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  1. You need to give your body time to rest and get its own balance back. Most just keep pumping chemicals in to their body thinking it will help - no. The human body is smart, and if given the proper respect and time, anything is possible in terms of healing. I am not saying that your gyno will simply, "Go Away," rather it may reduce the signs/appearance of such. But hey, if you want to screw your endocrine system up for life, go for it. Thinking a steroid will cure gyno isn’t too smart. I don’t care what the write-up states. It’s rubbish.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by grigs View Post
    i didin't think run for no longer than 8weeks any way, but i have to i stop on 7and half week.. i k'now i k'now it is long run, but i did it and i'm a live in it? lol
    after new year i will try 12week epi pulse 20mg/day 3days per week,for gyno reduction, and i hope i will not get that horrible acne..
    Just keep in mind that Epi is not recommened for gyno removal. I would try the letro 1st. I would never recommend a steriod pulse or not for gyno purposes.
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  3. You might want to try something natural for reducing your gyno. I have a hard knot under my right areola. I got it from using fenugreek in conjunction with a heavy natty test stack. I have stopped the fenugreek and all other hormonal supplementation except Diesel Test Hardcore and the tenderness is gone and my gyno is slowly dissipating. I also plan on a 12 week episteme pulse cycle this summer. I will pulse three days a week for two weeks with a two week break and then cycle again for twelve weeks beginning in May. This will take me through the summer and help with recomp. This is how Dr. D recommends pulsing for limited side effects. I will be using DTHC on off days and I will use formestane for 4 weeks at the end of the cycle for good measure. I have done a ton of research on Epistane and at 60 years of age I believe this to be a safe and effective cycle.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    You might want to try something natural for reducing your gyno. I have a hard knot under my right areola. I got it from using fenugreek in conjunction with a heavy natty test stack. I have stopped the fenugreek and all other hormonal supplementation except Diesel Test Hardcore and the tenderness is gone and my gyno is slowly dissipating. I also plan on a 12 week episteme pulse cycle this summer. I will pulse three days a week for two weeks with a two week break and then cycle again for twelve weeks beginning in May. This will take me through the summer and help with recomp. This is how Dr. D recommends pulsing for limited side effects. I will be using DTHC on off days and I will use formestane for 4 weeks at the end of the cycle for good measure. I have done a ton of research on Epistane and at 60 years of age I believe this to be a safe and effective cycle.
    wow, that pulse seems very interesting, wanna find someone else who's finished it and see how it went already haha.

  5. for a pulse three days a week,after two weeks must I to do two weeks break?

  6. for a pulse three days a week with H-drol,after two weeks must I to do two weeks break?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    for a pulse three days a week with H-drol,after two weeks must I to do two weeks break?
    No you do not take a break during the pulse. I am not sure how effective a h-drol pulse will be.
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  8. Eh, H-Drol pulse. There's no point in that. Someone needs to do more research on the chemical in question. Also, skip the f*cking pulse theory and just run the damn thing straight (after you research it and have everything you need prior to beginning). If you're going to run it, RUN IT. Hormonal rollercoaster... no way.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Eh, H-Drol pulse. There's no point in that. Someone needs to do more research on the chemical in question. Also, skip the f*cking pulse theory and just run the damn thing straight (after you research it and have everything you need prior to beginning). If you're going to run it, RUN IT. Hormonal rollercoaster... no way.
    true dat. H-drol won't shut u down. run it good.

  10. H-drol is Milder than epistane?
    H-drol is Possibly the most mild of the designers!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    H-drol is Milder than epistane?
    H-drol is Possibly the most mild of the designers!
    but it still gives results.. so run it.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Ju1cedUp View Post
    true dat. H-drol won't shut u down. run it good.
    i disagree....any ph will shut you down....you putting exogenous androgens in your body....its negative feedback

