M1,4add + P-Mag... 10 week cycle & PCT Log!

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Whatsup everybody.... I've been researching a cycle involving m1,4add plus p-mag for months now, and the time has come to start it up. I am going to be starting it up sometime later in this week, depending on when im fully ready, and have achieved my ideal starting weight.

Special thanks to escholar... your log greatly helped, and was a major source of info. Also, thanks to gymaddict20, who started his cycle about a week ago, again... great info deff helped me fine tune my plan a lot. Hope it goes great ill be watching closely.

The Gear
CEL M1,4add: 90/120/120/120/ 0/ 0
CEL P-Mag: 0/ 0/ 50/ 75/ 75/ 75
CEL Formestane:0/ 0/ 0/100/100/100

Post Cycle Lineup
Clomid:..............100/50/ 0/ 0/ 0/0/0
Nolva:................20/40/20/20/10/0/0
CEL Fromestane:..50/50/ 0/ 0/ 0/0/0
iforce Reversitrol:. 0/ 0/ 0/ 3/ 2/2/1
ZMA
Jack3d
Creatine Monohydrate
Purple Wrath
(never needed a cortisol agent... gonna play it by year)

Support Supplements
All of which will taken from 2 weeks prior to cycle, and 4 weeks after pct...
Hawthorne Berry
Fish Oils
Milk Thistle
Liver Care
Saw Palmetto
Multi-V
Taurine

The Routine
Day 1: Shoulders/Abs
Day 2: Quads/ Calves
Day 3: Back/ Traps
Day 4: Off
Day 5: Chest/ Abs
Day 6: Hammys/Traps/ Calves
Day 7: Arms
Day 8: Off
Excersizes will be posted on daily updates

Stats/Goals
Current Size: 5'10" 183 lbs
Goal: end up gaining 15 solid pounds after water weight has drained, and cycle is over.

Current Weights on Big Lifts:
Bench Press- 235x8 / 275x1..................Goal-255x8 / 315x1
Squat- 335x8......................................Goal-385x8 / 405x anything
Deadlift- 335x8 / 385x1.........................Goal-365x8/ 405x1
DB Shoulder Press- 90s x6....................Goal- 100sx8


Ill start updates within the week...
 
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diet breakdown will be up tomorrow
 

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Good luck bro. i hope you get the results your looking for. i start my cycle tomarrow.
 
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Glad I could lend the helping hand. You are going to love this cycle. You may want to throw in LG's Receptor. It defn enhances the effects of the M14ADD and P-mag. I saw effects on day two lol. You need anything let me know.
 
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looks good. how much did everything cost? lol it looks pretty costly 300?
 
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Glad I could lend the helping hand. You are going to love this cycle. You may want to throw in LG's Receptor. It defn enhances the effects of the M14ADD and P-mag. I saw effects on day two lol. You need anything let me know.
Deff will look into that...thanks dude.


As for the cost, about 30 for each bottle so 120 right there... support supps i stole from walmart lol... and the serms were another 50... found a great place to order real clomid and nolva. All other otc pct stuff Ill pick up as more money comes in. I was more concerned with getting the serms beforehand...
then of course theres the protein, and fooood... but thats a given cost
 
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great looking stack good luck with your goals
 
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Ok so... My cycle begins tomorrow...finally! I am going to be taking 90mg of M1,4add spaced at:
30mg- 10am
30mg- Noon
Workout- 1pm
30mg-5pm

I took 30mg tonight just minutes ago to kick start the cycle. I will post up my workout with weights and reps, as well as my diet tomorrow night.

Unfortunatly I caught a stomach virus over the weekend and couldnt eat **** for 3 days... and needless to say I lost about 4 lbs. Im sure its not all muscle but its a ****ty way to start off. My reason for letting everyone know is bc my start weight is now at 180lbs.
 

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subbed! I'm thinking about a M1,4 cycle soon myself, so I'll be following intently.
 
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Subbed good luck. This will def put some size on u man.
 
