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  1.  12-12-2009  07:40 AM
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    Cool epistane


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    it is possible to have a gyno with epistane?



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    Yes, it is possible to develop gyno with just about every PH/AAS/DS

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    Any steriod can cause gyno.
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    It's simply not true that ANY steroid can produce gyno. Show me a case of Anavar causing gyno, or winny. However, some non-aromatizing steroids can nevertheless produce gyno (probably) because they suppress SHBG too much, freeing up the body's own estrogen (and testosterone, which can then aromatize). It's been repoted often enough that Epi produces gyno in certain sensitive individuals that I suspect that Epi also has this characteristic of being a strong SHBG supressing agent.


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    what do you think of protodrol?

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    Originally Posted by crowbar46 View Post
    It's simply not true that ANY steroid can produce gyno. Show me a case of Anavar causing gyno, or winny. However, some non-aromatizing steroids can nevertheless produce gyno (probably) because they suppress SHBG too much, freeing up the body's own estrogen (and testosterone, which can then aromatize). It's been repoted often enough that Epi produces gyno in certain sensitive individuals that I suspect that Epi also has this characteristic of being a strong SHBG supressing agent.


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    With proper pct some are far less likely to cause it. I would not run either Anavar or Winny without a pct.
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    Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    what do you think of protodrol?
    I do not know enough about it to give you a good opinion.
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    and halodrol?

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    Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    and halodrol?
    Good starter compound fairly mild and you can make some good gains. Make sure you have good supps and a pct lined up.
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    I'm not advocating running Anavar or Winny without a proper PCT; but the question was whether ANY steroid can cause gyno--and no, not any steroid has the potential to cause gyno. A proper PCT is necessary after ANY steroid in order to restore the functioning of the HPTA, not because ANY steroid can cause gyno.

    I agree that Halodrol is a good starter compound and pretty mild.

    I'm using Protodrol right now with EPI. I'm only about 2 1/2 weeks into the cycle, so I'll reserve judgement for a while, but so far I'm pretty impressed with the Protodrol; very nice strength gains, and a certain aggressiveness. I'm a little surprised by it as I was under the impression that it was a milder "cutting" compound, but I think this could be very effective as a strength compound added to a bulking cycle.


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    I hesitate between protodrol and halodrol.
    I will take reverstisol during the cycle and after the cycle like pct.
    it is possible to have a gyno with halodrol?

    Thank you for your answers.

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    Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    I hesitate between protodrol and halodrol.
    I will take reverstisol during the cycle and after the cycle like pct.
    it is possible to have a gyno with halodrol?

    Thank you for your answers.
    Do not take Resversitol during your cycle. Just use it as a pct. H-drol is not known to cause gyno in most cases.
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    H-drol generally seems to have a lower case of gyno reported among users compared to Epi/Havoc if im not wrong.

    We really need more discussions on the SHBG/Estrogen on cycle on this board. Wish i paid more attention in science class now lol. But yeh h-drol is mild, milder than Epi as most would agree. As pembroke says use the Resveratrol just for your PCT but dont forget to keep a serm on hand before you start your cycle. Not worth risking things if your not sure how your body will react to any hormone you take.

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    Mass fx is it a good alternative to prohormone?

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    what do you think of 3 AD?
    What are the sides effects possible with 3 Ad?
    After your answer, I think to make a cyle 3AD/mass fx!
    Do I get a lot strength?

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    Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    Mass fx is it a good alternative to prohormone?
    If you really need to ask these questions then you're probably not ready for prohormones anyway. But anyway, good alternative...

    You won't see nearly the gains, but I don't think their are any side effects at all from the mass fx because its only a testosterone booster of some sort.

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    can also upregulate estrogen receptors due to lack of estrogen with nonaromatizing compounds which can possible lead to gyno

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    last question, what will ph cause more sides effects between superdrol and epistane?

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    Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    last question, what will ph cause more sides effects between superdrol and epistane?
    superdrol, by far

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    Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    last question, what will ph cause more sides effects between superdrol and epistane?
    Not even close SD by far.
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