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    Exclamation AndroMass v3 is here -- Muscle, Strength & Power -- Gain 23lbs in 8 weeks







    AM members,


    The 3rd generation of AndroMass is here -- AndroMass v3

    Increasing muscle mass is nearly impossible without sufficient androgen levels. (1-8) AndroMass v3 delivers the strongest legal androgens found in the human body -- which pushes blood levels past the “androgen threshold” for new muscle growth and strength. (8-20)

    Our first AndroMass v3 tester, Kalen D, gained 23lbs of lean mass in only 8 weeks -- with nearly zero side-effects. See the interview here -




    Download the full case report here.







    How is AndroMass so effective?
    • Highly Dosed - Contains the highest dose of androgens found in any natural androgen product
    • Highly Anabolic - Super DHEA is 15x more effective than regular DHEA for building muscle (12-21)
    • Highly Absorbable - Bypasses the liver and increases blood androgen levels for nearly 24hrs

    What are the active ingredients?


    The androgens in AndroMass include -

    Super-4-DHEA
    - Easily converts to 4-androstenediol and androstenedione at high levels. (11-14) These anabolic hormones have moderate estrogenic activity, supporting dramatic size gains in dense lean muscle. (21,22)

    Super-Ra-DHEA & Super-Rb-DHEA - These natural saturated androgens easily convert to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which enhances strength and aggression while blocking the development of estrogenic side-effects, such as gynecomastia (gyno). (11,24,25)
    Together, these androgens mimic the power of true injectable testosterone -- with a bioequivalence of 400mg/week injectable testosterone enanthate (2700ng/dL*) -- so you can make serious gains without breaking the law. (11-23)

    *From a baseline of 500ng/dl total androgen activity level.


    AndroMass = More Permanent Gains

    Results from AndroMass are generally higher quality compared to methylated oral steroids -- making the gains easier to maintain, and longer lasting.

    Methylated compounds such as superdrol, epistane, halodrol, dimethazine, etc., cause a rapid uptake of ionic fluid in the first 3-5 days leading to the rapid onset of muscular pumps, strength and weight gain. However, this fluid retention is rapidly lost after the cycle and gains are difficult to keep. (21)

    The best results from AndroMass are often seen after 3-4 weeks when the development of new myoblasts (muscle fibers) begin to take shape. (26-31) The development of muscle fibers and increased number of nuclei is a long-term benefit that is more easily maintained for many months or years. (26,27) Users of AndroMass report nearly 75% retention of gains, even 8 weeks after discontinuing their cycle. (43)








    The results from AndroMass are dramatic and noticeable when complemented with heavy lifting and a high protein diet.

    AndroMass will produce noticeable effects quickly.

    Effects after 1-2 weeks –
    • More physical power
    • Increased self-confidence
    • Enhanced muscle fullness & tightness
    ... And then after 3-4 weeks –
    • 8-12lb body weight increase
    • Increased muscle girth & size
    • 20-30% increase in strength

    AndroMass = Less Side-Effects


    AndroMass was painstakingly optimized to bring maximum results with minimal side-effects -- it’s unlike anything on the market.

    Side-effects from AndroMass are mild, temporary, and usually completely unnoticed by users. Some men may even notice improved general health, as low androgen (testosterone) levels can lead to diabetes, obesity, heart disease, and depression. (32-34)








    AndroMass = Easy Recovery

    A rapid and complete recovery of natural testosterone production, ensures the maximum gain retention.

    Users of methylated orals and injectable steroids often struggle from a prolonged recovery, due to the highly suppressive nature of these types of steroids. (35-36) Recovery from these compounds can take months, or even years. (35-38) This makes it extremely difficult to maintain gains, sex-life, and mental health.

    AndroMass has one MAJOR advantage over the alternative -

    24hr Release - Mimics the body’s natural rhythm
    (LH & FSH secretion)
    The single daily dose of AndroMass rises and falls within a 24 hour period. This ensures levels fall back to “pre-dose” levels every 24 hours, allowing natural testosterone production to be stimulated. This prevents testicular shrinkage, shutdown and prolonged recovery. (39,40)
    Since AndroMass contains only androgens naturally produced by the body, they are easily metabolized and cleared from the body -- This allows users of AndroMass to fully recover in 30 days or less.



