results from the FDA supplement tests for the BB.com Raid so far.

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Liftingstud View Post
    everyone knew dymeth was SD... just 2 linked together by a "whatever its called bond."

    but look apparently Hyperdrol X2 had 4AD... no wonder why the HDX2 and MassFX seemed to work well... kinda reminds me of org JW by ALRI... and what happen to AX section here? disapeared???
    The only thing was that the reps said that it was not the same as SD due to the double bond. It was touted as a safe alternative to SD with no similar side effects.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by MHA View Post
    While I'm no expert they may just be off, like when the first looked at tren. They didn't know sh!t about it. May be the saw it has a close chem structure so the just listed it as that

    IDS is shady but I don't think that about iforce. They have a great fallowing at BB.com
    They could have had some issues testing what these products actually were, but, they did their job. They tested correctly enough of the products to sway "judgment" in their favor.

    Remember, in today's society, if a person is correct 70% of the time, he/she is a genius....
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    AX is taking cover........

    hyperdrol is 4ad?

    WTF?
    yeah check it out... AX is gone from the supplement company section... also on their forum looks like they are pulling HDx2 and SX, but not saying much at all about it... probably advised by lawyers... hmmm????

    and as was mentioned above i bet 6bromo tests as an andro metabolite and so dose 1,4ad so that way its listed at 4AD, just my thoughts though.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Epi's there. I'm assuming that 6-bromo cues a false positive for andro.
    I'm pretty sure that the production of 6-bromo results in a small percent of 4-ad. I could be wrong though, I'm no chemist...

  5. So the question remains, should we stock up on these products? What does everyone think?
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  6. I did...

  7. interesting

    id like to know the %s of the compounds found in each product eg trace amounts or fully fledged ando in the 6br

  8. Where have you been? If you look for most things right now, you will notice that it is very thin in regards to stock.
    Quote Originally Posted by juice3320 View Post
    So the question remains, should we stock up on these products? What does everyone think?
  9. Agreed


    Everything is getting low, Including havoc of which i wanted to order some more of.

  10. Here's the [email protected] whos in charge of all this Sh!t and trying to save our glorious country from those awful steroids.......



    Eat Clean. Train Dirty.

  11. so have we heard the verdict yet with all of these brands?? Should i be stocking up right now???
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  12. interesting

  13. Sorry bro. It was a dumb question. I was just wondering what the verdict and conclusion of all this is as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Where have you been? If you look for most things right now, you will notice that it is very thin in regards to stock.

  14. It amazes me that our society thinks anything anabolic is bad.If they went after the drug trade as hard maybe,there would not be so many in prisons,crime would go down and there would be less families busted up from drug addictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willib View Post
    It amazes me that our society thinks anything anabolic is bad.If they went after the drug trade as hard maybe,there would not be so many in prisons,crime would go down and there would be less families busted up from drug addictions.
    If they went after this like they do with the drug trade, we'd all have SWAT teams busting in our doors and shooting our dogs to grab the guys with a couple bottles while the manufacturers were allowed to run unchecked.

  16. Most of b.b. community are trying to develope our bodies for the better,health,looks,strength,e tc.,not harm society.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by willib View Post
    It amazes me that our society thinks anything anabolic is bad.If they went after the drug trade as hard maybe,there would not be so many in prisons,crime would go down and there would be less families busted up from drug addictions.

    the supplement companies should not have lied. they are the real scum here.

  18. I wonder if they know that if they take this off the shelf it will be another huge hit to the economy...haha great

    Quote Originally Posted by willib View Post
    Most of b.b. community are trying to develope our bodies for the better,health,looks,strength,e tc.,not harm society.

  19. This is a copy of the email l sent to the FDA the email address is [email protected] send them your opinion of their stupidity. Here is the email l sent;

    Great so instead of cleaning up the tobacco industry and the fast food
    industry which are the 2 main reasons your country has health care
    problems you go after the health food industry and target bodybuilding
    supplements. WHAT A MAJOR FAILURE OF YOUR RESOURCES . When are going
    to do something that will really make a difference when you stop
    pandering to the tobacco companies and fast food companies.
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  20. It's all about politics and reputation. It's never actually about common sense. The general public loves fast food and tobacco and a number of other things that cause major problems. However, one thing the uneducated public does not approve of is PH/AAS and all things eluding to this. This is due to lack of education and the ignorant opinions of the media. I do agree that kids getting their hands on this stuff is a problem; however, go out on a friday night and look at what the majority of kids are doing. They are not popping superdrol or 1-AD, they are smoking cigs and pot and drinking alcohol and maybe worse while eating fast food for their "munch fest". I'm sorry but a lifetime of Mcdonalds hamburgers is going to do alot more damage than PH/AAS will do anyday if used correctly in an educated manner. Even on the documentary "Supersize Me" it stated that Mcdonalds is so nutrient difficient that 1-2 straight months of eating this for every meal would most certainly kill an individual from malnutrition. Hope that these facts are considered Tuesday in the hearing.

    Quote Originally Posted by MC Gun View Post
    This is a copy of the email l sent to the FDA the email address is [email protected] send them your opinion of their stupidity. Here is the email l sent;

    Great so instead of cleaning up the tobacco industry and the fast food
    industry which are the 2 main reasons your country has health care
    problems you go after the health food industry and target bodybuilding
    supplements. WHAT A MAJOR FAILURE OF YOUR RESOURCES . When are going
    to do something that will really make a difference when you stop
    pandering to the tobacco companies and fast food companies.
    --

  21. Quote Originally Posted by dpfisher View Post
    If they went after this like they do with the drug trade, we'd all have SWAT teams busting in our doors and shooting our dogs to grab the guys with a couple bottles while the manufacturers were allowed to run unchecked.
    You are absolutely correct...I do not understand why others do not see this....

    Apparently, a few have not lived in areas where government officials come after drug criminals. It is not a pretty site. And, this raid on BB is NOTHING compared to those raids...people actually get coffined.
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  22. This is very true. However, those raids make much more sense than this one does no matter what the scale it is on IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    You are absolutely correct...I do not understand why others do not see this....

    Apparently, a few have not lived in areas where government officials come after drug criminals. It is not a pretty site. And, this raid on BB is NOTHING compared to those raids...people actually get coffined.

  23. If they are truly harmful they should not be on the shelves.I would like to see real evidence,not propaganda from big Pharma and congressmen who don't have a clue what they are talking about.Once supplements are banned,think about how much they will charge for prescriptions.

  24. ^x2

    Quote Originally Posted by willib View Post
    If they are truly harmful they should not be on the shelves.I would like to see real evidence,not propaganda from big Pharma and congressmen who don't have a clue what they are talking about.Once supplements are banned,think about how much they will charge for prescriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juice3320 View Post
    This is very true. However, those raids make much more sense than this one does no matter what the scale it is on IMO.
    So it's ok if you use drugs that have the potential to kill you or make some people go crazy because you know what you're doing, but when other people make the same decision with a different kind of drug it's not ok? How do people even get into this mindset? Do some of you truly believe that steroids don't have any effects on anyone besides being magic "gives you muscle" pills?
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