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Old 01-02-2008, 10:11 AM  
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Gut Health


This ones for all you stinky guys out there. As well as the protein intolerant and IBS crowd . Probiotics are bacterical flora that dwell in the intestines, allowing the nutrients we ingest to be utilized by the body. Modern diet, stress, and training all compromise the health of the Gut, leading to sickness, gas, indigestion, and wasted nutrients - not to mention contribute to sickness. GUT Health contains a strong, hearty strain of Lactobacillus casei, called KE99. THis university studied probiotic has been shown to:

-Reduces/eliminates protein related GI distress/gas
-Bolsters intestinal membranes, increasing the effectiveness of digestion
-detaches/destroys pathogens
-bolsters immune function
-prevents bowel irritation/helps IBS
-reduces Nitrogen excretion/increases protein absorption

This strain is shelf stable (requires no refrigeration) and enteric coated, dissolved in oil. GUT Health...for Vital Digestion and Optimal Results.
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GUT HEALTH INGREDIENTS/DOSING


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Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 35 or 75

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Lactobacillus CaseiKE-99(Live, Viable Organisms) 1 billion organisms **

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.

OTHER INGREDIENTS: Vegetable Cellulose (Capsule), Extra-Virgin Olive Oil



Standard Recommended Dosing Pattern

As a dietary supplement, take 2 capsules daily for 5 days. Then continue dosing with 1 capsule daily for maintenance of desired effects.



Recommended Dosing For Initial Non-Responders


Now some people may require a more aggressive frontloading approach with gut health to establish the initial intestinal flora balance and maximize its benefits. In these circumstances i would suggest 3-4 capsules/day for the first 5 days, followed by the normal maintenance dose of 1 capsule/daily thereafter to sustain effects.


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Please note, during the loading phase you may experience an increase in flatulence, and minor gastro-intestinal issues. This is the direct result of Gut Health competetively excluding the undersireable bacteria. Once the probiotic bacteria of Gut Health has reached effective colonization within the intestinal tract, these symptoms will subside. This typically can last for the first 5-7 days.

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Old 01-23-2008, 01:58 AM  
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oh ****, I didn't mean to put this here and screw your sticky, I was going to put it in the gut health/ java lather deal page. Want me to delete it, or have the mods cane me?

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oh ****, I didn't mean to put this here and screw you're sticky, I was going to put it in the gut health/ java lather deal page? Want me to delete it, or have the mods cane me?
Don't worry about it. It adds charachter and comic relief to the sticky haha!
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oh ****, I didn't mean to put this here and screw your sticky, I was going to put it in the gut health/ java lather deal page. Want me to delete it, or have the mods cane me?
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I found this study that tested the use of probiotics in treating common cold(rhinovirus), and influenza. More evidence to support one of the many amazing health benefits Gut Health provides:


Vaccine. 2006 Nov 10;24 (44-46):6670-4 16844267
Probiotic bacteria reduced duration and severity but not the incidence of common cold episodes in a double blind, randomized, controlled trial. [My paper] Michael de Vrese , Petra Winkler , Peter Rautenberg , Timm Harder , Christian Noah , Christiane Laue , Stephan Ott , Jochen Hampe , Stefan Schreiber , Knut Heller , Jürgen Schrezenmeir


To investigate the effect of long-term consumption of probiotic bacteria on viral respiratory tract infections (common cold, influenza), a randomized, double blind, controlled intervention study was performed during two winter/spring periods (3 and 5 month). Four hundred and seventy-nine healthy adults were supplemented daily with vitamins plus minerals with or without probiotic lactobacilli and bifidobacteria. The intake of the probiotic had no effect on the incidence of common cold infections (verum=158, control=153 episodes, influenza was not observed), but significantly shortened duration of episodes by almost 2 days (7.0+/-0.5 versus 8.9+/-1.0 days, p=0.045), reduced the severity of symptoms and led to larger increases in cytotoxic T plus T suppressor cell counts and in T helper cell counts.
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when is the best time to take this? I assume first thing in the morning or before bed on an empty stomach.?
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when is the best time to take this? I assume first thing in the morning or before bed on an empty stomach.?
I prefer before bed.
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Here is a very good article that demonstrates the therapeutic effects of probiotic use and the health benefits that result.

