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    Red face 2nd Cycle Critiques.


    This will be my second 10 week cycle.

    1st cycle history: 10week @ 500mg test E per week, mon, thurs injections.
    Ran HCG 2 week in at 500iu every 5 days. and nolva at 40/40/20/20 for pct.
    My recover was not as fast as i would have liked and I believe it has to do with only using nolva for pct. I put on 15lbs and kept all 15.

    Upcoming 2nd cycle (this one needs the critique)

    Test E 500mg/wk 1-10 (may or may not frontload)
    Tbol 40mg/day 1-4
    Aromasin 12.5mg EoD 1-10
    HCG 250iu/ 2xwk 2-10
    Live52 1-5

    pct includes:
    Clomid 50/50/50/50
    Nolva 20/20/20/20

    Caloric intake: ~3700 calories. This will be a bulking cycle. I chose Tbol over dbol since i did not want to deal with the initial bloat and desire more high quality muscle gains (rather than a lot of h2o weight i will drop when i stop the dbol)

    Thoughts? Thanks for the advice.

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    le bump.
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    Looks like a solid cycle. I wouldn't use aromasin until it is needed. Tbol doesn't aromatize so you shouldn't need sin from week one. I've heard Tbol takes about 3 wks to kick in and is usually ran for 5-6 wks. But other than that it seems like you've done your homework. Goodluck
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    Thanks for the response, The AI isnt for the orals, It is for the Test E. Last cycle i had moon face and I'd like to avoid that if possible. Does anyone think that the low dose aromasin, 12.5mg EoD, would harm my gains?
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    i saved ur cycle thanxs for the hard work..thumbs up..are you gonna do a body part a day..or 2body spilt top twice a week bottom twice a week
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    Add creatine to PCT and maybe some DAA,
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    A body part a day. 4 exercises with 3 sets of 5-8 until failure. Rest on weekends.
    Chest, Back, Shoulders, Legs, Arms.

    Again, arosmain thoughts ?
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    - IMHO in this type of cycle HCG is unnecessary - isn't a very nice drug so it's use should be limited to cycles that meet specific criteria.

    - Your cycle generally looks solid, so congrats for doing some research - it's kind of refresing change.

    Let me point some things out:
    - Aromasin has 24-26 hours of half life so it's use should be ED not EOD + use it an extra 2 weeks after the last injection(the 2 week gap between last injection and start of PCT).

    - PCT is pretty solid - but run 1st week Clomid at 100mg and taper it ou ending 4th week at 25mg ED + Nolva in the 4th week taper it out at 10mg ED.

    - No need for Test frontload, dose T-bol at 40-60mg and you can even run it for 6 weeks without any significant issues - for an 17aa oral steroid it's impact both on liver & lipids is generally considered low.


    P.S. When an aromatizable compound is administered AI is highly recommended - the base IMO of every cycle should be Testosterone = so AI with every cycle.
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    Thanks for the solid replies.
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    Yaz seems spot on! I highly agree with his thoughts on Tbol. And yes aromasin should be used Ed where as adex is usually used eod.
  

  
 

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