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DAY 1- Shoulders
Dosage: 30mg at a time taken at 10am, 12pm, 4pm
Weight: 180lbs (+0)


Workout: 1pm (weights exclude all warmup sets)
Seated DB Press: 80x8 80x8 85x6

Seated Arnold Press: (dropsets for previous) 50x10 45x10

Bent-Over Rear Flys: 25x10 30x8 35x8 45x6

Upright Rows: 115x8 135x8 135x6

Seated lateral Raises: 25x10 30x8 30x8

Cable Front Raises (weight= # knotch on weightstack): 2x10 reps 3x8 3x8

Comments: All in all, decent workout. Didn't feel much different except for the obvious placebo affect, but hey its day 1. Other then that I felt pretty good all day and deff noticed an increase in my thirst and somewhat in appetite. Can't wait for tomorrow... well at least going to the gym tomorrow lol.


Diet
All Nutritional Info that isnt printed I get from approximation from online sources. Id say about 90% accurate. Im only logging calories and protein intake, because Im not as concerned about fat/carbs, and I just dont feel like it lol. Im bulking and I generally eat semi-lean and healthy so Until i start noticing more bodyfat im gonna just wing it on fat.

Meal 1: 1 Serving Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/ 8g protein
1 Big Colossal Meal Bar- 400 cals/ 30g protein

Meal 2: Beef Stew- 350 cals/ 20g protein
Carrots/Mashed Potatoes- 200 cals/ 5g protein
Vitamin Water- 100 cals/ 0 protein

Preworkout Protein- 150 cals/ 25 protein
-workout-
Postworkout Protein- 150 cals/ 25 protein

Meal 3: McDonalds Angus Deluxe- 750 cals/ 40g protein (dont usually get)
Fries (Half serving)- 200 cals/ 5g protein
Soda - 200 cals/ 0 protein

Meal 4: Chocolate Milk- 170 cals/ 8g protein
Tuna Salad- 220 cals/ 15g protein

Meal 5: Corned Beef- 200 cals/ 15g protein (st. pattys day!)
Potatos- 200 cals/ 10g protein
Powerade- 100 cals/ 0 protein

Meal 6: Peanut Butter Fluff Sandwich- 450 cals/ 15g protein
1 Serving Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/ 8g protein

Meal 7: ??? yet to come, aiming for a protein shake before I go to bed ~150/25g

Day 1 Totals: ~4050 calories/ ~240g protein
 
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Day 2- Quads/Calves
Dosage: 30mg at 11am, 60mg at 3pm
Weight: 180lbs (+0)

Workout: 4pm
Squat: 135x10, 275x8, 315x8, 335x6, 335x6

Seated Calf Raises: 90x10, 115x8, 135x6

Seated Squat Press: 200x10, 380x8, 470x4, 470x4

Standing Calf Raises: 90x8, 90x8, 90x8

Leg Extensions: 110x10, 130x8, 150x8

Comments: Another decent workout, didnt hit any of my personal highs, weight wise, but deff solid. Starting to feel the pump and endurance increase in the gym. I've been going in tired, but half way through the workout I get a rush of quality energy and dont want to leave. Leaving today I felt like I could keep going for hours.

Diet
Didnt have time to record all my meals down, Had 2 tests today so the whole day (for once lol) wasnt revolving around workout time. Looking back though and from what I can calculate, I easily reached over 4k cals, with around 250 grams of protein. Im going to try to up my protein intake to around 300 starting tomorrow.

Back workout tomorrow and im ****in exciteddddd
 
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Day 3- Back/Traps
Dosage: 30mg at 11am, 60mg at 1pm
Weight: 180lbs (+0)

Workout 2:30pm
Weighted Wide Grip Pullups: 25lbsX10, 45x8, 45x8, 45x8

Bent Over Rows: 135x10, 165x8, 185x6, 195x4

BB Shrugs: 225x8, 225x8, 275x8, 275x8

Seated Narrow Grip Cable Rows: 160x10, 190x8, 190x6

Narrow Grip Cable Pulldowns: 140x10, 150x8, 150x8

Comments: Excellent workout today, I started it off with 15 mins on the bike. that got me going fast, and the agressiveness came out immediately. I ended updoing another set of weighted pullups with a plate strapped on, I usually only do 3. Im kind of confused as to why im not gaining any weight, m1,4add or not im still taking in 4k+ calories a day... wtf. Whatever Ill just keep it going and the pounds will have to go up. No strength gains yet, and no sides either, besides a little trouble sleeping.
My diet was a little larger then most days due to starting my day at 730 am and not going to bed until 5am... (early class, then work late at the bar)