Gut Health(Lactobacillus Casei KE-99 strain)utilizes all these probiotic mechanisms of action, and was chosen for its superior ability to adhere to enteric sites within the intestinal tract and produce effective colonization. This allows the 'good bacteria' to exhibit their effect of competetive exclusion of the pathogenic bacteria. The end result is a more balanced bacterial flora creating a healthier more nutrient efficient you.


http://www.calicutmedicaljournal.org/2006/4/4/e3.pdf

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I have a question:

Background- I had a 6pack on friday night (could be relivant)
I felt fine allday saturday and I ate buffet chinese saturday night (cheat weekend ). I woke up in the middle of the night saturday and talked on the big white phone to the porcelain gods and sunday felt hungover and constipated. today (monday) ive had the worst case of the ****s i've ever had(10+ times). mostly liquid if you catch my drift.

question: could it be gut health thats causing the IB ive had today? ive been on this for 2 weeks. did a strong loading at 3caps for 4 days, 2caps for 4 days, then 1cap/day since. should I step back up, or go off the gut health? (or i suppose stay at 1/day and see what happens)?

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I would tend to blame it on the combo of beer and Chinese buffet, which is notorious (MSG, anyone) for setting off GI problems.
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I would tend to blame it on the combo of beer and Chinese buffet, which is notorious (MSG, anyone) for setting off GI problems.
I would have to agree 100% with this cat
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k, so leave the dosage alone then?

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k, so leave the dosage alone then?

thanks.
I would if it were me.
1 per day is good imo. See where you are in a couple more days.
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I have a question:

Background- I had a 6pack on friday night (could be relivant)
I felt fine allday saturday and I ate buffet chinese saturday night (cheat weekend ). I woke up in the middle of the night saturday and talked on the big white phone to the porcelain gods and sunday felt hungover and constipated. today (monday) ive had the worst case of the ****s i've ever had(10+ times). mostly liquid if you catch my drift.

question: could it be gut health thats causing the IB ive had today? ive been on this for 2 weeks. did a strong loading at 3caps for 4 days, 2caps for 4 days, then 1cap/day since. should I step back up, or go off the gut health? (or i suppose stay at 1/day and see what happens)?

thansk
Probiotics and alcohol should not be consumed at the same time because the beneficial bacteria in probiotics may be damaged by alcohol making them ineffective in their intended purpose.



Check out this abstract:Elsevier


This sentence from that abstract says it all:

"Consumption of large quantities of alcoholic beverages leads to disturbances in the intestinal absorption of nutrients including several vitamins. The inhibition of the absorption of sodium and water caused by alcohol contributes to the tendency in alcoholics to develop diarrhea."


Alcohol(ETOH) prevents reabsorbtion of sodium(MSG:which is known in itself to cause significant gastrointestinal issues in some people)and water within the small and large intestinal tract. Your large intestine(colon) in particular is responsible for most of the reabsorbtion of excess water prior to fecal defecation. If this process is disrupted or inhibited in any way, you can end up with diarrhea as an end result. Add MSG's gastric irritant effects and you've exacerbated the whole process. You provided yourself the perfect environment for this to take place.


Many factors in our own lifestyles can influence the status of our own endogenous bacterial flora. Stress, alcohol/toxins, and poor nutrient intake all can contribute to an unstable intestinal environment in which probiotics and their effects can be significatly blunted.


This may or may not happen everytime, but the risk is always there.
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This is another interesting article on Lactobacillus Casei and its effects on the intestinal immune activation/response:

http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/ind...&therow=788275
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I noticed gut health is out at nutra. Is there still plans on making Gut Health in larger quantities ?
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Yep...just approved the labels and it should be completed within 2-3 weeks.
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I just received my Gut Health and am looking to do the loading phase.

