[DreamWeaver]

Ok for sleep I am only using G8 never had much luck with peptides and other options are too expensive.

Joints are more about refocusing how you lift. I use more progression and less load than I used to. Technique is extremely important. Shorter rest periods more intensity on endurance, increaed focus are all factors. Mehcanics is the key.

[Ballesteri]

I agree, but don't think I have forgotten Dreams fountain of youth recipes ^^^

Ok for sleep I am only using G8 never had much luck with peptides and other options are too expensive.

Joints are more about refocusing how you lift. I use more progression and less load than I used to. Technique is extremely important. Shorter rest periods more intensity on endurance, increaed focus are all factors. Mehcanics is the key.

So thats the key huh, I feel a bit like Ralphie in A Christmas Story when he finally gets the clue to unlocking the Secret Decoder Ring only to find out answer is to "Be Sure to Drink your Ovaltine"...

[DreamWeaver]

So thats the key huh, I feel a bit like Ralphie in A Christmas Story when he finally gets the clue to unlocking the Secret Decoder Ring only to find out answer is to "Be Sure to Drink your Ovaltine"...

Yah no magic potion well I guess Somatropin works pretty well...

[Ballesteri]

Yah no magic potion well I guess Somatropin works pretty well...

Well I guess if one has a bit of good genetics and a bunch of Dylan Thomas they don't need magic potion anyway...

[DreamWeaver]

Well I guess if one has a bit of good genetics and a bunch of Dylan Thomas they don't need magic potion anyway...

I am a classic Endo so I can gain but staying lean is all about the Thomas...

[DreamWeaver]

Yesterday's Burnage...

Meal 1 (Around noon)
Homemade Salad - Greens, Cucumbers, Peppers, etc, 4 cups	200	10	0	0
Oranges - Raw, navels, 1 fruit (2-7/8" dia)	69	18	0	1
Simple Choice Naturals - Carved Turkey Breast, 16.5 slices	330	6	6	77
	599	34	6	78
Meal 2 (Between 5 and 7 pm)
Homemade Salad - Greens, Cucumbers, Peppers, etc, 4 cups	200	10	0	0
Chicken Breast - Boneless, Skinless 6 oz., 2 breast 6 oz.	480	0	6	96
Strawberries - Raw, 3 cup, halves	146	35	1	3
Regular - Anjou Pear, 3 pear	153	39	0	3
	979	84	7	102
Totals	1,578	118	13	180

[DreamWeaver]

Kicked azz and had my azz kicked, tough reverting back to bb style but that's how it's supposed to work when it stops getting tough, it's time to change up.

WW2: work sets to Form Failure 8-10 reps, second set is a double Drop

Lat pulldowns

Flat db Bench

L-Lateral Raise

Close Grip Bench

Barbell Curls

Squats

Stiff Leg Deads

[MrKleen73]

Nice work Doug, you have been killing it in here.

[PalmFist]

Kicked azz and had my azz kicked, tough reverting back to bb style but that's how it's supposed to work when it stops getting tough, it's time to change up.

WW2: work sets to Form Failure 8-10 reps, second set is a double Drop

Lat pulldowns

Flat db Bench

L-Lateral Raise

Close Grip Bench

Barbell Curls

Squats

Stiff Leg Deads

HST eh?

[DreamWeaver]

Nice work Doug, you have been killing it in here.

It didn't deserve to live welcome back...

HST eh?

Something similar 1 working set the a second working set with a double drop. 3 different workouts instead of just one though. This Chris's warrrior workout. I think it's a improvement on HST, more fun anyway.

[DreamWeaver]

Oh and 15 wheel of death last night, back feels better. 15 is very good especially after not doing it for the last 10 days or so.

[PalmFist]

It didn't deserve to live welcome back...Something similar 1 working set the a second working set with a double drop. 3 different workouts instead of just one though. This Chris's warrrior workout. I think it's a improvement on HST, more fun anyway.

