Short cycles, some thoughts

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Fort Dodge EQ has undecylenate ester. This is not ideal for a short cycle.
    As it turns out, there's only ~6.5wks worth is available to me. Will this be a waste of time? Should I just wait until more is available? Would be stacked w/ test prop most likely. Is a 6wk test enanthate / eq cycle worth doing?

    Edit: Also, any idea about British Dragon eq?
    Last edited by blown_stang; 11-10-2004 at 01:11 AM.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    Will this be a waste of time? Should I just wait until more is available? Would be stacked w/ test prop most likely. Is a 6wk test enanthate / eq cycle worth doing?
    Edit: Also, any idea about British Dragon eq?
    You have to decide if it is worth your time, money, and body. This entire thread is about short cycles and using the drugs that will have the best advantage over the course of a short period of time. So do you think test enanthate is a good idea?

    British Dragon products are good.
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  3. Pretty sweet there jminis. Long cycles definately aren't for everyone and in particular I could see them being an issue with the older guys.

    To avoid the mid cycle stall, I am running my current cycle in two phases... I put on almost 40lbs in the first five weeks with about 15lbs fat gain, and switched gears when the tren e fully kicked in. Now at just over 7 weeks in I've shed the 15lbs of fat that I picked up while on dbol, and I have another 4 weeks or so of tren to cut on before I have to normalize my diet in preparation for pct. Rock hard and vascular 265 here I come

    I can't stress the important of swale's hcg protocol enough btw, the boys are running at full size at this point. We'll see how the recovery is - I've got my fingers crossed.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by exnihilo
    Pretty sweet there jminis. Long cycles definately aren't for everyone and in particular I could see them being an issue with the older guys.

    To avoid the mid cycle stall, I am running my current cycle in two phases... I put on almost 40lbs in the first five weeks with about 15lbs fat gain, and switched gears when the tren e fully kicked in. Now at just over 7 weeks in I've shed the 15lbs of fat that I picked up while on dbol, and I have another 4 weeks or so of tren to cut on before I have to normalize my diet in preparation for pct. Rock hard and vascular 265 here I come

    I can't stress the important of swale's hcg protocol enough btw, the boys are running at full size at this point. We'll see how the recovery is - I've got my fingers crossed.
    Damn bro that's a lot of weight to put on. Good luck with the rest of your cycle and keep us informed on how everything goes. And yes swales protocol for longer cycles is important and keep the nutz happy.

  5. Generally speaking, how long of a cycle would warrant the use of HCG? In almost all of the "sample cycles" I see clomid + nolva only. But some articles I read say that HCG is a "necessary part of any cycle".
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    Generally speaking, how long of a cycle would warrant the use of HCG? In almost all of the "sample cycles" I see clomid + nolva only. But some articles I read say that HCG is a "necessary part of any cycle".
    Not every cycle. You could and it def wouldn't hurt but anything under 6 weeks I think your fine without it. Even 8 I think would be cool but you'd be pushin it and it would depend on what your running. Things like deca, tren, m1t, ect... in a 8 weeker and I would run HCG. It's cheap and makes recovery easier.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    Not every cycle. You could and it def wouldn't hurt but anything under 6 weeks I think your fine without it. Even 8 I think would be cool but you'd be pushin it and it would depend on what your running. Things like deca, tren, m1t, ect... in a 8 weeker and I would run HCG. It's cheap and makes recovery easier.
    I see. This would be test+eq for approx. 8wks, with dbol for the first 3-4wks. We'll look at HCG.

  8. Has anyone else become a follower?

    N4cer...results?

  9. i'm intend to try it for myself this summer, testsusp100mg for 40 days along with superdrol at 20mg.