What is the optimal way to do this? On an empty stomach?

Should I take one right upon waking and one at bed time?
Or should I just take both at bedtime (for the loading phase)?

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I would take it all at bedtime ESPECIALLY during the loading phase.

/loading phase can cause some increased flatulence at first that you can "clear" in the morning before going out in public.
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I just received my Gut Health and am looking to do the loading phase.

What is the optimal way to do this? On an empty stomach?

Should I take one right upon waking and one at bed time?
Or should I just take both at bedtime (for the loading phase)?

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Gut Health contains enteric coated capsules, so it doesn't matter taking it with or without food. This coating allows the probiotics to reach the intestine intact where they begin to attach and colonize.

Like Dsade said, it's best to take the whole dose before bedtime.
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What are a few signs that the loading phase has been successful?

Also, is gut health affected at all if one eats a high fiber diet (30+ grams a day)?
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Also, is gut health affected at all if one eats a high fiber diet (30+ grams a day)?
During the loading phase you may experience some Gastro-intestinal discomfort. This happens because the probiotic bacteria in Gut Health are fighting for ground in your digestive tract by means of competetively excluding the pathogenic bacteria. After the loading period is over, these symptoms should vanish as the good bacteria take the upper hand within the G.I.tract. This is when all the great benefits of Gut Health begin.


There should be no negative effects on Gut Health if you take in a high fiber diet. If anything, it will assist in regulating a more normal bowel movement pattern.
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I'm on my first bottle and LOVING this stuff, my digestion is better, and I have a bit of a cold but it seems to be going away super fast and i didn't get it NEARLY as bad as the ppl i work with, i think it's because i'm still in the loading phase.

On a side note Dsade you ever considered making a probiotic lozenge for colds? I've heard of such a thing before. I actually bit open a Gut Health cap and swished it around in my mouth then swallowed, may sound wacky but we'll see if it helps, lol
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On a side note Dsade you ever considered making a probiotic lozenge for colds? I've heard of such a thing before. I actually bit open a Gut Health cap and swished it around in my mouth then swallowed, may sound wacky but we'll see if it helps, lol
But let us know how that went for you
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On a side note Dsade you ever considered making a probiotic lozenge for colds? I've heard of such a thing before. I actually bit open a Gut Health cap and swished it around in my mouth then swallowed, may sound wacky but we'll see if it helps, lol
We actually ARE looking at something like this. Probiotics are proving to be VERY effective at killing (and preventing reproduction of) pathogenic MOUTH bacteria. We are looking at making something like either a lozenge or a tooth "gel" to smear in your mouth before bed. Initial studies show that it prevents the bacteria that cause decay and bad breath during the night from proliferating - meaning you can wake up with fresh breath.
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On a side note Dsade you ever considered making a probiotic lozenge for colds? I've heard of such a thing before. I actually bit open a Gut Health cap and swished it around in my mouth then swallowed, may sound wacky but we'll see if it helps, lol
Glad to see you are enjoying the effects chaps. I myself have never heard of probiotic lozenges. In all honesty, i'm not sure the theory would hold a lot of merit overall. The immune boosting properties that are noted from Gut Health are due it taking some of the burden off the Immune system as a whole. This allows it to function more efficiently and effectively. Zinc lozenges are really the only lozenge that i've ever read with studies to back it being effective overall in reducing rhino virus symptom duration. This is due to its properties of inhibiting viral replication.

By balancing your intestinal flora, you help alleviate the immune systems intervention to maintain homeostasis which allows it to focus on other potential pathological threats.

Dealing with a virus(Rhino Virus/Cold Virus) can be tricky. Boosting your overall immune systems response is the key to reducing the duration/severity of a viral illness/syndrome.

Edit: This was in response to addressing the viral component of illness. Bacterial is a whole different story.
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