Diet
Meal 1: Bagel w/Cream cheese- 500 cals/ 15g protein
V8 V-fusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein

Meal 2: Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 14g protein
Nutri-grain bar- 130 cals/ 2g protein

Meal 3: Pork w/ bread, corn- 450 cals/ 20g protein

Preworkout: Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
Energy powerbar- 220 cals/ 6g protein
Banana- 100 cals/ 1g protein

Posk Workout: Protein shake: 150 cals/ 25g protein

Meal 4: Chicken Pot Pie- 370 cals/ 10g protein
Pork Chop- 150 cals/ 20g protein
Crackers: 250 cals/ 10g protein
String Cheese- 100 cals/ 7g protein

Meal 5: Pasta- 400 cals/15g protein
Sauce/butter/cheese- 200 cals/5g protein
Milk- 200 cals/ 15g protein
Cookie- 150 cals/ 2g protein

Meal 6: Slice of Pizza- 250cals/ 8g protein
Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
Soda- 100 cals/ 0 protein

Gatorade: (throughout day): 300 cals/ 0 protein


Total: 4710 calories/ 250g protein

can I please gain at least a pound? lol
 
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Day 4- off
worked all day today, diet was decent, again over 4k cals and 260 protein. I just took pics but I dont know how to get them up... anyone know how?
 
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Day 4- off
worked all day today, diet was decent, again over 4k cals and 260 protein. I just took pics but I dont know how to get them up... anyone know how?
goto advanced, and look for the lil paperclip, browse, upload and save
 
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Day-5
had to take the day off due to work, and needing to rest. Tomorrow is chest so im pretty pumped, ill be in the gym around 12, and will be uping my dose to 120mg, even though week 2 doesnt start till wednesday.

Comments: The increase in thirst is unbeleivable. I literally cannot stop drinking, and the odd part is im deff only peeing out about half of what im drinking, but not gaining weight or bloating :thinking:
Aside for hunger, definite increase as well. As soon as im done stuffing my face, my fullness only last for a few mins and im ready to keep going, its great.

Other sides: Balls are still good sized, I think its bc I dont take a dose after 5, so my natty test has a chance to rise all evening and night. I have been having a lot of trouble sleeping, and am only getting like 5-6 hours a night, even when I have the oppertunity to get more... it kind of sucks... Im thinking that may be inhibiting my weight gain as well.
Im also noticing that im a lot more cranky, and quicker to anger, which is a normal for me while on cycle, but i think the lack of sleep is amplifying it. Funny story... Im in my dining hall at school earlier today and was making a cream cheese bagel. I cut it and started to spread the cream cheese on, but i happened to get a little on my finger. For some reason I snapped, spiked the bagel against the ground and walked out. I hope that doesnt happen again, even though its hilarious in retrospect.


Update for day 6 will be up tomorrow.
 
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had to take the day off due to work, and needing to rest. Tomorrow is chest so im pretty pumped, ill be in the gym around 12, and will be uping my dose to 120mg, even though week 2 doesnt start till wednesday.

Comments: The increase in thirst is unbeleivable. I literally cannot stop drinking, and the odd part is im deff only peeing out about half of what im drinking, but not gaining weight or bloating :thinking:
Aside for hunger, definite increase as well. As soon as im done stuffing my face, my fullness only last for a few mins and im ready to keep going, its great.

Other sides: Balls are still good sized, I think its bc I dont take a dose after 5, so my natty test has a chance to rise all evening and night. I have been having a lot of trouble sleeping, and am only getting like 5-6 hours a night, even when I have the oppertunity to get more... it kind of sucks... Im thinking that may be inhibiting my weight gain as well.
Im also noticing that im a lot more cranky, and quicker to anger, which is a normal for me while on cycle, but i think the lack of sleep is amplifying it. Funny story... Im in my dining hall at school earlier today and was making a cream cheese bagel. I cut it and started to spread the cream cheese on, but i happened to get a little on my finger. For some reason I snapped, spiked the bagel against the ground and walked out. I hope that doesnt happen again, even though its hilarious in retrospect.