    AndroMass = Superior Delivery

    AndroMass utilizes the new Liqua-Vade 24HR Delivery technology -
    • Highly Bioavailable- Fat soluble androgens absorb up to 98% and bypass the liver
    • Highly Reliable - Maximum absorption is not dependant on food intake
    • Highly Convenient - Only ONE daily dose required for 24hr timed release of androgens
    We accomplished ultra-high bioavailability by utilizing fat soluble “fatty ester” hormones which are absorbed by the “fat uptake” (lymphatic) system, seen here -










    AndroMass = Cost Effective

    When priced against the nearest competition, AndroMass is at least 200-1000% more cost effective. (41)

    In fact, we encourage you to compare for yourself. Plus, consider the things you DON’T need with AndroMass -
    • Liver, kidney, or blood pressure support
    • Little blue pills to keep "things working"
    • Harsh "research grade" PCT drugs
    • Needles & sterilization

    Primordial Performance = The #1 Source for Androgens


    Primordial Performance is the industry leader in natural androgen supplements for men. Since 2006 our mission has been clear -- maximize the male hormone environment without comprimising health. Our products are backed by thousands of positive reviews, success stories, and detailed case reports.

    We take responsibility for our customers and take pride in the following -
    • Most Trusted - Established industry leader since 2006 with an “A” reliability rating by the BBB
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    • Industry Innovator - Nearly 100% of profits are reinvested into future R&D

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    It can be difficult or nearly impossible to make progress to your physique with low androgen levels. If you are tired of being stuck in a plateau, take action now -- and give your body what it needs to take your progress to the next level.

    Remember, AndroMass gives you -
    • Proven Safety - Extensive in-house blood data confirms exceptional safety profile (42)
    • Proven Effectiveness - Average 13lb lean mass, and 25% strength increase in only 8 weeks (43)
    • Proven Natural & Legal - Non-toxic naturally occurring androgens are found in the food supply (44,45)
    If quality, safety, and effectiveness are important to you -- AndroMass is your #1 choice.




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    41. Based on comparison to "natural androgen" based supplements, including 4-DHEA, 1-DHEA, androsterone, and epiandrosterone products.

    42. Based on in-house blood data and case studies. Download white papers here - AndroMass

    43. Based on in-house case studies. See "Research" tab here - AndroMass

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    looking forward to see this logged also what's the deal on the fb page !? better than black friday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    fb1211 25% off.
    What does that bring it down too??
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    What does that bring it down too??
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    AM guys, please check-out our Facebook Page. We have a coupon code listed right now for a 25% saving. Primordial likes to support it's loyal members. This means if you're a Facebook Page member, a member of our forums, or you're on our mailing list, you will get news about our discounts first (OR in some cases, you'll be the only ones to get the news!!) As you can see, we have no thread up about our Facebook deal.
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    im waiting for a 50% off deal so i can give that androhard a try.
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    X2. atleast 50
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    im waiting for a 50% off deal so i can give that androhard a try.
    Make sure you're a part of the mailing list and facebook group. I also highly doubt any codes will be released for 50% off.
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    So the "Muscle and Power" would require 2 bottles of AM plus TRS.
    The "Muscle and Power + More Muscle" would require 2 bottles of AM, 1 bottle of AB, and TRS.

    Depending on which you chose you're looking at spending anywhere from $545.00 - $765.00 total.... are you guys suuuureee there will be no 50% coupon? What about a 40%? Maybe???

    *edit* - not complaining...totally appreciate the quality, testing, research, etc. that goes into your products... well worth it... just wondering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcinator View Post
    So the "Muscle and Power" would require 2 bottles of AM plus TRS.
    The "Muscle and Power + More Muscle" would require 2 bottles of AM, 1 bottle of AB, and TRS.

    Depending on which you chose you're looking at spending anywhere from $545.00 - $765.00 total.... are you guys suuuureee there will be no 50% coupon? What about a 40%? Maybe???

    *edit* - not complaining...totally appreciate the quality, testing, research, etc. that goes into your products... well worth it... just wondering
    50 no, reps can help out though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
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    50% is great. I know if i saw a 50% one I'd be bridging my mdrol/ah cycle into some AM lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    50% is great. I know if i saw a 50% one I'd be bridging my mdrol/ah cycle into some AM lol.
    Guys, this really isn't going to happen. If you need some help with purchasing a cycle, give one of us a PM and we can help you out, but I can assure you we can not do 50%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Guys, this really isn't going to happen. If you need some help with purchasing a cycle, give one of us a PM and we can help you out, but I can assure you we can not do 50%.
    Figured as much. But one can always dream. Hehe.

    I'll stick to my current stash of PH before diving in to these though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Figured as much. But one can always dream. Hehe.

    I'll stick to my current stash of PH before diving in to these though.
    We will always try to help people out. I want people to experience these products first hand and become a believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Bulk looks very interesting.
    Interesting -- that is a good word for BULK.

    highly anabolic , yet still packs a moderate androgenic punch fro the 4diol--dione to give strength and sex drive.

