- 12-12-2009, 08:40 AM
- 12-12-2009, 10:02 AM
12-12-2009, 12:50 PM
12-12-2009, 05:01 PM
It's simply not true that ANY steroid can produce gyno. Show me a case of Anavar causing gyno, or winny. However, some non-aromatizing steroids can nevertheless produce gyno (probably) because they suppress SHBG too much, freeing up the body's own estrogen (and testosterone, which can then aromatize). It's been repoted often enough that Epi produces gyno in certain sensitive individuals that I suspect that Epi also has this characteristic of being a strong SHBG supressing agent.
12-12-2009, 06:58 PM
12-12-2009, 07:11 PM
12-12-2009, 07:13 PM
12-12-2009, 07:26 PM
12-12-2009, 08:30 PM
12-13-2009, 02:03 AM
I'm not advocating running Anavar or Winny without a proper PCT; but the question was whether ANY steroid can cause gyno--and no, not any steroid has the potential to cause gyno. A proper PCT is necessary after ANY steroid in order to restore the functioning of the HPTA, not because ANY steroid can cause gyno.
I agree that Halodrol is a good starter compound and pretty mild.
I'm using Protodrol right now with EPI. I'm only about 2 1/2 weeks into the cycle, so I'll reserve judgement for a while, but so far I'm pretty impressed with the Protodrol; very nice strength gains, and a certain aggressiveness. I'm a little surprised by it as I was under the impression that it was a milder "cutting" compound, but I think this could be very effective as a strength compound added to a bulking cycle.
12-13-2009, 05:07 AM
I hesitate between protodrol and halodrol.
I will take reverstisol during the cycle and after the cycle like pct.
it is possible to have a gyno with halodrol?
Thank you for your answers.
12-13-2009, 09:34 AM
12-13-2009, 10:12 AM
H-drol generally seems to have a lower case of gyno reported among users compared to Epi/Havoc if im not wrong.
We really need more discussions on the SHBG/Estrogen on cycle on this board. Wish i paid more attention in science class now lol. But yeh h-drol is mild, milder than Epi as most would agree. As pembroke says use the Resveratrol just for your PCT but dont forget to keep a serm on hand before you start your cycle. Not worth risking things if your not sure how your body will react to any hormone you take.
12-13-2009, 12:39 PM
12-13-2009, 01:04 PM
what do you think of 3 AD?
What are the sides effects possible with 3 Ad?
After your answer, I think to make a cyle 3AD/mass fx!
Do I get a lot strength?
12-13-2009, 11:44 PM
You won't see nearly the gains, but I don't think their are any side effects at all from the mass fx because its only a testosterone booster of some sort.
12-13-2009, 11:50 PM
can also upregulate estrogen receptors due to lack of estrogen with nonaromatizing compounds which can possible lead to gyno
12-14-2009, 04:28 PM
12-14-2009, 04:35 PM
12-14-2009, 04:52 PM
12-14-2009, 05:16 PM
I am plaining to take epistane as long as possible as DR.D preferred the pulse cycle with less negative long and short side effects!
12-14-2009, 05:19 PM
12-14-2009, 06:14 PM
I never have gotten gyno before but I did have a small painful hard lump underneath my right nip from M1t and after 2 weeks in a pulsing cycle of epistane it is gone. No pain either.
12-14-2009, 07:54 PM
12-15-2009, 04:52 PM
what is the best product between epistane and S-stane?
it is possible to have gyno with epistane on pulsing cycle 3days/week?
I will take reverstisol during the off days!
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