Update for day 6 will be up tomorrow.
Lol that is funny. Throwing random temper tantrums r ok if only a bagel is the victim "die bagel die!" :AR15firing:
 
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it was most definitely the victim of that lol
 
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well prepared cycle and diet log,

questions:
-Are you doing cardio? if yes how often and what type? (maybe i missed that part)

-What bodytype are you? ecto, meso etc (tied to first question)

-looks like your macros are counted in cals/pro. do you advocate any note worthy techniques in your diet, LIKE low carbing after 5pm or avoiding Fats/carbs in meals etc? just let it fall where they may?


sorry for all the questions bro. :silly:
 
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well prepared cycle and diet log,

questions:
-Are you doing cardio? if yes how often and what type? (maybe i missed that part)

-What bodytype are you? ecto, meso etc (tied to first question)

-looks like your macros are counted in cals/pro. do you advocate any note worthy techniques in your diet, LIKE low carbing after 5pm or avoiding Fats/carbs in meals etc? just let it fall where they may?


sorry for all the questions bro. :silly:

1) yes, I do cardio in the form of biking or elliptical for 15-20 mins before every workout.

2) I am an ECTO. All my life ive been skinny as a bone... Used to run track and cross country. I started going to the gym during that time but didnt start gaining weight until I realized I needed to eat lol. I gained roughly 30 lbs so far (4 years) since I started taking it seriously. Im an ecto to the point where if I miss a meal I will loose a few lbs.

3) As far as my diet, not much technique excpet eat as much as possible. I try to take in a significant amount of protein and carbs especially around my workouts, and upon waking, to stay anabolic. Fat isnt monitored as much, I just try to eat somwhat healthy and its working pretty well.
 
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Day 6- Chest/Abs
Dosage: 30mg@ 8am, 60mg@ 11am, 30mg@ 3pm
Weight: 181lbs (+1 lb

Workout: 12pm
Bench Press: 135x10, 225x8, 225x8, 235x6

Abs Superset: leg lifts x Crunches: 10x10x3

Incline BB Press: 135x10, 155x8, 185x6, 205x4

Decline Cable Flies (weight=# on rack): #3x10, #6x8, #6x8

-Abs-

Superset:
Decline Press Machine: 180x10, 230x8, 230x7
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Incline DB Flies: 35x8, 35x8, 35x8

Comments: Pretty good workout today, didnt notice a strength increase, but had a nice pump. I finally gained a pound, so im content. Still thirsty and hungry as ever. Nuts doin good, no nipple problems, just cant wait for this to kick in full swing. Tomorrow is quads/calves, and Im curious to see how the deadlift is.

Diet
Meal 1: Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/8g protein
Banana- 100/ 0g protein
Goldfish- 150/ 5g protein
Protein Shake- 150/ 25g protein

Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 15g protein
Bagel w/Creme Cheese- 500 cals/ 10g protein
Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

Post Workout Shake: 150 cals/ 25g protein

Meal 3: Italian Sub Sandwich- 1000 cals/ 50g protein

Meal 4: pasta- 600 cals/ 21g protein
Butter/sauce/ cheese- 250 cals/ 5g protein

Meal 5: Baked Chicken Breasts- 300 cals/ 40g protein
Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
Butter- 50 cals/ 0 protein

Meal 6: bowl of cereal- 250 cals/ 10g protein
Protein shake- 150 cals/25 protein

Total: 4200 calories/270g protein

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Day 7- Hamstrings/Calves/Traps
Dosage: 30mg@ 930am, 60mg@ 12 noon, 30mg@ 3pm
Weight: 182lbs. (+2 Total)

Workout- 1pm
Cardio- Bike 20 mins

Deadlift: 135x10, 275x10, 315x8, 365x4, 365x2, 385x1

Hack Squat Machine: 90x10, 180x8, 180x8, 230x6

DB Shrugs: 90x10, 100x8, 100x8

Standing Calf Raises: 90x8, 90x8, 90x8

BB Lunges: 135x8, 135x8, 185x6

Leg Curls: 90x8, 90x8, 90x8

Comments: Today was by far the best day in the gym yet. I had an amazing pump and crazy energy it was brolic as hell. However, no strength gains yet, my deadlift is exactly what it was last week, which pisses me off bc I felt as if I should be doing 20 more lbs on everything. I also usually make weekly progress on my DL as long as I eat well all week, which I have. Needless to say im ready and waiting for the strength gains to come. Tomorrow starts week 2, but im still in the last day of my workout cycle- arms. Sides are non existant, in fact my crankyness seems to have worn off as Ive been sleeping better. No lethargy, no testicular atrophy, no estro problems. its all good.

