Yes, YES THE PATRIOTS LOSE!! YES!!

**swole210** · 02-04-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

I'm reveling right now! I'll have a more intellectual post tomorrow, but for now I'm lost in the emotion.

I think each and every New England fan deserves this, as they have been unbelievably talkative this year and rightfully so.

which reminds me, to all you Pats fans that were running your yaps............

!!!!

**Highlanda01602** · 02-04-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by swole210

EVERY BODY DID!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

I CALLED IT! WE WOULD MEET THE PATS IN THE SUPER BOWL, AND WOULD RIP IT AWAY FROM THEM, N EVERY ONE AROUND ME THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!

18-1 means... NOTHING!!!

G-MEN 14-6..... CHAMPS!!!!!!

18-1 does not mean nothing.. don't drop down to the 3rd grade level some other have.. conduct yourself like a man.

Did they deserve to win the game? Absolutely not, the Giants were dominant in all 4 quarters of the game with long drives and stonewall defense. Is their season a waste? No, definitly not. Less we forget the crazy records that their offense put up and the stunning first ever 16-0 season. I see it as a dissapointment to the team, but I'm reading too much how it's either ALL or NOTHING for some people. If you can't appreciate what a team can do throughout the entire season, you're a pathetic individual, straight up. Observing from a third-person standpoint, some of you are just nasty. Having rivalries shouldn't turn people into 10 year olds.

Benderzzz · 02-04-2008, 06:41 PM

plain and simple the pats got beat up in the trenches. that was the difference. If you recall both quarterbacks lead their respective teams to go ahead touchdown drives. It just so happened the Giants had the ball with just enough time to seal the deal.
now onto the real question what are the patriots going to do about that old defense.

**Highlanda01602** · 02-04-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Benderzzz

plain and simple the pats got beat up in the trenches. that was the difference. If you recall both quarterbacks lead their respective teams to go ahead touchdown drives. It just so happened the Giants had the ball with just enough time to seal the deal.
now onto the real question what are the patriots going to do about that old defense.

Seau and Bruschi, as effective as they are, are on their final seasons as NFL players. If they had won the Superbowl, I think it would have been a done deal and both would retire. I can't even imagine the amount of pain they must be in however, after letting the Giants drive it literally through them for the win. That sole reason may be enough to bring back both - no one likes to go out on a sore note. Real tough to say however, as they really are some of the oldest players in the NFL (and in one of the most physical as well).

**Trauma1** · 02-04-2008, 08:26 PM

Again my hats off to the giants on a game well played. These frequent statements of "The season meant nothing" crap is just beyond ridiculous. A 16-0(unbeaten) regular season with a slew of records to go along with it is impressive on all levels. There is a reason only one other team went undefeated in the regular season, because it's just about beyond impossible to do week in and out.

The giants won that game on a last minute drive that was impressive. They made some nice plays and got it done in the end. That game certainly could have gone either way in the final minutes. For as bad as the pats looked and played, they certainly kept the game within reach and were ahead 14-10 with 2.5 minutes left.

I'd be willing to bet that most of us will never see their undefeated 16-0 season feat matched again in any of our lifetimes. The pats lost......any given sunday it can happen to everyone and anybody, even the best teams. The giants were the better team in this game no doubt about it, but were they the better team in the season as a whole?....i think not. They were better in the game that meant most though, and as a result they won what means most. The patriots have been there before and will be back there again. You can bet that New England as a team will regroup and continue to be a force to be reckoned with for years to come.

**swole210** · 02-04-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602

18-1 does not mean nothing.. don't drop down to the 3rd grade level some other have.. conduct yourself like a man.

Did they deserve to win the game? Absolutely not, the Giants were dominant in all 4 quarters of the game with long drives and stonewall defense. Is their season a waste? No, definitly not. Less we forget the crazy records that their offense put up and the stunning first ever 16-0 season. I see it as a dissapointment to the team, but I'm reading too much how it's either ALL or NOTHING for some people. If you can't appreciate what a team can do throughout the entire season, you're a pathetic individual, straight up. Observing from a third-person standpoint, some of you are just nasty. Having rivalries shouldn't turn people into 10 year olds.

Ummmm....ok there buddy, settle down! Easy with the calling people 3rd graders and 10 year olds when you are going to go crying about a s*it talking statement!! Of course it was a great accomplishment and no one can take that away from them. I bet if you were to ask the Pats themselves right now, they would also say that it means nothing, but that is just because they are upset. It would have had MUCH more meaning, had they gone all the way. As for some of those records, particularly the highest scoring offense ever, we can also sit here and argue that they ran up the score vs mediocre teams. I made that 18-1 statement for the same reason that every one else does....TO GLOAT A BIT!! ANy body and everybody who wins, GLOATS! PEACE!

