Epistane vs. Anavar

Page 2 of 5 First 1234 ... Last

  1. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    Depends on how I "cut". For a quick cut - I just use it as you typically would - with diet reduced for a caloric deficit and I use an EC stack.

    For longer term cuts - I pulse it on M/W/F at about 40mg right off the bat. EC stack every day, reduced calorie diet. On "off" days ... it's Lean XTreme or some other non-stim fat burner along with the EC.

    I'm toying with a new idea for a cut ... that would be an Epi / Ostarine stack - do 'em both simultaneous - maybe pulse the Epi because I don't like shutting down.

    My needs for cutting are different though - I'm 49 - so it's not too easy for me. However, I'm pretty successful. I'm 10 percent body fat (yet) - but I'm getting there. In any case - I have the best six pack of any 100 49 year old men you could pull off the street and put into one room.
    thanks bro. If you pulse it, how long do you drag it out for?


  2. This is apparently a hot topic lol. I eventually will try both but I'll definitely try Epi first for a lean bulk.
    •   
       


  3. Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    thanks bro. If you pulse it, how long do you drag it out for?
    Two weeks on ... then two weeks off ... then two weeks on. Six weeks, but only 12 doses ... like I said, I don't like shutdown. I'm very responsive to Epi - I feel it first day every time I use it. That said - it's just a tool in the box to help cut - and pulsing in this manner won't do much unless you have the diet tweaked and you have the "off" days tooled up with EC and other fat burners.

    Not everyone is real responsive to EPi - and, truthfully - each time I use it I think I'm a bit less responsive - but it still works for me.

  4. Var will cut you up pretty well doing your normal work out. epi (for me) required me to do some cardio ON and was not as good as the var.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You won't see many Var only cycles as it really doesn't make sense. Hell, any cycle composed of only methyls doesn't make sense. Unlike other compounds that don't aromatize, Var doesn't have the collagen destruction that is associated with, for example, winstrol. Also, just because it does not aromatize does not mean it will negatively impact the joints.
    I was thinking of running epi 60mg/d for 4-5 weeks. Any idea what kind of gains i could expect? Weight/Strength etc

    Also you say running methyls only doesnt make sense, any OTC/PH you would recommend to run with to maximize results?

    What would think about running AndroHard with?
    •   
       


  6. I also would like to run it at 40-50mg for 5 weeks. Im gonna start formestane tonight to try and get rid of my mild case of rebound gyno. I ended pct 1 week ago. Any idea's?

  7. are we talking about the same hi tech pharma anavar that has 1900mg of a "proprietary blend" ?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    are we talking about the same hi tech pharma anavar that has 1900mg of a "proprietary blend" ?
    LOL I hope not. We're talking about the real deal, Oxandrolone. LOL F that HiTech crap!

  9. haha, ok, I just had to double check on that one to be sure. a google search for "anavar" turns up nothing but that hi tech pharma garbage. I've been out of the PH game for a while now, so I'm playing catch up

    edit: nm, oxandrolone isn't even a PH, now the comparison seems a bit unfair, lol.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    haha, ok, I just had to double check on that one to be sure. a google search for "anavar" turns up nothing but that hi tech pharma garbage. I've been out of the PH game for a while now, so I'm playing catch up

    edit: nm, oxandrolone isn't even a PH, now the comparison seems a bit unfair, lol.
    Well, some seem to think epi is similar to var as far as results. Not even close in my book. The thing that no one has mentioned is how sinewy you can get on var. That sh!t will get you stripped and vascular as hell without much change in diet! I hate cardio and that's why I like var. I find no need to do any cardio and I'll still get pretty vascular. My veins are popping like crazy right now. Wait, I mean, it can potentially cause my veins to pop like crazy! hehehe

  11. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    Depends on how I "cut". For a quick cut - I just use it as you typically would - with diet reduced for a caloric deficit and I use an EC stack.

    For longer term cuts - I pulse it on M/W/F at about 40mg right off the bat. EC stack every day, reduced calorie diet. On "off" days ... it's Lean XTreme or some other non-stim fat burner along with the EC.

