I start tommorow.
Designer supp's mdien. I've been on 6mg, for 6th day. Haven't noticed much in the way of weight/strength increases yet. Anyone else have any results show through yet? Should I up the dosage?
I read some cycle logs (I think on other sites) and no one wanted to JUST do mdien, they all stacked it with some other PH/steroid.
Lemme know guys, everyone who "pre-ordered" should have theirs now, I know a lot of you guys are using this stuff..
I start tommorow.
You really have to wait on this stuff from what I read, maybe another week before you start seeing changes. At any rate, this appears to be one of the less risk, less reward type of PHs.
Started at 6mg on the 21st. Bumped up to 7 after 4 or 5 days, and have been sitting at 8mg since yesterday. I will probably stay there.
I'm up about 4lbs (started at 205).
edit: this is a true stand-alone m-dien cycle.
nice JCC, have you seen any sides at all? any strength increases to report?
I think I'm going to go up to 8 as well.
I have not heard much in the way of positive feedback, but I have heard very little feedback in general, which is somewhat surprising after all of the hype behind it.
However, a 4lb increase in roughly 12 days is great.
BP 'feels' a bit high sometimes, but I have not gone and checked it yet. Aside from that, no sides. Zero. Still waking up with morning wood even. heh
Nothing dramatic as far as strength gains yet. However I'm on a two week rotation, doggcrapp style. So today I'm back at the 'beginning' and I'll find out how much my lifts go up. I'll report a little later on this evening.
Started Methyl-dien (designer supps. from 1fast) 6 days ago at 4mg a day.
Nothing worth mentioning yet. Bumped it up to 6mg starting today. Will re-assess in 6 days and maybe go to 8 if I need to. This also is stand alone except for Liver supps. I planned a nolva for PCT but am wondering if 6 oxo would be sufficient given it doesn't seem very suppressive -yet?
BTW 6'2" 230lbs 11%b/f age 34 years lifting 16
I don't know; I already have nolva and I will be using that. But this is certainly a lot less suppressive than I thought it would be.
I have nolva too and will likely use it, but I have 6 oxo also and was thinking I could reserve the nolva for another time, but I guess not. Also I had a liver panel done the day before I started and will have another done after PCT. I want to what the doctor has to say then.Originally Posted by Jcc
Just started today on DS M-Dien and at a 4 pill dosage gonna try that for a week and bump to 6 if I don't get the results I need.
I'm a bit disappointed in today's workout. This is the first time a two week rotation of exercises has started over again while on the m-dien.
Strength went up slightly on everything, but then I failed miserably on my deadlifts.
Two weeks ago- 355x4
This week- 365 MISSED! tried again and missed also
Oh well, maybe just a bad day.
Glad to see everyone is posting the results, remember stregnth increases shouldnt seem to come on overnight, its more of a slow progression. also everyone seems to be slightly losing weight but getting leaner and more vascular, so make sure you are getting in enough protein, that is always my biggest problem. i always think i am getting enough, then i check my log and im off my 50gms here and ther, it does add up.
I've been on DS methyldien for almost a week at 5mg a day. My appetite is through the roof and workouts are doing very well. Already got some complements on my shoulders and arms. Strength is up on almost everything so far, but this week will be the test. People should remember that even dbol and winny don't give immediate results, so MD shouldn't be expected to. So far, the only sides are hunger (which isn't bad!) and slight acne, which I get with anything. Blood pressure seems to be under control and isn't anywhere near as bad as on M1T.
34yrs 189 4.5%bf Very diet dedicated. 200-250 gms of pro ed.
Well, I now know I'm not alone. I'm on my second week and absolutely no sides or much to speak of so far which is kind of a concern I suppose.
Started at 4mg ed and will now be at 6mg ed most likely ending at 8ed on a 4 week cycle.
Results have been not much(2lbs, but that could be from the usual weekend high calorie input) but I'm going to be patient. After having the M1T hit you, supress you and impress immediately it's hard to be optimistic about MD but I would expect it to be better in the days ahead. I'm not much into logs but I will keep posting when I can.
Just outta curiousity since the recommended dosage of mdien has been raised another question comes to mind.. I thought the hepatoxicity of mdien was quite high as well.. so I was wondering what the deal with that was since we gotta take more now.. I think I'm going to start my dosage at either 6 or 8mg's when I start my cycle.. I'll be doing high doses of m1,4add switching to regular doseage of m1t then switching to mdien.. hoping that mdien will knock out some of the water weight from m1t.. also i was going to take m5aa preworkout
just because you're taking different methyl's through the course of your cycle, doesn't mean you're not taking a methyl for longer than 4 weeks at a time.
I also follow DC and IA's training routines. If this is your first go around with DC, you'll find out that it takes about four full cycles through the exercises to get accustomed to doin it. Don't worry too much about increases on your lifts the first few times. Just use the time to get used to this style of training.
By the way, a ten pound increase in deads might be a bit much also. There have been times when I only increased one or two pounds or maybe left the weight alone and added a rep or two.
MD was very mild when it came to liver toxicity. Super had tested it up to 12mgs per day if I remeber correctly without much of rise in liver vaules. so its toxicty as well as its progesterone affinity were not at all what people thought it would be. so using an 8mg dose shoudlnt be a problem at all. although I still think 8mgs maybe high for most people. This compound isnt M1T, so dont look for those results.
Sledge (please correct me here if I'm wrong) reported that supersoldier's liver values indeed rose, but not in as dramatic proportion as was expected based the initial profile of this androgen. He stated the M-dien was more mild than expected compared to M1T, but I don't think this means it still is not smart to exercise some caution here. As for dosing, it seems tricky. I thought 4 mg was a solid dose but I think maybe 7-9 will end up being more of the optimal dosage for most. Only time will tell. As it was stated I think we'll need some patience on this one. BTW I am on day 8 overall 6 days at 4mg and 6mg since yesterday.Just outta curiousity since the recommended dosage of mdien has been raised another question comes to mind.. I thought the hepatoxicity of mdien was quite high as well.. so I was wondering what the deal with that was since we gotta take more now..
I would also be very interested in more feedabck from SS.