Diet
Meal 1: 2 Bowls of Cereal- 300 cals/ 10g protein
Banana- 100 cals/ 0 protein

Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 14g protein
Bagel W/Cream Cheese- 500 cals/ 10g protein
V8 Vfusion- 150 cals/ 0 g protein
Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

-Workout-

Post workout shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

Meal 3: 2 Softshell Beef Tacos (not fast food)- 400 cals/ 25g protein
gatorade- 200 cals/ 0 protein

Meal 4: Pulled Pork Sandwich- 500 cals/ 40g protein
Mashed Potatoes (home-made)- 400 cals/ 10g protein
String Beans/Broccoli- 100 cals/ 3g protein

Meal 5: Chicken Breast- 300 cals/ 40g protein
Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
Butter- 50 cals/ 0 protein


Totals 3700 cals/ 205g protein... but im having an additional meal+ shake so hopefully end up at 4200/ 250 :)
 

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Diet
Meal 1: Vanilla Yogurt- 100 cals/8g protein
Banana- 100/ 0g protein
Goldfish- 150/ 5g protein
Protein Shake- 150/ 25g protein

Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 15g protein
Bagel w/Creme Cheese- 500 cals/ 10g protein
Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

Post Workout Shake: 150 cals/ 25g protein

Meal 3: Italian Sub Sandwich- 1000 cals/ 50g protein

Meal 4: pasta- 600 cals/ 21g protein
Butter/sauce/ cheese- 250 cals/ 5g protein

Meal 5: Baked Chicken Breasts- 300 cals/ 40g protein
Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
Butter- 50 cals/ 0 protein

Meal 6: bowl of cereal- 250 cals/ 10g protein
Protein shake- 150 cals/25 protein

Total: 4200 calories/270g protein

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:yo:Just some suggestions:

- I would avoid processed carbs or simple sugars in the meal preceding a work out. You drastically reduce insulin sensitivity and as a result of this, your post workout drink (whey or whey+waxy maize etc) will a slower, less drastic impact on glycogen restoration and muscle cell synthesis.

- Fewer protein shakes, more solid proteins. This if for a few reasons; first, our bodies have an incredibly difficult time absorbing nutrients from liquids (if I can find some studies I'll post them). Secondly, the amino acid profile of every meal is almost identical. Therefore your cells have too many of certain AA's and too few of other AA's to build proteins (and eventually multiply read/Anabolism!) with.
 
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thanks for the info... dr j. im gonna try to prepare chicken to eat during the day instead of a shake
 
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Week 2- (Day 1)- Arms
Dosage: 30mg@ 11am, 60mg@ 2pm, 30mg@ 5pm
weight: 183 (+3 lbs)

Workout- 3pm
Preacher Curls- 65x10, 95x8, 105x8, 115x5 (Including 15lb bar)

Standing BB Curls- 40x10, 50x8, 50x8, 55x6

Skull Crushers- 65x10, 95x8, 105x8, 115x7 (Including 15lb bar)

Tricep Rope Pulldowns- #4x10, #5x8, #5x8, #6x6 (On the straight pulldown cable, not the double pully one, and weights are unknown)

BB Reverse Curls- 80x8, 90x8, 80x8

Dips (with weight strapped on)- 45x8, 45x8, 45x8

Wrist Curls- 80x8, 80x8, 80x8

Reverse Wrist Curls- 40x8, 50x8, 50x8

Comments: Again, great workout. The pumps and aggression in the gym are getting stronger everyday. I finish a set an just pace back and forth bc I am so pumped up, like an animal. I am up three pounds total, and have been gaining a pound a day so im happy there... hope it keeps up at the pace for as long as possible. With all the crazy workouts, im surprised I havnt made any strength gains yet. I leave the gym in such a good mood, I forget Im doing the same weights as weeks before. Anyhow, I know they will come, and ill just enjoy the pumps for now.
Sides: Not much, starting to notice a little testicular atrophy, not much though, and it could be in my head. No estro sides. THirst and hunger are still going nuts, thirst in particular.

Im taking tomorrow off, then restarting my workout cycle with shoulders again. It sucks having an 8 day rotation, bc im finishing MY week one on the real week two. Ill try to distinguish the two in future posts so its not confusing.

