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  1. Gotta say Arnold and Franco.. bodybuilding went downhill when Dorian came starting all the big guts.

    Don't get me wrong.. the guys today are beasts and deserve the praise for all they've done but it's a disgrace compared to how bodybuilding used to be.


  2. No def Franco is def my all time fave, but Victor Martinez is my fav body builder of this time....
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  3. Yeah Vic and Wolf are tied for my fav right now.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by wrasslin116 View Post
    Gotta say Arnold and Franco.. bodybuilding went downhill when Dorian came starting all the big guts.

    Don't get me wrong.. the guys today are beasts and deserve the praise for all they've done but it's a disgrace compared to how bodybuilding used to be.
    Don't hate on Dorian. Dorian is one of my favorite bodybuilders of all time and in my opinion one of the best ever. It's just a different game nowadays. Dorian dominated an era where the competition was far greater than what it is has been lately or even back in Arnold's day. Don't get me wrong, I love Arnold and without him the sport wouldn't be anything near what it is today. He brought bodybuilding into the spotlight and introduced it to the world. I just personally feel that in Arnold's day it was kind of a one man show. Yes there is a few other greats from that time, but I just feel the Olympia was Arnold's with ease. Hell he even took five years off without serious lifting and competing and came back and one. Nowadays, maybe not this coming year it was kind of the same, it was Ronnie and Cutler. The other guys are monsters, but never really stacked up when put side by side. It seems to be getting much more competitive again though. The aging and retirement of Ronnie and the appearance of Victor last year, and the new up and comers, Phil Heath, Kai Greene, etc, plus the fact that the judges seem to be focusing a little bit more on aesthetics again, which I think is the right direction for the sport. There are finally those guys that can bring the whole package to the stage. The insane mass, symmetry, and while still bringing tip top conditioning. I think bodybuilding is going to be great for the next few years.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post
    Don't hate on Dorian. Dorian is one of my favorite bodybuilders of all time and in my opinion one of the best ever. It's just a different game nowadays. Dorian dominated an era where the competition was far greater than what it is has been lately or even back in Arnold's day. Don't get me wrong, I love Arnold and without him the sport wouldn't be anything near what it is today. He brought bodybuilding into the spotlight and introduced it to the world. I just personally feel that in Arnold's day it was kind of a one man show. Yes there is a few other greats from that time, but I just feel the Olympia was Arnold's with ease. Hell he even took five years off without serious lifting and competing and came back and one. Nowadays, maybe not this coming year it was kind of the same, it was Ronnie and Cutler. The other guys are monsters, but never really stacked up when put side by side. It seems to be getting much more competitive again though. The aging and retirement of Ronnie and the appearance of Victor last year, and the new up and comers, Phil Heath, Kai Greene, etc, plus the fact that the judges seem to be focusing a little bit more on aesthetics again, which I think is the right direction for the sport. There are finally those guys that can bring the whole package to the stage. The insane mass, symmetry, and while still bringing tip top conditioning. I think bodybuilding is going to be great for the next few years.
    well, arnold sorta set foot on something new... (a lot had to do with his personality and what he did for bodybuilding).. then came dorian, well because of his time, the new competition etc, dorian started something too---he was HUGE. from then on it was just big beastly over muscled guts. I think now that ronnie is gone, the playing field is level (cutler CAN and HAS brought a tight, smaller, and more aesthetically pleasing physique but he had to compete with Coleman). Despite my cutler fanatacism (like I said, its got a lot to do with who he is as a person too, not just his physique), I think martinez should have won last year. That just shows that the judges now want to see something bigger and improved from arnold's day, but not the same thing they have been seeing (freak of nature colemans). I think this years O will be a turning point with all the new guys and the similar but very competitive physiques. (similar in that they are not generally all huge and distended.)
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by pudzian2 View Post
    well, arnold sorta set foot on something new... (a lot had to do with his personality and what he did for bodybuilding).. then came dorian, well because of his time, the new competition etc, dorian started something too---he was HUGE. from then on it was just big beastly over muscled guts. I think now that ronnie is gone, the playing field is level (cutler CAN and HAS brought a tight, smaller, and more aesthetically pleasing physique but he had to compete with Coleman). Despite my cutler fanatacism (like I said, its got a lot to do with who he is as a person too, not just his physique), I think martinez should have won last year. That just shows that the judges now want to see something bigger and improved from arnold's day, but not the same thing they have been seeing (freak of nature colemans). I think this years O will be a turning point with all the new guys and the similar but very competitive physiques. (similar in that they are not generally all huge and distended.)
    Yes I agree. I think Victor placing so high last year was a good sign of what to come. I love his physique. He is absolutely massive, but has awesome symmetry and definition. Plus a lot of the new comers also seem to have very aesthetically pleasing physiques. Hopefully this year will be the start of a slightly more aesthetically driven competition. I love seeing the huge guys, Ronnie, Ruhl, Cutler, etc, but I also love those guys that can bring incredible mass along with amazing aesthetics.

