Epistane vs. Anavar

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  1. Does anyone remember generic labz megazol? Supposed to be a winny derivative. I still have 3 bottles of it, enough to run it at 300mg for a 6 weeker. How would that compare on a cut to a 6 week epi cycle?


  2. I've seen a huge range of anavar only cycle doses ranging from 20-80 + mg/day.

    Many people enjoy it at the lower doses, and solo too. eg

    http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...y-results.html

  3. Quote Originally Posted by mark118 View Post
    I've seen a huge range of anavar only cycle doses ranging from 20-80 + mg/day.

    Many people enjoy it at the lower doses, and solo too. eg

    http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...y-results.html
    Exactly I know ppl that run it at 40-50 and loved it. And they ran it solo. Dry lean gains.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by jtcastro1 View Post
    Exactly I know ppl that run it at 40-50 and loved it. And they ran it solo. Dry lean gains.
    as with many steroid users IMO these days, doses are uneccesarily high when a more moderate dose will still achieve good results with less suppression, toxicity and pissing away money.

  5. I wouldnt go below 50mg. sh!t women take 10-15mg a day.

    I know everyone doses the piss out of stuff when they dont have to because they think that the AAS or PH is going to give better results or basically make them ripped but still think that 50mg is the min. for someone weighing in at 180-220lb

  6. Yeah 50 is usually the starting point for var. I'll probably run Epi at 40 for 5-6 weeks

  7. Good thread. Looks like var is the winner.

  8. Yeah when I first posted the thread I pretty much knew var was gonna be the winner. But I just wanted to see how epistane would compare in the gains/price ratio

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Var destroys VAT, much better vascularity and strength, extremely mild on lipids, and doesn't have any negatives on the joints.
    Which would you guess is more liver toxic?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by motiv8er View Post
    Which would you guess is more liver toxic?
    Well, broscience floating around the internet will have one think that var is not liver toxic but on the contrary, it is just as much as any other 17 alkalated steroid. For low dosage long-term use, it's pretty gentle on the liver but at the doses that some take it (100mg+), it can get pretty toxic. But I don't see a problem running it at 40-60 for up to 6 weeks. At least that's what I would do.

  11. Yeah its not as toxic as superdrol or anadrol. But alot of ppl over react with liver toxicity. Var isn't super liver toxic but it does fcuk with the lipids more than people think. Look up some lipid values after a var cycle, it's alot harsher than some think

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jtcastro1 View Post
    Yeah its not as toxic as superdrol or anadrol. But alot of ppl over react with liver toxicity. Var isn't super liver toxic but it does fcuk with the lipids more than people think. Look up some lipid values after a var cycle, it's alot harsher than some think

    I think its mainly dose dependent and cycle length. Your right about SD and anadrol, not as bad but when you go 7-8wks at 70-80mg it can get real bad, most people think its almost harmless too which it isnt at all.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by motiv8er View Post
    Which would you guess is more liver toxic?
    I would say this is a push. They're both mild in terms of hepatoxicity.
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  14. I definitely agree gymrat. Alot is dose dependent and how ppl respond. Some ppl get fcuked up with 10mg of superdrol and others can run it at 30mg no problem. Same with var and every other compound

  15. Var/epi cycle any one?
  16. Cool


    Quote Originally Posted by maniac0614 View Post
    Var/epi cycle any one?
    Stacked or bridged?

  17. Test P and Var. If you can get Var, you can get Prop and will have less sides and more beneficial.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Test P and Var. If you can get Var, you can get Prop and will have less sides and more beneficial.
    Just started an Epi cycle yesterday. I obviously agree with most people on here that you will get better results with the Var. But cost is a factor for me, thats why i went with the Epi. It was suggested to me to run it like this:
    4 weeks @
    20mg 1st three days, 30mg next 3 days, then 40mg/day for the remainder of the cycle. Thoughts?

  19. 100mg ed of var is amazing imo, and as far as I have ever known it does not dry up your joints and is usually on the list with deca and eq for helping out with the joints.

  20. Anavar is great! I have had some good cycles with Epistine.

  21. This was a great thread, just going back and reading through it again. I didn't wanna start a brand new thread to ask this. But someone mentioned a page back that var was basically THE oral for cutting. So instead of doing an epi vs var comparison, how about some input on var vs winny from those who have run both? I've never ran either, but will be in the future at some point.