Very interesting. I need something new for next week since Ill be finishing up pct this week. Ive been looking around, might do adjoining groups, push/pull, circuit, hst, not quite sure yet but this looks exciting. I havent done hst in so long but I definitely miss the whole body pump, plus something like this would let me hit legs 3 times a week, and I LOVE LEG DAY

[DreamWeaver]

Very interesting. I need something new for next week since Ill be finishing up pct this week. Ive been looking around, might do adjoining groups, push/pull, circuit, hst, not quite sure yet but this looks exciting. I havent done hst in so long but I definitely miss the whole body pump, plus something like this would let me hit legs 3 times a week, and I LOVE LEG DAY

This definitely supplies more of a pump than HST...

[PalmFist]

This definitely supplies more of a pump than HST...

sounds like it

[MrKleen73]

Yeah that is one bad mofo! I ruined my elbows to where I can't do it for more than a few weeks before my elbow tendinitis kicks in a bit.

[Rahl]

Still kickin' ass in here I see! Progression is looking good Doug.

[DreamWeaver]

Yeah that is one bad mofo! I ruined my elbows to where I can't do it for more than a few weeks before my elbow tendinitis kicks in a bit.

I am ok with my joints on thsi but I have altered a few things, exercises reps etc..

Still kickin' ass in here I see! Progression is looking good Doug.

Always...that's what ass is for ... Kickin !!

[DreamWeaver]

I am ok with my joints on thsi but I have altered a few things, exercises reps etc..



Always...that's what ass is for ... Kickin !!

Well that's not all it's for

[Rahl]

Well that's not all it's for

LMAO!! True that!

[DreamWeaver]

Yesterday's gorgin

Meal 1 (Around noon)
Chicken Breast - Boneless, Skinless 6 oz., 1.5 breast 6 oz.	360	0	5	72
Giant Sports - Delicious Protein Chocolate, 2 Scoop	274	8	4	54
Homemade Salad - Greens, Cucumbers, Peppers, etc, 4 cups	200	10	0	0
Oranges - Raw, navels, 1 fruit (2-7/8" dia)	69	18	0	1
	903	36	9	127
Meal 2 (Between 5 and 7 pm)
Del Monte - Black Beans (Canned), 2 cup cooked	400	80	0	20
Regular - Anjou Pear, 3 pear	153	39	0	3
Beef - Ground, 95% lean meat / 5% fat, patty, cooked, broiled (hamburger), 6 patty ( yield from 1/4 lb raw meat )	876	0	36	129
Iga - Kaiser Bun, 2 bun	340	64	4	12
Bananas - Raw, 2 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long)	210	54	1	3
	1,979	237	41	167
Totals	2,882	273	50	294

[DreamWeaver]

[snagencyV2.0]

^^ oooo sexy

[MrKleen73]

Sure is!

[DreamWeaver]

I have been using the BAA/SAA for over a month now and they are starting grow on me ... or should I say I have started to grow on them.. did you see what I did there.

[DreamWeaver]

Yesterday not such a great burn day, difficult when it's Valentines and have to take he wife out... it goes in the spreadsheet though and what I take on one day I give on another so the numbers always add up.

Meal 1 (Around noon)
Homemade Salad - Greens, Cucumbers, Peppers, etc, 4 cups	200	10	0	0
Pc President's Choice - Solid White Tuna - Albacore - Low Sodium - In Water, 2 can, drained	280	0	4	64
	480	10	4	64
Meal 2 (Between 5 and 7 pm)
Homemade Salad - Greens, Cucumbers, Peppers, etc, 4 cups	200	10	0	0
Strawberries - Raw, 3 cup, halves	146	35	1	3
Regular - Anjou Pear, 3 pear	153	39	0	3
Generic - Chabatta Bread, 1 Roll	220	40	2	6
Chicken Breast - Boneless, Skinless 6 oz., 1.3 breast 6 oz.	312	0	4	62
Clover Leaf - Chunk Light Tuna In Water, 1 can	120	0	1	30
Bananas - Raw, 1 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long)	105	27	0	1
Mp/Generic - Jamaican Beef Patty, 1 patty	210	25	7	12
Kraft - All Natural Peanut Butter (Cdn), 1 tbsp	90	3	7	4
	1,556	179	22	121
Totals	2,036	189	26	185

[DreamWeaver]

Will weigh in today pics tomorrow..