    I'm toying with a new idea for a cut ... that would be an Epi / Ostarine stack - do 'em both simultaneous - maybe pulse the Epi because I don't like shutting down.

    My needs for cutting are different though - I'm 49 - so it's not too easy for me. However, I'm pretty successful. I'm 10 percent body fat (yet) - but I'm getting there. In any case - I have the best six pack of any 100 49 year old men you could pull off the street and put into one room.
    I just started a 4 day on 2 off pulse with Epi, 20/40/40/40/40/40, and have Osta on hand I was planning to use during PCT. (Along with Torem.) I'm curious what your thinking is on using it during the cycle instead?


    P.S. Got ten years on you at 59.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kanakafarian View Post
    Well, some seem to think epi is similar to var as far as results. Not even close in my book. The thing that no one has mentioned is how sinewy you can get on var. That sh!t will get you stripped and vascular as hell without much change in diet! I hate cardio and that's why I like var. I find no need to do any cardio and I'll still get pretty vascular. My veins are popping like crazy right now. Wait, I mean, it can potentially cause my veins to pop like crazy! hehehe
    I just scored some Var myself and cant wait to run it!! Im going on a lean bulk next and then maybe ill run that to get ripped!

  13. Oh wow hi-tech pharm. The actual steroid anavar and the ph/ps epistane. But everyone seems to like torem in pct over nolva. Is it that much better.?

  14. take note


    good doses of anavar for bodybuilding- 75-100 mgs A DAY
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  15. Its so damn expensive though. I wouldove to run var over epistane anyway but in comparison to var in gains and price can Epi deliver?

  16. Does anyone remember generic labz megazol? Supposed to be a winny derivative. I still have 3 bottles of it, enough to run it at 300mg for a 6 weeker. How would that compare on a cut to a 6 week epi cycle?

  17. I've seen a huge range of anavar only cycle doses ranging from 20-80 + mg/day.

    Many people enjoy it at the lower doses, and solo too. eg

    http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...y-results.html

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mark118 View Post
    I've seen a huge range of anavar only cycle doses ranging from 20-80 + mg/day.

    Many people enjoy it at the lower doses, and solo too. eg

    http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...y-results.html
    Exactly I know ppl that run it at 40-50 and loved it. And they ran it solo. Dry lean gains.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by jtcastro1 View Post
    Exactly I know ppl that run it at 40-50 and loved it. And they ran it solo. Dry lean gains.
    as with many steroid users IMO these days, doses are uneccesarily high when a more moderate dose will still achieve good results with less suppression, toxicity and pissing away money.

  20. I wouldnt go below 50mg. sh!t women take 10-15mg a day.

    I know everyone doses the piss out of stuff when they dont have to because they think that the AAS or PH is going to give better results or basically make them ripped but still think that 50mg is the min. for someone weighing in at 180-220lb

  21. Yeah 50 is usually the starting point for var. I'll probably run Epi at 40 for 5-6 weeks

  22. Good thread. Looks like var is the winner.

  23. Yeah when I first posted the thread I pretty much knew var was gonna be the winner. But I just wanted to see how epistane would compare in the gains/price ratio

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Var destroys VAT, much better vascularity and strength, extremely mild on lipids, and doesn't have any negatives on the joints.
    Which would you guess is more liver toxic?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by motiv8er View Post
    Which would you guess is more liver toxic?
    Well, broscience floating around the internet will have one think that var is not liver toxic but on the contrary, it is just as much as any other 17 alkalated steroid. For low dosage long-term use, it's pretty gentle on the liver but at the doses that some take it (100mg+), it can get pretty toxic. But I don't see a problem running it at 40-60 for up to 6 weeks. At least that's what I would do.
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. ANAVAR AND EPISTANE
    By Rutgersguy in forum Supplements
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-19-2011, 12:02 AM
  2. Replies: 28
    Last Post: 03-23-2011, 12:28 PM
  3. epistane followed by anavar
    By gicahagi19 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 03-18-2010, 10:47 AM
  4. Anavar + Epistane stack
    By jakedamuus in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 01-27-2009, 08:26 PM
  5. Anavar and Epistane combo!
    By jakedamuus in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-06-2008, 02:38 PM
Log in
Log in