Epistane vs. Anavar
- 04-24-2011, 12:49 PM
- 04-24-2011, 01:02 PM
i was also wondering this exact thing the other day.
- 04-24-2011, 02:28 PM
Anavar is 10x better if both dosed properly
Not even something to compare IMO But var is also 10x the cost so it's something to think about
04-24-2011, 03:23 PM
I had been wondering this for a while actually. Epistane is extremely cheap compared to var. But if someone does Epi and var at 50mg will the gains of Epi be better? I understand var can be run much higher but if both are dosed the same is Epi comparable.?
04-24-2011, 03:40 PM
04-24-2011, 03:43 PM
Well, if you know where to look, you'll find only a minor price difference. With that said, there is no comparison between Epi and Var.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
04-24-2011, 03:58 PM
^^^ what he said, i get var CHEAP and its 100% legit, melting point etc matches out with the hormone
04-24-2011, 04:04 PM
04-24-2011, 04:15 PM
can any of you that have used var expound on why you think its so much better than epi?
For me, the action IS the juice.
04-24-2011, 04:19 PM
04-24-2011, 04:27 PM
do you have any?
i found two. with one, VAR jacked up lipids from 4 weeks at 20mg/d
the other, not much of an effect
also, i dont understand how it could not negatively effect joints, since it doesnt aromatize. naturally it would be suppressive to estrogen.
For me, the action IS the juice.
04-24-2011, 04:32 PM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
04-24-2011, 05:02 PM
I heard var is rough on lipids. But I have heard that Epi at high dosages is comparableto var. Money is an issue with most and if Epi can give results comparable to var then I'd definitely rather take Epi.
04-24-2011, 06:03 PM
There was a thread going on at OLM about this subject and alot of older bros loved Epi/havoc over var. Which was weird because the older guys that juice arent really fans of PH's. I never tried Var my self but I will be in the future.
Well either way alot of the guys compared the LBM gains but Var dried up the joints more.
04-24-2011, 06:11 PM
I'm kinda excited to try epistane. My cousin did var at 50mg for 5 wks and had treat gains
04-24-2011, 06:24 PM
Yes I've used both. Solo too, var at 80 and epi at 50
Yeah i know I over paid for the var when I got it.
04-24-2011, 06:35 PM
So var at 80mg was 10x better than Epi at 50mg? What were the gains from each like?
04-24-2011, 06:43 PM
I still have a few sealed bottles of the original IBE epi. But man I haven't been on a PH in years, and now it seems like there is so many better ones out now that it feels like it would be a waste to use it up and run a cycle of it, and that I'd be better off getting one of the newer ones to run.
I have 3 or 4 bottles of the original anabolic xtreme SD too. Come to think of it I've got quite a bit of all the older stuff.
04-24-2011, 06:49 PM
Damn man you're lucky lol. I've run SD before and have a case of gyno from it but good gains in size and strength.
04-24-2011, 07:19 PM
04-24-2011, 07:20 PM
hehe I find this thread amusing. Those who say epi is just as good or better than var obviously haven't used legit var before. That's all I have to say
04-24-2011, 07:28 PM
04-24-2011, 07:39 PM
For longer term cuts - I pulse it on M/W/F at about 40mg right off the bat. EC stack every day, reduced calorie diet. On "off" days ... it's Lean XTreme or some other non-stim fat burner along with the EC.
I'm toying with a new idea for a cut ... that would be an Epi / Ostarine stack - do 'em both simultaneous - maybe pulse the Epi because I don't like shutting down.
My needs for cutting are different though - I'm 49 - so it's not too easy for me. However, I'm pretty successful. I'm 10 percent body fat (yet) - but I'm getting there. In any case - I have the best six pack of any 100 49 year old men you could pull off the street and put into one room.
04-24-2011, 07:40 PM
well i for one am finding this thread interesting. i know they arent comprable, but people who use them have similar goals.
kanakafarian, have u taken epi? how bout a comparison?
04-24-2011, 07:42 PM
04-24-2011, 07:48 PM
04-24-2011, 07:51 PM
This is apparently a hot topic lol. I eventually will try both but I'll definitely try Epi first for a lean bulk.
04-24-2011, 07:54 PM
Not everyone is real responsive to EPi - and, truthfully - each time I use it I think I'm a bit less responsive - but it still works for me.
04-24-2011, 08:16 PM
Var will cut you up pretty well doing your normal work out. epi (for me) required me to do some cardio ON and was not as good as the var.
04-24-2011, 08:22 PM
Also you say running methyls only doesnt make sense, any OTC/PH you would recommend to run with to maximize results?
What would think about running AndroHard with?
04-24-2011, 08:53 PM
I also would like to run it at 40-50mg for 5 weeks. Im gonna start formestane tonight to try and get rid of my mild case of rebound gyno. I ended pct 1 week ago. Any idea's?
04-24-2011, 09:19 PM
are we talking about the same hi tech pharma anavar that has 1900mg of a "proprietary blend" ?
04-24-2011, 09:29 PM
04-24-2011, 09:33 PM
haha, ok, I just had to double check on that one to be sure. a google search for "anavar" turns up nothing but that hi tech pharma garbage. I've been out of the PH game for a while now, so I'm playing catch up
edit: nm, oxandrolone isn't even a PH, now the comparison seems a bit unfair, lol.
04-24-2011, 09:42 PM
04-24-2011, 09:52 PM
04-24-2011, 09:56 PM
04-24-2011, 09:58 PM
Oh wow hi-tech pharm. The actual steroid anavar and the ph/ps epistane. But everyone seems to like torem in pct over nolva. Is it that much better.?
04-25-2011, 12:47 AM
good doses of anavar for bodybuilding- 75-100 mgs A DAY
04-25-2011, 09:42 AM
Its so damn expensive though. I wouldove to run var over epistane anyway but in comparison to var in gains and price can Epi deliver?
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