Diet
Meal 1: V8 Vfusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein
Vanilla Yogurt- 200 cals/ 20g protein
Big Collasal 100 Bar- 350 cals/ 25g protein

Meal 2: Greek Yogurt- 140 cals/ 14g protein
Nature Valley Oat Bar- 130 cals/ 2g protein

Meal 3: Chicken Fingers- 350 cals/ 30g protein
Pasta- 200 cals/ 10g protein
Cranberry juice- 150 cals/ 0g protein

Preworkout: Powerbar- 220 cals/ 10g protein

-Workout-

Postworkout: Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein

Meal 4: Chicken Breast- 200 cals/ 35g protein
Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
V8 vFusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein

Meal 5: Turkey- 250 cals/ 35g protein
Mashed Potatoes- 250 cals/ 5g protein

(went to the movies, saw shutter is., great movie)-Candy- 300 cals/ 0g protein

Meal 6: Pasta- 500 cals/20g protein

Meal 7: Chicken Pot Pie- 350 cals/ 10g protein

Total: 4100 cals/ 245g protein

decent eating day, only had one protein shake though, deff could have fit one in before bed -_-.

Shoulders week 2 on saturday!
 
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Week 2- day 2.

today was my day off, took in about 4k cals, about 250g protein. Weight is up another pound im up to 184lbs. thats 4 pounds total gain. Tomorrow is shoulders so im hoping for a good workout.


sides: nipples seem a bit puffy, but im going to dose in some left over arimadex to see how it works, as im trying to hold off on the formestane
 
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Week 2- (Day 3)- Shoulders
Dosage: 120mg M14,add
Weight: 185 lbs (+5 lbs)

Workout
DB Shoulder Press: 80x8, 85x8, 85x6

DB Arnold Press: 50x10, 50x8

Bent Over Rear Flys: 25x10, 35x8, 40x8, 45x6

Upright Rows: 95x10, 125x8, 135x8, 145x6

Seated Lateral Raises: 25x10, 35x8, 30x8

Cable Front Raises: #2x10, #3x8, #4x6, #2x8

Comments: I started off with 15 mins on the bike, then jumped right into my workout. Stamina in the gym was great as usual, getting good pumps. No strength increase yet, although my increased endurance has led to me being able to increase weights in my middle rep range. For example, last week I did sets of 8/8/6 on db shoulder press, my weights were 80/80/85. This week i bumped my middle set to 85. Nothing too exciting, but a gain nonetheless.

Sides: Lethargy is starting to kick in, but im holding off on dhea until its a problem. In the past a lot of my estrogen sides started to flare up once i dose in the dhea, so ill hold off. balls are doing ok, deff a little shrinkage, but im expecting it.

Diet
Didnt' log everything down, but got in the usual 4k cals/ 250g protein. Im going home for spring break so im excited to eat some real food, and lots of it. With the upcoming week full of plenty of good food, and approaching week 3 of the cycle, im sure ill be making some real gains. yeaaa


plus, up 5 pounds!
 
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week 2, day 4- off

starting upping my cals even more now that im home, so hopefully ill kick into high gear from here on out. lethargy is deff here now, im sleeping like 9 hours a day then tired for all the rest of the day. It sucks, ill sit on the couch and then will have no desire to get up, and just get sleepy.... so im going to start taking 50mg of dhea a day...

anyone have any input as to when i should be taking it?
also...
when (in the day) should i be taking the formestane?
 
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week 2, day 4- off

starting upping my cals even more now that im home, so hopefully ill kick into high gear from here on out. lethargy is deff here now, im sleeping like 9 hours a day then tired for all the rest of the day. It sucks, ill sit on the couch and then will have no desire to get up, and just get sleepy.... so im going to start taking 50mg of dhea a day...

anyone have any input as to when i should be taking it?
also...
when (in the day) should i be taking the formestane?
try to keep the dosesages 12 hours apart, on both items. this will keep consistant levels in your body
 
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try to keep the dosesages 12 hours apart, on both items. this will keep consistant levels in your body
thanks will do... im excited to use formestane i only hear good reviews
 
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Question. Last time i ran m14add i started having depression/anxiety problems..... Have you noticed anything like this? etc... Or if not you has anyone?
 