    Bulk + Hard is what I would like to to have a tester experiment with next!

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    Would 6 bulks + 3 mass daily for 8 weeks be better than 6mass and 3 bulk? As far as mass gaining
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcinator View Post
    Would 6 bulks + 3 mass daily for 8 weeks be better than 6mass and 3 bulk? As far as mass gaining
    If going for just an all-out bulk, then the 6AB/3AM would probably be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    If going for just an all-out bulk, then the 6AB/3AM would probably be better.
    Yeah, this is how I would approach it. I think Eric recommends the flipped scenario, but for an all out bulk I would choose this route.
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    Interesting -- that is a good word for BULK.

    highly anabolic , yet still packs a moderate androgenic punch fro the 4diol--dione to give strength and sex drive.

    Bulk + Hard is what I would like to to have a tester experiment with next!

    -Matt
    Right on. I'll eventually make my way around to it.
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    This new formulation really looks like it has potential. AndroHard is still what I will be trying first but man this looks appealing. I am sure the price will come down some in the future guys and even if you got 33% off, when you look at what goes into a well planned oral cycle with a test base like Transderm, you really aren't spending that much more for 4 weeks. I know this, I have done the math on it many times and all the support stuff, oral of choice (sometimes two if you bridge), test base of say transderm, you are paying the same amount AND you can't do that for 8 weeks like you can AM or AH. PP gets a thumbs up, you guys listened and made the right improvements.
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    Sounds awesome. I'm really wanting to go with Drive and the new AndroLean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive
    Sounds awesome. I'm really wanting to go with Drive and the new AndroLean.
    i got these sexy products coming my way. won't run them until right before summer though
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    The PP site looks as though it's implying you don't need a pct? Is this true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ngen52
    The PP site looks as though it's implying you don't need a pct? Is this true?
    No, I think they recommend there own in house PCT.
    I would say on a 4 week cycle you could get away with maybe a good OTC test boost stack, but I never tried that and that's speaking from me reading a few logs...

    Using their PCT stack would probably be the most wise choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ngen52 View Post
    The PP site looks as though it's implying you don't need a pct? Is this true?
    No we do recommend a PCT and our TRS for this purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    No we do recommend a PCT and our TRS for this purpose. http://www.primordialperformance.com...(topical).html


    A lot of people rant and rave about this product as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Interesting -- that is a good word for BULK.

    highly anabolic , yet still packs a moderate androgenic punch fro the 4diol--dione to give strength and sex drive.

    Bulk + Hard is what I would like to to have a tester experiment with next!

    -Matt
    Matt could you elaborate on the benefits that Bulk + Hard would provide for a person. I have 2 Bulks coming in January and I am curious, why you would like to see a person run Bulk and Hard together. I have not seen this stack mentioned that much at all. Thank you for your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo1999 View Post
    Matt could you elaborate on the benefits that Bulk + Hard would provide for a person. I have 2 Bulks coming in January and I am curious, why you would like to see a person run Bulk and Hard together. I have not seen this stack mentioned that much at all. Thank you for your time.
    I would like to see a Bulk/Hard stack simply due to the super high ANABOLIC profile that AndroBulk has combined with the super high ANDROGENIC profile the Androhard has -- This would appear to be a muscle building, strength inducing power-house!

    However -- for the person who chose AndroBulk for "less side effects" (which testers reported none) then adding AndroHard would contradict that aspect.

    -Matt
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    I would like to see a Bulk/Hard stack simply due to the super high ANABOLIC profile that AndroBulk has combined with the super high ANDROGENIC profile the Androhard has -- This would appear to be a muscle building, strength inducing power-house!

    However -- for the person who chose AndroBulk for "less side effects" (which testers reported none) then adding AndroHard would contradict that aspect.

    -Matt
    I'll tell em to skip androhard and run with that bulk and mass, if they are lowering the b/f watching cals then hard could be an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I'll tell em to skip androhard and run with that bulk and mass, if they are lowering the b/f watching cals then hard could be an option.
    AB/AH would make for a nice mass and strength cycle, though. It also wouldn't be as wet of a cycle due to the DHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    AB/AH would make for a nice mass and strength cycle, though. It also wouldn't be as wet of a cycle due to the DHT.
    Wouldn't this be comparable to high dose AM?
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    Is there a product label or anything to tell tell how much of the active ingredients there are in x amount of caps/cap?

    I see they recommend 8 weeks now too. the 1 daily dose looks convient too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Is there a product label or anything to tell tell how much of the active ingredients there are in x amount of caps/cap?

    I see they recommend 8 weeks now too. the 1 daily dose looks convient too.
    Yes, it is on the PP website and surely on NP website now too or check Orbit.
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