Short cycles, some thoughts

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  1. Meh... layering, crusing. They are both staying on for very long times, not exactly the "short cycle, then recovery" concept though from what I've read.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*


  2. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Meh... layering, crusing. They are both staying on for very long times, not exactly the "short cycle, then recovery" concept though from what I've read.

    ManBeast
    please explain! how is what L.Rea suggests "staying on" or "cruising", your confusing the **** out of me
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  3. Maybe not L. Rea in this case... I have other issues with him (the claim in "building the perfect beast" that 4-oht helps recover HTPA function for one). But I don't see how an ester that stays in the system for so long can be well utilized in a short cycle. That's what confuses the **** outta me with regards to EQ and enan in a short cycle.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  4. wow I'm glad to see this thread is still somewhat alive. Now that I'm back I will post my cycle and give an update as to how much of my gains I've kept, as of now my PCT is over and I've been off the nolva for over a week. I'll start the thread up a little later because I have to go learn about spinal stabilization. Later J

  5. Any updates on this thread?
    I like the idea of shorter cycles, especially the health aspects. During my last 10 week cycle my BP was up to 160 towards the end, and my doctor was not happy with me.
    But a more productive post cycle seems to be the biggest benefit to me.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    wow I'm glad to see this thread is still somewhat alive. Now that I'm back I will post my cycle and give an update as to how much of my gains I've kept, as of now my PCT is over and I've been off the nolva for over a week. I'll start the thread up a little later because I have to go learn about spinal stabilization. Later J
    How about an update?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Sticks
    How about an update?
    Check out this link for the cycle update.
    Finally a look at my 40day cycle

    I actually just got done running the exact cycle again and I'm now almost 2 weeks into PCT. I'll post more about that later but for right now take a look at my last 40 days cycle and full results through PCT. later J

  8. This is great stuff. I'm looking to do my first cycle this winter. Getting my hands on some eq, that's all I have just yet. Not sure if I can fit that into a short cycle though, off the top of my head. Need to do some more research.

  9. i have enjoyed reading the threads.very helpful and thought provoking for a newbie,thanks everyone that has contributed their thoughts.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    This is great stuff. I'm looking to do my first cycle this winter. Getting my hands on some eq, that's all I have just yet. Not sure if I can fit that into a short cycle though, off the top of my head.
    One could certainly use EQ in a short cycle but you would want to use boldenone base or prop.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by size
    One could certainly use EQ in a short cycle but you would want to use boldenone base or prop.
    what wr your dosages of TNE, Bold base and winny?

    --kojie

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kojie
    what wr your dosages of TNE, Bold base and winny?
    I think you mean Jminis. His log is in the cycle section. The amount of any drug used will be dependent on a few factors.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by size
    I think you mean Jminis. His log is in the cycle section. The amount of any drug used will be dependent on a few factors.
    oops sorry dude.. lolz

    --kojie

  14. Quote Originally Posted by kojie
    oops sorry dude.. lolz

    --kojie
    My dosages changed every 8days or so.
    TB started at approx 120mg/day and was cycled down to 50mg/day
    Bold Base started at 100mg/day went up to 120mg/day and back down to approx 50mg/day
    Winny started at 25mg/day and ended at 75mg/day.

  15. BTW I updated my "Finally a look at my 40day cycle" log with my results from my second run along with some thoughts.

  16. still pretty impressive for a short cycle dude...

    this really has me thinking

  17. Quote Originally Posted by size
    One could certainly use EQ in a short cycle but you would want to use boldenone base or prop.
    As mine is. Bold Prop.
    I'll post results.

  18. n4cer keep us posted on the bold prop. Let us know when it starts kicking in and how's the pain?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by size
    One could certainly use EQ in a short cycle but you would want to use boldenone base or prop.
    Where can I read more about the differences among base, prop, etc? I'm getting them mixed up...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    Where can I read more about the differences among base, prop, etc? I'm getting them mixed up...
    Read about esters. "Base" is simply the hormone without an ester attached.
    These are estimates to account for ester weight.
    suspension(base) : 100%
    Propionate : 79%
    Phenylpropionate : 66%
    Isocaproate : 71%
    enanthate : 69%
    Cypionate : 67%
    Undecanoate : 61%

  21. Day 2 of the bold prop. only 1/2cc (50mg) each day. Pretty sore, but no worse than a prop/tren mix. And I have a slight touch of prop flu today, but I haven't gotten enough rest, so that could be it as well.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Read about esters. "Base" is simply the hormone without an ester attached.
    These are estimates to account for ester weight.
    suspension(base) : 100%
    Propionate : 79%
    Phenylpropionate : 66%
    Isocaproate : 71%
    enanthate : 69%
    Cypionate : 67%
    Undecanoate : 61%
    I see. So test enanth would be a bad choice for a 5wk cycle?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    I see. So test enanth would be a bad choice for a 5wk cycle?
    Yes. Test suspension or prop would be desired.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Read about esters. "Base" is simply the hormone without an ester attached.
    These are estimates to account for ester weight.
    suspension(base) : 100%
    Propionate : 79%
    Phenylpropionate : 66%
    Isocaproate : 71%
    enanthate : 69%
    Cypionate : 67%
    Undecanoate : 61%
    OK, I'm having trouble telling if this is base, prop, etc. It's all in Spanish. Fort Dodge brand eq, 50mg/ml. :-/

  25. Fort Dodge EQ has undecylenate ester. This is not ideal for a short cycle.
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