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    Thinking of running Epistane and Anavar together, any thought?
    8 weeks Var 40-50 mg per day
    Weeks 2-6 Epistane 30-40 mg per day
    PCT and a SERM
    any thoughts? Good mix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Var destroys VAT, much better vascularity and strength, extremely mild on lipids, and doesn't have any negatives on the joints.
    Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    i havent been able to find a whole lot of bloodwork for anavar only cycles.

    do you have any?

    i found two. with one, VAR jacked up lipids from 4 weeks at 20mg/d

    the other, not much of an effect

    also, i dont understand how it could not negatively effect joints, since it doesnt aromatize. naturally it would be suppressive to estrogen.
    I know this is an old thread, just doing some epistane research. Just wanted to say the above is false. Var is far from mild on lipids, I saw the labs with jacked lipids but did a cycle anyway (about a year ago it was 50mg for 7 weeks), got bloods after and the doc was ready to send me to a cardiologist they were so bad.

    I can probably dig them up if anyone is interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish II View Post
    I know this is an old thread, just doing some epistane research. Just wanted to say the above is false. Var is far from mild on lipids, I saw the labs with jacked lipids but did a cycle anyway (about a year ago it was 50mg for 7 weeks), got bloods after and the doc was ready to send me to a cardiologist they were so bad.

    I can probably dig them up if anyone is interested.
    yes pls! very interested to see these bloods
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    yes pls! very interested to see these bloods
    You got it

    Couldn't find the first test (My HDL was in the low teens) my AST and ALT were also pretty bad

    Second test (about 2.5 weeks after PCT)
    HDL: 21 (Normal Range > or = 40)
    LDL: 470 (Normal Range <130)
    Triglycerides: 94 (Normal Range <150)

    3rd test about 2 weeks after the above
    HDL: 41 (Normal Range > or = 40)
    LDL: 387 (Normal Range <130)
    Triglycerides: 41 (Normal Range <150)

    Big improvement between each test but still wasn't good.

    It took me over a month from the 3rd test to get my LDL down to 90. I usually am somewhere between 70-80.
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    Anavar is like one if not the best oral steroid out their why someone has never made a ph out of it or something similar i dont know guess raws cost to much everyone would buy it if a good ph of anavar was made or clone :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Anavar is like one if not the best oral steroid out their why someone has never made a ph out of it or something similar i dont know guess raws cost to much everyone would buy it if a good ph of anavar was made or clone :P
    Way too expensive, plus Epi is so cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Anavar is like one if not the best oral steroid out their why someone has never made a ph out of it or something similar i dont know guess raws cost to much everyone would buy it if a good ph of anavar was made or clone :P
    I second this!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Way too expensive, plus Epi is so cheap.
    I agree here, but would love to try Anavar some day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Way too expensive, plus Epi is so cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I agree here, but would love to try Anavar some day
    Me too when I have like 300 bucks to spend on orals alone lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Me too when I have like 300 bucks to spend on orals alone lol.
    Lol sounds crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    Lol sounds crazy
    I can get 50mg pills for $3 a piece. So running 75mg ED for 6 weeks would cost me $190. 3 bottles Epi would cost me $75 shipped lol. That $115 difference would get me 3 vials of Test P from my source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Anavar is like one if not the best oral steroid out their why someone has never made a ph out of it or something similar i dont know guess raws cost to much everyone would buy it if a good ph of anavar was made or clone :P
    Because overall it is weak, and ****s up your lipids (and blood pressure) as I showed above. A PH of it would be even weaker with the same sides; basically worthless.

    A much better aas is turinabol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish II View Post

    Because overall it is weak, and ****s up your lipids (and blood pressure) as I showed above. A PH of it would be even weaker with the same sides; basically worthless.

    A much better aas is turinabol
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish II View Post
    I know this is an old thread, just doing some epistane research. Just wanted to say the above is false. Var is far from mild on lipids, I saw the labs with jacked lipids but did a cycle anyway (about a year ago it was 50mg for 7 weeks), got bloods after and the doc was ready to send me to a cardiologist they were so bad.