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I havnt been noticing anything along those lines. In past cycles, like on epi, i deff felt a little depression, but i waited it out and it ended once i came off pct.

For M1,4add, The lethargy this compound causes might seem a bit depressing, with not wanting to move around, and always being tired. I could see how u might associate lethargy with depression, but either way once i started popping a dhea pill daily, i feel pretty damn normal... until the gym:AR15firing:
 
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Week 2- (day 5) Quads/Calves
Dosage: M1,4ADD- 120mg throughout the day
Weight: 185 lbs. (+5)

Workout- 4:30pm
Ahhh... back at my home gym- it really makes a difference I love it so much more then the ****ty one up at school thats crowded with all kinds of kids runnin around with no f'in clue what there doing. BUT DAMN! today was the best workout yet... big gains and truly a brolic workout. I think I grew more chest har after today

Squat: 295x8, 315x8, 335x6, 355x6 (getting back to my old weights)

Seated Calf Raises: 90x10, 135x8, 180x6 (increased in all)

Leg Press: 200x10, 450x8, 540x4, 540x4 (best yet)

Calf Raises on Leg Press: 180x8, 180x8, 180x8

Leg Extension: 140x10, 160x8, 180x8 (big increase, might be the different machine though)

Comments: EXCELLENT WORKOUT!!! idk if being home had something to do with it but I was live today. All weights felt lighter, and I increased on all exercises while improving form! Ill be perfectly happy if every workout from here on out is like this one, both in strength increase and pure rage.

Sides: Lethargy= done, because of dhea. Testicular atrophy has leveled out, there smaller but not still shrinking. No acne. Moderate roid rage throughout the day... little things set me off quick unless I breath and just chill on it for a minute. Not that this is a side, but I feel like im gaining a little fat along with this weight, so im gonna try to clean up my diet a little.

Diet- will start logging it again tomorrow. The last few days have been nuts running around. Im eating well but dont have time to log.

Tomorrow is back/traps... stay tuned
 
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got my bp checked today... at the dentist lol. It came out to 110/68, which im told is pretty good. I was surprised bc i havnt even been taking my hawthorne berry (i forget), but hey it looks like im doing alright. Either way ill start taking it, who knows what the upcoming weeks will bring
 
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got my bp checked today... at the dentist lol. It came out to 110/68, which im told is pretty good. I was surprised bc i havnt even been taking my hawthorne berry (i forget), but hey it looks like im doing alright. Either way ill start taking it, who knows what the upcoming weeks will bring
yeah i usually have low BP as well, unless on HDROL, and i will be waiting to see what pmag has in store for me.
 
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Week 2 (Day 6)- Back/Traps+ Bis
Dosage: M1,4add 120mg
Weight: 185 lbs. (+5)

Because of a future schedule conflict I had to distribute my arms days into my back and chest days. I added in some bis today it sucked though deff didnt have the numbers I wanted bc my back workout first drained them a bit, but...

Weighted Wide Grip Pullups: 45x8, 45x8, 45x8
(superset with)
Wide Grip Cable Pulldowns: 150x8, 150x8, 150x8

Bent Over Rows: 135x10, 175x8, 195x6, 205x4 (10lb increase)

BB Shrug: 275x8, 315x6, 315x6, 225x10 (40lb increase)

Seated Narrow Grip Cable Rows: 160x10, 200x8, 210x8 (20 lb increase)

Narrow Grip Cable Pulldowns: 140x10, 160x8, 160x8 (10lb increase)

Preacher Curls (including bar): 105x8, 105x8, 115x6

Standing DB Curls: 40x10, 50x8, 50x8

Standing BB Reverse Curls: 80x8, 80x8

Comments: Starting to feel the strength gains... it feel awsome!!! I entered my "savage state" after the first or second set and form there it was just pure brolicness. Today for some reason I was sweating all over... kinda odd bc i never really sweat, but w/e. I was checking myself out today in the mirror, no homo, and Am deff starting to see a change. The new weight I gained is transforming from initial bloat into muscle and its noticeable. Tomorrow is the last day of week 2, and wednesday I start p-mag at 50mg. Cant wait to see what the next few weeks bring!