[DreamWeaver]

PX black I am going to leave Kleens comments in blue and add mine in red so we can compare.

Please rate on a scale of 1-5: 1=Strongly Disagree; 2 = Disagree; 3 = Neutral; 4 = Agree; 5 = Strongly Agree
1) This product was a great source of clean energy... (1-5)
I give this a rating of 5, the first time I took it I might have given it a 4, but over the course of the week it seemed like I got more and more energy from it, and not as much was required for the same boost in energy.

I completely agree with Kleen on this point the product does gain strength over time so I will also say 5...

2) This product affected my mood in a positive manner... (1-5) -
I give this a 4.5, I am a relatively happy guy most of the time anyway so I would need a huge increase in positivity to the point of euphoria to give this a 5. However we shall see as life tosses things at me how much of a difference it is really making.

I am going to go up to 5 on this as well this is the one thing about it for me, I react very strongly to PEA ...


3) This product helped control my cravings/appetite... (1-5) -
Okay my rating for this product may be a little different than some. To me PX Black gets a 6 on a scale of 1-5. It makes food an after thought. I find myself reminding myself that it is time to eat, and the best part is whenever I eat, I can not only shove the food down but I can enjoy eating my food. No change in taste or over stimmed stomach trying to constrict and make swallowing the food hard. Just plain old no cravings, but no aversion to eating either. Just the way a diet pill should be, especially for those trying to retain mass while leaning up.

This is where we differ, for some reason I don't get a lot of this from it but I do feel I get some suppression I think that it's only fair to say 3.5 though.

4) This product enhanced my mental focus... (1-5)
I give this a 4 in this area, I agree I do seem a little more focused but I also have ADHD so it can only do so much for me. ;)

Now this is the most important thing for me for the same reason, I have never taken anything that helped more in this department. 5 all the way...focus is very key for me so this is a very important aspect.

5) This product gave me the jitters... (1-5)
1 here without a doubt. I have not even had a hint of the jitters. The second time I took 2 caps I did get a strong rush of energy for a little bit. Strong enough to say I was having a WHOOSH of energy, but even then there was no signs of jitters or trembling.

No jitters whatsoever for me...

6) This product helped me lose weight? (1-5)
I will give this a 4 for right now. So far I feel that this product is definitely helping me with the fat. Ample, appetite suppression and faster metabolism just make the fat come off however I need more time to truly assess how much it is helping, and how much was cutting carbs way down.

It's too early for me to tell I am an maintenance calories we will revisit this aspect after tomorrow's pics so 3.5 for now.

7) I really enjoyed this product and would recommend it to friends and family... (1-5)
Hands down for this one it is a 5, I love this stuff and can't wait to see how well it works continuing on into the 8 weeks of planned use.

Even though I rated a couple things a little lower I still have to say 4.5 for me as the most important aspects are there for me tomorrows pics may bring this up to a 5

[DreamWeaver]

Fuggin utterly destroyed it today and I was lookin fuggin huge while doing it ...

Weighed in at 205 which is 2 lbs up from last week but only 1 from 2 weeks ago. Who the fug cares I'm still fuggin gettin bigger...

WW3: work sets to Form Failure 8-10 reps, second set is a double Drop

Push Press

DB Pull Over

Incline Flies

Reverse Curls

Decline Tri Extensions

Tbar Rows

Leg Ext

[MrKleen73]

Nice work Doug, looks like this is kicking up for you. Can't wait for the pictures and remember to stand in the spot you were in for the last pictures. It definitely had the better lighting.

[DreamWeaver]

Nice work Doug, looks like this is kicking up for you. Can't wait for the pictures and remember to stand in the spot you were in for the last pictures. It definitely had the better lighting.

No problem I stood in between liights instead of right under it. Again size gains should be evident and based on my weigh in I should be a bit leaner too.