    I can probably dig them up if anyone is interested.
    I love Var but it did the exact same thing to my lipids. Mine were HDL 12, LDL 180 3 weeks after 5 weeks of Var at 50mg. I have used Var a few times but this was the first time I had bloodwork done. I regret not having it done in the past as I probably wouldn't have used it again. I will most likely never use any orals again. As far as others, I have seen some folks use it without lipid issues. I guess it depends on the person but obviously it's not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster1 View Post
    I love Var but it did the exact same thing to my lipids. Mine were HDL 12, LDL 180 3 weeks after 5 weeks of Var at 50mg. I have used Var a few times but this was the first time I had bloodwork done. I regret not having it done in the past as I probably wouldn't have used it again. I will most likely never use any orals again. As far as others, I have seen some folks use it without lipid issues. I guess it depends on the person but obviously it's not for me.
    Yeah, I have some left but I am really hesitant to touch the stuff again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Way too expensive, plus Epi is so cheap.
    True but then in the uk here many ugl labs sell anavar 50 mgs tubs for like 40 or 50 quid granted its not pharm grade but it works people get ripped up...

    Just goes to show how good anavar is and such a shame it is to expensive to make it woul be a killer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I can get 50mg pills for $3 a piece. So running 75mg ED for 6 weeks would cost me $190. 3 bottles Epi would cost me $75 shipped lol. That $115 difference would get me 3 vials of Test P from my source.
    You referring to var? The price you quoted is well above average. My last cycle i got 100 x 40mg for $160 shipped. Ran 80 MG / day, solid dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD284 View Post

    You referring to var? The price you quoted is well above average. My last cycle i got 100 x 40mg for $160 shipped. Ran 80 MG / day, solid dose.
    Lol I'm envious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You'd both freaking hate me. I can get var for $9/g.
    You lucky dog you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You'd both freaking hate me. I can get var for $9/g.
    Wow so your supplier makes it.
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    *He* makes it. LOL


    JK of course. But good for you.


    I did a var only cycle - had good results but i think if i were going to do it again i would stack a non methylated stack alongside it, such as the
    Forerunner Labs: Alpha Lab Kit (double dose for 4 weeks) or an AMS stack (like decaSARM), just for extra boost.


    Is it true that running a dry gain + wet gain compound together is synergistic?

    Options:

    Epistane + AMS Decavol/decaSARM @ double dose
    Var + AMS Decavol/decaSARM @ double dose
    Epistane/var + 2 x AMS Anabolic growth kit RDE

    Any thoughts on this? I've only run var. I'm 24 so i dont want to pin yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD284 View Post
    *He* makes it. LOL

    JK of course. But good for you.

    I did a var only cycle - had good results but i think if i were going to do it again i would stack a non methylated stack alongside it, such as the
    Forerunner Labs: Alpha Lab Kit (double dose for 4 weeks) or an AMS stack (like decaSARM), just for extra boost.

    Is it true that running a dry gain + wet gain compound together is synergistic?

    Options:

    Epistane + AMS Decavol/decaSARM @ double dose
    Var + AMS Decavol/decaSARM @ double dose
    Epistane/var + 2 x AMS Anabolic growth kit RDE

    Any thoughts on this? I've only run var. I'm 24 so i dont want to pin yet.
    It just kinda helps u stay drier, since the dry compound will harden u up.
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    Have any of you who have run Anavar noticed any changes in skin quality? (srs)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponysteak View Post
    Have any of you who have run Anavar noticed any changes in skin quality? (srs)
    Skin quality? Well I got some minor acne flare ups but I'm prone to that. Even with natural anabolic I got that. There was slight discoloration and flushing but I'm not sure I can attribute it to the var. No dry skin, rashes or anything like that for me
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    I've heard people mention that their skin looked better/tighter/healthier after their cycle as supposedly it's used for the treatment of burn victims. No idea if any of that's true, just wondering. It'd be awesome if it was true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponysteak View Post
    I've heard people mention that their skin looked better/tighter/healthier after their cycle as supposedly it's used for the treatment of burn victims. No idea if any of that's true, just wondering. It'd be awesome if it was true.
    I can say that I didn't have any issues with acne or anything else on var but was greasy from the test I was on too. Afterwards I really didn't notice any difference in my skin of any kind. Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You'd both freaking hate me. I can get var for $9/g.
    Go on.. u have my attention now lol. if I could find it for that price I'd run it.
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