    ive seen bloodwork where its shuts you down

  13. Quote Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    for a pulse three days a week,after two weeks must I to do two weeks break?
    No, you can do a continous pulse but the side effects will be greater.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    No you do not take a break during the pulse. I am not sure how effective a h-drol pulse will be.
    This method is recommended by Dr. D in order to avoid side effects and the need for PCT.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    This method is recommended by Dr. D in order to avoid side effects and the need for PCT.
    I respect Dr D big time. Yes you will have less sides but you will not get much in gains this way. As IronLungz stated your just putting you hormones through a roller coster ride.
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  16. I'm definitely not an expert in this area but his explanation of the development of this system many years ago by hospital doctors in order to take advantage of the benefits of hazardous drugs while limiting the potential side effects, seems very credible to me.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by grigs View Post
    i have lumps under my both nipples, how this sound to you???
    Lumps under the nipples are common in men who do not even use steroids. It also does not constitute gyno unless you have actual mammary gland tissue growth. Do you have man boobs? Those lumps you can have removed surgically easily if thats all you have. If you do have actual breast enlargement, I feel sorry for you and you should seek medical help. What kind of acne made you stop? Papules, nodes , cysts? You should know that all drugs and their side effects are patient specific. They all effect us differently. Acne as a side effect is pretty common with steroids and to me, a pretty mild side effect.So after an 8 week cycle of Epi you got bad acne compared to a 4 week SD cycle. Thats an unfair comparison 1. because the cycles were run for different lengths and 2.You have not stated what your blood work was like before and after either of them, you are only basing that on the superficial.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by spartan300 View Post
    i disagree....any ph will shut you down....you putting exogenous androgens in your body....its negative feedback

    ive seen bloodwork where its shuts you down
    h-drol will rarely make it hard to get ur junk up, or ever need a extreme pct. Shutdown is always to a point, but people recover very easily from ph's like h-drol.

  19. and what do you think Mass Fx?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    and what do you think Mass Fx?
    i have a friend who used that with great success once, its a top test booster in my opinion.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by athletor View Post
    and what do you think Mass Fx?
    It is a good test booster but not a PH.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Blacktail View Post
    Lumps under the nipples are common in men who do not even use steroids. It also does not constitute gyno unless you have actual mammary gland tissue growth. Do you have man boobs? Those lumps you can have removed surgically easily if thats all you have. If you do have actual breast enlargement, I feel sorry for you and you should seek medical help. What kind of acne made you stop? Papules, nodes , cysts? You should know that all drugs and their side effects are patient specific. They all effect us differently. Acne as a side effect is pretty common with steroids and to me, a pretty mild side effect.So after an 8 week cycle of Epi you got bad acne compared to a 4 week SD cycle. Thats an unfair comparison 1. because the cycles were run for different lengths and 2.You have not stated what your blood work was like before and after either of them, you are only basing that on the superficial
    i don't k'now what acne it was, but it was on neck, legs, arms, face, belly, and mostly on back and big spots, i even have scars now..
    who cares its fair or unfair, i just said what ive got from it..

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I'm definitely not an expert in this area but his explanation of the development of this system many years ago by hospital doctors in order to take advantage of the benefits of hazardous drugs while limiting the potential side effects, seems very credible to me.
    Really? By real doctors? If that's the case, why is it just limited to the world of oral steroid use? I can't find any pharm drugs that have this theory for use to limit sides.
    Seriously, it's just my opinion. I've been against it since the day I read it. Make your own opinion - because that's all it is.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Really? By real doctors? If that's the case, why is it just limited to the world of oral steroid use? I can't find any pharm drugs that have this theory for use to limit sides.
    Seriously, it's just my opinion. I've been against it since the day I read it. Make your own opinion - because that's all it is.
    You have not looked very hard my friend. It is quite well known and is being researched for use in antibiotics. I have stolen these links from another post but knew of pulsing from before Dr.D , although in his pulsing thread he mentions where he first got his idea from.
    http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/re...68/12/1449.pdf

    http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.or g/cgi/reprint/37/3/282.pdf

    www.doosesyndrome.com/treatingmae/steroids.htm

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1003439/

    http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...25240902895972

  25. Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    You have not looked very hard my friend. It is quite well known. I have stolen these links from another post but knew of pulsing from before Dr.D , although in his pulsing thread he mentions where he first got his idea from.

    http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/re...68/12/1449.pdf

    http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.or g/cgi/reprint/37/3/282.pdf

    www.doosesyndrome.com/treatingmae/steroids.htm

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1003439/
    I've read some of those, as well as a few others. There again, in my opinion, I do not like the theory.

  26. I-Force h-drol is a clone of halodrol 50

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I've read some of those, as well as a few others. There again, in my opinion, I do not like the theory.
    Fair enough.We are all entitled. I have run both kinds of cycles and can say IMO that I am a believer.

  28. I-Force h-drol is a clone of halodrol 50 ?

  29. sorry, competitive edge labs H-drol is a clone halodrol 50?
    is it a good product?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    You have not looked very hard my friend. It is quite well known and is being researched for use in antibiotics. I have stolen these links from another post but knew of pulsing from before Dr.D , although in his pulsing thread he mentions where he first got his idea from.
    http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/re...68/12/1449.pdf

    http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.or g/cgi/reprint/37/3/282.pdf

    www.doosesyndrome.com/treatingmae/steroids.htm

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1003439/

    http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs...25240902895972
    Do these other drugs your talking about put your hormones on a roller coaster?
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