  10. Gained 10, kept 8. That was with the bold prop making me too sick to eat properly. Already did my PCT, and started back up.
    Suspension + prop/tren + dbol + 4OHT Cyp (AI properties)
    transitioning to
    NPP + Winny or Oral Turinabol

  11. Quote Originally Posted by N4cer
    Gained 10, kept 8. That was with the bold prop making me too sick to eat properly.
    It is unfortunate that bold prop seems to have such nasty effects. It it such a tempting drug.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by size
    It is unfortunate that bold prop seems to have such nasty effects. It it such a tempting drug.
    don't mean to butt into ya'lls conversation, but bold prop didn't do any damage to me. no bad side effects. guess it depends on the person.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    don't mean to butt into ya'lls conversation, but bold prop didn't do any damage to me. no bad side effects. guess it depends on the person.
    I think the big issue was pain at the injection site. Beelze did you not experience any? I know most said the pain was ridiculous

  14. nah, i was doing 86mg ed injects and after a couple days, there was no pain anymore. ran it for a little over 9 weeks. it was mixed with testprop100 and trenace50, not sure if that had an effect on it or not.

  15. Lucky dog. Gave me test flu EVERY time for 2 weeks.

  16. N4cer,
    YGPM bro

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    nah, i was doing 86mg ed injects and after a couple days, there was no pain anymore. ran it for a little over 9 weeks. it was mixed with testprop100 and trenace50, not sure if that had an effect on it or not.
    You are lucky most haven't had success with it. I know a few UG's stopped carrying it because no one could stand the ****. Either way your a lucky SOB. take care J

  18. Bold prop seems to be disliked by most, but what about bold acetate? Anyone tried it in short cycles?

  19. Jminis I would like ur opinion on this...what do u think about a 5-6 weeker using transdermal test base and tren base...not quite sure yet on the dosages but this sounds interesting and I like this idea better than longer cycles.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Manu20
    what do u think about a 5-6 weeker using transdermal test base and tren base...not quite sure yet on the dosages.
    This combo will work well. I would aim for 75-100mg of test daily and 35-60mg tren daily.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    OK, I'm having trouble telling if this is base, prop, etc. It's all in Spanish. Fort Dodge brand eq, 50mg/ml. :-/
    Heh, Fort Dodge. That's my home town.

    Man, I never thought about the source possibilities. I know dozens of people who work at the labs there...

    (NO THIS IS NOT A SOURCE OFFER DON'T CONTACT ME!)

    -kwantam

  22. Quote Originally Posted by size
    This combo will work well. I would aim for 75-100mg of test daily and 35-60mg tren daily.
    Thanks for the reply size...those numbers look good. I am going for a recomp/lean mass cycle out of this...would u add any orals to this, I was thinking about winny but I dont know if I want to deal with the joint pain.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Manu20
    I am going for a recomp/lean mass cycle out of this...would u add any orals to this, I was thinking about winny but I dont know if I want to deal with the joint pain.
    Adding an oral is fine if you want to but it is not needed. Oxandrolone would be the #1 choice in my opinion.

  24. I thought the idea of short cycles was to blast, and get in and out without too much damage to your HTPA.

    I just did two short cycles, one 15 days and one 30 days.
    The 15 day one went much better then the 30 day one IMO because I had literally no crash post cycle, and that was my main reason for doing short cycles. When I did the 30 day one, I was depressed and lost interest in eating and training, and to me thats what I was trying to avoid. I ended up losing all my gains on both cycles because of this.
    However, the 15 day cycle allowed me to gain 4-5lbs that I was easily able to hold on to, and thats what im after.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by theseus
    I thought the idea of short cycles was to blast, and get in and out without too much damage to your HTPA.

    I just did two short cycles, one 15 days and one 30 days.
    The 15 day one went much better then the 30 day one IMO because I had literally no crash post cycle, and that was my main reason for doing short cycles. When I did the 30 day one, I was depressed and lost interest in eating and training, and to me thats what I was trying to avoid. I ended up losing all my gains on both cycles because of this.
    However, the 15 day cycle allowed me to gain 4-5lbs that I was easily able to hold on to, and thats what im after.
    What were the cycles of?
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