Thats it just wait for a little while. It takes time and effort. U will get there in the end. Train hard. Eat good and u will be fine

His legs are massive.. But hes got tittiesOriginally Posted by evandem27
Follow my TREN log
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Try to hold out a lil longer manOriginally Posted by jonesBones40
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He had gyno by 16, so probably 14 or 15.Originally Posted by Cheif
Lol yeah I predict gyno surgeries in his future. Funny how when you add a bunch of test into a system that's already producing a ton of it that it ends up aromatizing... Someone needs to teach the kid about AIs and (I'm guessing) prolactin inhibitors.Originally Posted by machorox123
Lol true, but how many of these kids are actually going to wait that long?
None.
And hdrol, is below mild IMO.
so its not like he'll **** his life up forever. Give me a break bro hah
I have friends that juiced throughout highschool, and have grown since. ****, my friend Leo has been juicing since he was 15 like dumba** and he's damn near 7 foot tall.
All of this "your liver will explode", "you wont grow anymore", is mostly over speculation.
Sure there is science behind it all, but it would take an immense amount of steroids to really do this type of **** to you.
I am not condoning the use of superdrol, hence why i said I wouldn't recommend it.
He is going to take the **** if he wants to regardless of what people think.
May as well condone something that wont **** him up.
All in all, if he can wait, then wait. If not, then take something mild/that wont f*ck you up.
Most of the concern we express is about the effects on the endogenous test levels, rather than other potential sides. It's irresponsible to say that because a few guys you know have taken steroids and not NOTICED sides like stunted growth does not mean they didn't do any damage. Who knows what his test levels will be like if he comes off as opposed to where they could have been, or what his lipid profile looks like?Originally Posted by Cheif
There is a possibility that by messing with your test levels that you can end up permanently doing damage. With most side effects, they are improbable until they happen to you. At that point, it doesn't really matter how improbable it was - it happened.
How many drugs have gotten all the way through the FDA only to be removed from the market because of some major harm that they have caused?
I'll get off my soapbox now, but I still think that we have a responsibility to give the best advice we can, and try to spend a lot longer convincing kids to wait than to tell them that mild steroids can't hurt them.
Thank you for your mature response buddy.
Yes I understand what you are saying completely.
I am not pulling any of this out of my ass though, no lie.
My friend just had a kid, when he cycled at 16.
He hasn't worked out in years, and is still in good shape.
Leo hasn't stunted his growth, and has a daughter.
I am just saying, some people freak out to much.
I have plenty of living proof around me to see this is true.
Ofcourse it is not a good idea, I will give you that. But it wont ruin a kids test levels for life to run hdrol.
and like I said, I don't condone the use of them until you really know what you are doing, and are at the right age.
But if he were to cycle and say **** it to everyones advice, he will atleast leave here knowing that harsher compounds will **** him up.
I completely understand what point you are getting to though.
Don't tell someone underage that cycling is okay, got it.
I was leaning more towards "if you were to run something anyways, go with something that wont ruin your life".
not "hell yeah, cycle this ****"
If you catch my drift.
You can have your levels pretty low and still be fertile
You can be on cycle and technically fully suppressed and still have a kid, people on TRT have kids as well (although somtimes this requires a little magic with clomid/hcg I believe).
ManBeast
-Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
-Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
*I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
True, but no matter what age taking steroids is going to affect your natural test production.
If you can still have kids, then your test levels aren't complete crap.
That is one of the biggest scares among people when using DS/AAS/PH. Infertility.
Something that would take alot of steroid abuse to achieve.
You can always go on TRT if your test levels are screwed over, you cannot replace something like sperm cells.
All of this is besides the point though.
Ultimately, this can all be avoided IF he waits.
IF he doesnt wait, then he shouldn't go with anything considered "harsh".
Good point, but once your sexual reproductive organs are f*cked, they are almost always f*cked for good.
This is something I want the kid to avoid, if he decides to cycle and disregard what people say.
Hence, why I recommended hdrol above anything else IF he were to cycle.
Why does nobody mention Alex Cosentini that kid went from skin and bones 150 to 275 in two years
I don't pay attention to stuff like that, I have a hard enough time trying to save people who come here with stupid ideas...
ManBeast
-Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
-Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
*I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
My buddy has been taking test for the past 7 weeks, started taking deca first for like 4-5 weeks (he's 20) as much as I hate that he has passed me in some weights, I still hold back on joining him. I've been lifting for about 5 years. Diet is decent but not the best so I chose to hold back till I understand everything about AAS's and get a proper diet in+ wait a few years. I'm 178 pounds with a 45" chest with 16.4 arms. I'm 5"11.
Squat about 340 for 4
Dead lift 375 for 2
Bench 110 db for 5
Hoping by the time I start using I'll be about 195 and real lean. And if I still want to take that rout I will be willing/ understand that I could end up on trt later down the road and that don't bother me.
Been researching for about 2 years jut reading forums. So just know what ya getting into.
Props to ya. Keep on the straight n narrow long as you can. Who knos once you get bit older you may reevaluate n decide you Dont need um at all. 190 n lean is a nice size n good look.Originally Posted by thyrod
^^^ good bit of advice 190 is a nice size just up. You food intake. And normaly in time your metabolism will slow down any way. So u will find it easyer to put wait on.
Well to be honest I like the hgh gut. Ha, but I'm looking to be about 220 at the age of 30... Be all that I can be^^