Chad · 02-04-2008, 11:28 PM

its really sad that some people are so butt hurt about their team not being the best , that they would root against New England. no matter who your team is, it would have been cool to be able to tell your grandkids about how you saw the 07`Pats go 19-0.
I`m a Bills fan so i root against the Pats twice a year but other than that i dont care.
this is JUST LIKE how people hate on the Yankees. "just cause they are the Yankees."

SAD!

**warnerve** · 02-04-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastone

You guys who are upset about Mercury Morris' comments need to get over it. The bottom line is that THEY accomplished perfection and in the last now 36 years, NO ONE else has. And about the "arrogant"Yankee fans, we're not arrogant just successful and will be again in the near future.

don't get me wrong, it's very impressive that they went undefeated. i just get sick of the way mercury downplayed the pats all season and talked up his team...i feel it's apples and oranges.

**Highlanda01602** · 02-05-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad

its really sad that some people are so butt hurt about their team not being the best , that they would root against New England. no matter who your team is, it would have been cool to be able to tell your grandkids about how you saw the 07`Pats go 19-0.
I`m a Bills fan so i root against the Pats twice a year but other than that i dont care.
this is JUST LIKE how people hate on the Yankees. "just cause they are the Yankees."

SAD!

Touche, but it truely is a part of society. Weird, but just part of it. "Spread the wealth" could be a more confortable way of looking at it, I suppose.

**Highlanda01602** · 02-05-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by warnerve

don't get me wrong, it's very impressive that they went undefeated. i just get sick of the way mercury downplayed the pats all season and talked up his team...i feel it's apples and oranges.

I honestly think the media ASKS him to do that.. I mean some of the things he says just baffles me beyond belief... you gotta have some balls to be able to say somethings like that. Non-football fans are even like.. what!? I actually found it humerous when he said the "any team on any given Sunday can win... except for 72".

Personally, I think the majority of today's NFL teams would absolutely destroy the 72' Dolphins. Modern players are bigger, faster, stronger... and without a doubt smarter. Trick plays were nearly non-existant back then, and a 5-wide open backfield was unheard of. There's the "what-if's" again though...

T-Bone · 02-05-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

YES!!

God, this feels amazing. I was getting so sick and tired of all the fans, prognosticators and pundits claiming how this was the team of destiny. I have never been happier for a single event in my entire life, and I don't feel one bit ashamed about this post. I listened ALL WEEK as nobody gave the Giants a chance, and as people rode Brady like a golden boy. He had an unspectacular game, and the Patriots' season is worth ZERO!!

I don't even like sports and I watched the Super Bowl just so I could route for the Giants!. Hahaha!, I am also so happy that they won.

**warnerve** · 02-05-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602

I honestly think the media ASKS him to do that.. I mean some of the things he says just baffles me beyond belief... you gotta have some balls to be able to say somethings like that. Non-football fans are even like.. what!? I actually found it humerous when he said the "any team on any given Sunday can win... except for 72".

Personally, I think the majority of today's NFL teams would absolutely destroy the 72' Dolphins. Modern players are bigger, faster, stronger... and without a doubt smarter. Trick plays were nearly non-existant back then, and a 5-wide open backfield was unheard of. There's the "what-if's" again though...

exactly, this is why it annoys me so much. here's a tidbit from this- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../SP2AUQAQ5.DTL

"They would kick our (behinds) up and down the field, from one side to the other," said former tight end Jim Mandich, now color analyst for Dolphins radio broadcasts and a popular talk-show host in South Florida. "It would be 38-0 at halftime."

Using raw data, it would be hard to argue his point.

Just start in the trenches. Miami's offensive line averaged 253 pounds. Guard Larry Little, the greatest lineman in team history, was the heaviest of the group at 265 pounds. They'd be blocking a New England 3-4 front of Richard Seymour, Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren that averages 312 pounds.

Fastone · 02-05-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by warnerve

don't get me wrong, it's very impressive that they went undefeated. i just get sick of the way mercury downplayed the pats all season and talked up his team...i feel it's apples and oranges.

The rhetoric and delivery might have seemed harsh but, my impression of what he said was that people were anointing the Patriots relative to perfection way too early.

It seemed very unlikely that the Pats would ever lose but that's why they play. Even with loss, the Patriots statistically had a awesome year but once again David killed Goliath in the end and what Mercury said ends up being right.

**warnerve** · 02-05-2008, 03:40 PM

yeah, i guess it's moot now that the pats lost anyways. the pats can look on the bright side....if anyone ever does go 19-0 they'll have to license it from the pats to market it