml a day
    CoQ10 liquid 1ml a day
    Arginine 20g a day
    Ornithine 10g a day
    Carnitine 5g a day
    Glutamine 5g a day
    ALCAR 5g a day
    Lysine 500mg a day
    Psyllium husks 2 tablespoons a day
    DMAE liquid 1ml a day
    Primatene tablets 2 a day
    Asprin 1 a day

    Minimum 300g protein a day
    3000-4000 calories a day
    No limit on healthy carbs and healthy fats as long as I get my protein in
    2 galllons of water daily
    I know this sounds like a lot,,, but am doing this already for the most part

    12 week cycle
    1-10 Test cyp 200mg both sun and Wed for 10 weeks
    1-12 Hcg 250 I.u. tue and fri
    1-12 Adex .25mg eod
    1-12 B12 injections 1000mcg twice weekly
    1-6 Helladrol up to 100mg a day first six weeks
    7-12 katanadrol 350mg a day last six weeks
    Followed by a hcg / clomid / adex pct
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    Fyi this will be my 2nd cycle,,, my first was an 8 week test only cycle of 200/300/400/400/400/400/300/200
    So I definitely have high expectations
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    A little revision based on what I have available .... I have a ton of androgel stocked up ... did the math, based on 10% absorption of 1% androgel, I'll get 15mg a day of test for every 12 pumps .... I'll do 6 pumps twice daily to get maximum absorption,,,, all at once it cakes and doesn't absorb.... that'll give me 105mg a week on top of the 400 of test cyp.... I'll start it a week ahead of everything else and go with 6 pumps a day as a cruise dose until I run out .... this'll save my prescribed test cyp for my next cycle in the fall..... gonna cycle 3 months on 3 months off, 3 months on, 3 months off for as long as I have the juice to do it with.....

    1-10(maybe all 12 if i have enough)Test cyp 200mg twice weekly
    1-6 helladroll 50/75/75/75/100/100
    7-12 Katanadrol at 300/350mg a day
    week 13 start pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    I would easily go with beastdrol for 3-4 weeks

    I love sd kick started to test
    Mate I've just started test and tren you reckon I could use sd matrix to kick it into gear?
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    Have everything worked out except my pct.. have adex and hcg already,, how much clomid should I buy?
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    need to know the doses/duration you'll be running it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    need to know the doses/duration you'll be running it.

    ManBeast
    I'm taking 3 months off after a 12 week cycle,,, to be honest,, not exactly how long and what dosage will be best for a 12 week 400-500mg a week test + helladrol/katanadrol cycle .... this is the last bit of fine tuning I need to research on before starting cycle on March 1st
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    I'd say a 6 week pct at:
    150/100/100/100/50/50 should be good.

    That will take 3,850mg of clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    I'd say a 6 week pct at:
    150/100/100/100/50/50 should be good.

    That will take 3,850mg of clomid.

    ManBeast
    I'll order 5000 mg just to be safe
    Thanks
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    welcome

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    $22 for 5000mg.... not bad at all.... considering how much everything else was,,, buying clomid is going to be rather painless LOL
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    I know I'm loved!!!! My girlfriend said she'd pay for the helladrol and katanadrol for Valentine's day!!! HAHAHA I promised her I'd turn into The Rock or VanDiesel by the end of the cycle!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco
    I know I'm loved!!!! My girlfriend said she'd pay for the helladrol and katanadrol for Valentine's day!!! HAHAHA I promised her I'd turn into The Rock or VanDiesel by the end of the cycle!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
    I thought i was the only guy. My girlfriend is always like i don't want u taking steroids...2 days later..."what do you want for vday?" ....i'll be like a few forged sd extreme.....4 days later, there's 5 bottles already ordered and she shows me the confirmation number lol
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    Call me crazy,, but I managed to get hold of a 3rd vial of 200/ml 10ml test cyp... wondering about tricking out this cycle a bit. Turn it into an 18 week cycle
    Maybe something like this :
    1-6 test/helladrol
    6-12 test/katanadrol
    13-18 test/tren
    If I'm out of my mind just say so
  

  
 

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