  22. Epi didn"t really do much for me except give me decent pumps. I never tried var but prob will if I can find it cheap.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jason1000 View Post
    Epi didn"t really do much for me except give me decent pumps. I never tried var but prob will if I can find it cheap.
    Goodluck best I could find was 1$ a 10mg pill.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    This was a great thread, just going back and reading through it again. I didn't wanna start a brand new thread to ask this. But someone mentioned a page back that var was basically THE oral for cutting. So instead of doing an epi vs var comparison, how about some input on var vs winny from those who have run both? I've never ran either, but will be in the future at some point.
    What kills me with winny is the dryness I get. I have old busted dude joints so even though I love its fat killing drying...its too rough for me..love var.

  25. Does var cause hairloss? Might give it a solo run if I can find it around sept.
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  26. Ive been reading on var and have been seeing that a pct is not needed. I find it weird. Is it that mild if not ran above 100mg? I'm talking about running it solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman
    Ive been reading on var and have been seeing that a pct is not needed. I find it weird. Is it that mild if not ran above 100mg? I'm talking about running it solo
    You are still going to need a pct var at 100mg or even less is suppressive for sure

  28. Oxandrolone is the best. Oxandrolone Pharma Grade like Oxandrin can also be used at doses as low as 20mg or 30mg to get decent results. Oxandrolone UG must use a minimum dose of 50mg to procure some effect. Unfortunately it is a steroid highly counterfeited.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Jahcuree

    You are still going to need a pct var at 100mg or even less is suppressive for sure
    I figured you do need one.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by Evil
    Oxandrolone is the best. Oxandrolone Pharma Grade like Oxandrin can also be used at doses as low as 20mg or 30mg to get decent results. Oxandrolone UG must use a minimum dose of 50mg to procure some effect. Unfortunately it is a steroid highly counterfeited.
    I need to research this more. The more I read te better it sounds. Sucks that it's counterfeited a lot and makes it harder to find legit ones, especially it being expensive to run
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  31. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman
    Ive been reading on var and have been seeing that a pct is not needed. I find it weird. Is it that mild if not ran above 100mg? I'm talking about running it solo
    Regardless if the AAS someone uses it will still need a real pct. always take care of the sac.
    Hustle harder

  32. Quote Originally Posted by rabz View Post
    Regardless if the AAS someone uses it will still need a real pct. always take care of the sac.
    Yea ik...I never take anything without a proper pct lined up. I was just reading and some said its not needed in which i found weird...

  33. Some guys say that because it doesn't convert and actually has the ability to reverse some gyno which is cool. Unfortunately it still shuts the ole sac down. I ran a natty pct program the first time I ever did it because I was uneducated and lost almost all my gains. It sucked. However I did rebound okay from it. However the second time I ran a proper pct regimen and kept dang near everything and bounced back hella fast.
    Hustle harder

  34. Yea I heard the gains you get and the fatloss u lose is pretty much easy to keep after cycle. This compound sounds great from all I've gathered. I looked around and for a 6 wk cycle it can run up in the 300's. Lol damn!
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  35. Unbreakable
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    Brooklyn? Where you at in Brooklyn?
    We live in a time where our planet suffers from two epidemics simultaneously - starvation and obesity.

    Look at all these little kids taking care of the music biz, don't their business take good care of me.

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  36. Yea I heard the gains you get and the fatloss u lose is pretty much easy to keep after cycle. This compound sounds great from all I've gathered. I looked around and for a 6 wk cycle it can run up in the 300's. Lol damn!
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  37. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
    Brooklyn? Where you at in Brooklyn?
    Williamsburg
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  38. Anavar produces better quality gains (so i've found) and gave me a more "hard" vascular look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Williamsburg
    Bay Ridge/Bensonhurst...long ago.
    We live in a time where our planet suffers from two epidemics simultaneously - starvation and obesity.

    Look at all these little kids taking care of the music biz, don't their business take good care of me.

    I have the fire, I have the force, I have the power to make my evil take it's course.

  40. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn
    Bay Ridge/Bensonhurst...long ago.
    Ohh cool. Bay ridge is really nice now. I mean it always was lol. Where u at now? Left NY?
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