Sides: nothing new, nothing less

Diet
Meal 1 (9:30am): waffles- 500 cals/ 10g protein
Yogurt- 150 cals/ 7g protein
O.J- 100 cals/ 0g protein

Meal 2 (11:30am): Apple juice- 100cals/0g protein
Turkey/swiss sandwich- 600 cals/ 35g protein
Chips- 150 cals/ 5g protein

Meal 3 (2:00pm): Yogurt w/fruit- 250 cals/ 15g protein
Granola Bar- 100 cals/ 3g protein
Protein Bar- 200 cals/ 20g protein

-workout- 3:30pm

Postworkout (5:00pm): Protein Shake- 150 cals/ 25g protein
Honey Chicken Strips- 250 cals/ 15g protein

Meal 4 (6:00pm): Skim Milk- 200 cals/ 15g protein
Chicken Breasts- 250 cals/ 40g protein
Spinach Pie- 500 cals/ 15g protein

Meal 5 (9:00pm): V8 vFusion- 100 cals/ 0g protein
Chicken Breasts- 150 cals/ 30g protein
Skim Milk- 200 cals/ 15g protein
Sweet Potato- 150 cals/ 5g protein
Mandarin Oranges- 150 cals/ 0g protein

Total- 4450 calories/ 255g protein
All in all my diet is improving. Im taking in the same amount of protein as a week ago, but only taking 1 protein shake, and getting my protein from whole food sources. Im officially upping my calorie intake to 4500 and protein intake to 275-300g from now on, to adjust to my gains, and to push more gains.

Chest/tris/abs tomorrow!!!:unitedstates:
 
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Week 2 (Day 7)- Chest+tris
Dosage: M1,4add 120mg
Weight: 186lbs. (+6)... gained a lb since yesterday!

HUGE GAINS!?IN ONE WEEK!?

Workout
Bench Press: 225x8, 245x6, 255x6 (20lb increase!!!)
-abs-

Incline BB Bench: 135x10, 175x8, 205x6, 235x5 (40 lb increase!?!?)

Decline Cable Flys: 50x10, 70x8, 80x8 (20lb increase)

Decline BB Bench (didnt have hammer machine): 185x10, 185x8, 135x8
(superset with)
DB Incline Flys: 40x8, 35x8, 35x8 (5lb increase)

Tris- added in for lost arm day
Skull Crushers: 95x10, 105x8, 115x8

Rope Cable Pulldowns: 100x10, 100x8, 90x8
(superset with)
Dips To Failure: 22, 15, 12

Comments: WOW. amazing day, I wasnt feeling 100%, didnt have a lot of energy but somehow pulled off a great workout. Bench went up 20 lbs. Incline bench went up 40 lbs? ... damn. I can vividly remember last chest day struggling on puttin up 195, and today the struggle was at 235. needless to say things are workout out great. I gained another pound, to 186, and am looking leaner then last week. The arms portion, like yesterday was slacking a bit, doing the same weight as last week. im sure thats just bc it followed a massive chest workout though, as opposed to having there own fresh day. Taking tomorrow off, and also dosing in 50mg of p-mag... soooo thursdays deadlifts should be a fun time!!

im to tired ill put the diet from today up in the am...
 
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That a boy, congrats brother. Glad to see you are gaining some weight on it too. I am up only 6 lbs but my strength and size is up quite a bit. My girlfriend made the comment last night after not seeing me for 2 days that my waist looks a lot thinner. Thes best part is you and I both still have weeks of gains left!!!!! Keep it up and smash those plates!
 
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That a boy, congrats brother. Glad to see you are gaining some weight on it too. I am up only 6 lbs but my strength and size is up quite a bit. My girlfriend made the comment last night after not seeing me for 2 days that my waist looks a lot thinner. Thes best part is you and I both still have weeks of gains left!!!!! Keep it up and smash those plates!
hell yea man! its so exciting, and your right the best is yet to come... for both of us:AR15firing:
 
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Week 3 day 1- off
first time taking p-mag. taking this many pills on schedule sucks! im deff going to **** up the doses soon lol. Idk if it was from the added p-mag but i was on edge all day kida pissed off and out of it. My diet was also shotty, its 8 and im only at 2700 cals... even though i have plenty of time to get it back up.
anyones appetite ever get weird right as you add in another compound? i wouldnt be surprised if that was the reason

hams/DL tomorrow... im hoping for some nice numbers!
 

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