    On a side note, pudz have you gotten on stage yet. I know you have big plans for yourself one day in bodybuilding. Just wondering if you've competed yet, out of curiosity?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post
    On a side note, pudz have you gotten on stage yet. I know you have big plans for yourself one day in bodybuilding. Just wondering if you've competed yet, out of curiosity?
    Get on that stage PUDZ!!!!! doit,doit!!!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Get on that stage PUDZ!!!!! doit,doit!!!
    hahah soon soon.

    I havent stepped on stage yet, but this may be the big year for me. Im still young and building the best physique I can before jumping the gun with competition. As I see it I have a time window. This year would be ideal for me to start competing and hopefully be successful, but if for some reason it takes another year to get my physique where I want it before competing then I will take that time. I project a first show before 09'

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post
    Don't hate on Dorian. Dorian is one of my favorite bodybuilders of all time and in my opinion one of the best ever. It's just a different game nowadays. Dorian dominated an era where the competition was far greater than what it is has been lately or even back in Arnold's day. Don't get me wrong, I love Arnold and without him the sport wouldn't be anything near what it is today. He brought bodybuilding into the spotlight and introduced it to the world. I just personally feel that in Arnold's day it was kind of a one man show. Yes there is a few other greats from that time, but I just feel the Olympia was Arnold's with ease. Hell he even took five years off without serious lifting and competing and came back and one. Nowadays, maybe not this coming year it was kind of the same, it was Ronnie and Cutler. The other guys are monsters, but never really stacked up when put side by side. It seems to be getting much more competitive again though. The aging and retirement of Ronnie and the appearance of Victor last year, and the new up and comers, Phil Heath, Kai Greene, etc, plus the fact that the judges seem to be focusing a little bit more on aesthetics again, which I think is the right direction for the sport. There are finally those guys that can bring the whole package to the stage. The insane mass, symmetry, and while still bringing tip top conditioning. I think bodybuilding is going to be great for the next few years.
    I'm not hating on Dorian bro, I'm saying that he's the one that came out bringing the extended guts. He was a great bodybuilder and was a monster, it's just the fact that he's the one that started turning bodybuilders into freaks.

  10. Sergio oliva

    also Dorian, Flex and Arnold

  11. Quote Originally Posted by pudzian2 View Post
    well, arnold sorta set foot on something new... (a lot had to do with his personality and what he did for bodybuilding).. then came dorian, well because of his time, the new competition etc, dorian started something too---he was HUGE. from then on it was just big beastly over muscled guts. I think now that ronnie is gone, the playing field is level (cutler CAN and HAS brought a tight, smaller, and more aesthetically pleasing physique but he had to compete with Coleman). Despite my cutler fanatacism (like I said, its got a lot to do with who he is as a person too, not just his physique), I think martinez should have won last year. That just shows that the judges now want to see something bigger and improved from arnold's day, but not the same thing they have been seeing (freak of nature colemans). I think this years O will be a turning point with all the new guys and the similar but very competitive physiques. (similar in that they are not generally all huge and distended.)
    jay aesthetic? please.

    lol.

  12. Oliva, Yates, Dillet, Warren, Dexter, Wolf, Henry those are my favs. If i had to pick one in this day and age id say im a Wolf fan.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    jay aesthetic? please.

    lol.

    haha yea. I think he had his best look around 2001. If he brought that back then he could compete against the up and coming guys. We will see this year.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by wrasslin116 View Post
    I'm not hating on Dorian bro, I'm saying that he's the one that came out bringing the extended guts. He was a great bodybuilder and was a monster, it's just the fact that he's the one that started turning bodybuilders into freaks.
    Yea I know what you meant. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing this around the same time peptides and GH started making their way into bodybuilding and further pushing the physical limits of size. Especially GH, as you mentioned because we began to see the GH guts.

    Yates = best calves in the history of bodybuilding

  15. Quote Originally Posted by pudzian2 View Post
    haha yea. I think he had his best look around 2001. If he brought that back then he could compete against the up and coming guys. We will see this year.
    2001 probably was his best look, but he had no choice. He had to sacrifice his aesthetics and pack on the mass to try and compete with Ronnie. He knew thats what the judges wanted to see so that is the direction he took.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post
    Yea I know what you meant. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing this around the same time peptides and GH started making their way into bodybuilding and further pushing the physical limits of size. Especially GH, as you mentioned because we began to see the GH guts.

    Yates = best calves in the history of bodybuilding
    thats what i think it is. Arnold and them using GH? i doubt it, maybe a few of them but Yates competed with other mass monsters too....Dillet ring a bell? that guy was huge so competition was on another level by then.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    thats what i think it is. Arnold and them using GH? i doubt it, maybe a few of them but Yates competed with other mass monsters too....Dillet ring a bell? that guy was huge so competition was on another level by then.
    Dillet was ****ing huge. Didn't he compete at 270 or 280.

    It definitely was the beginning of the mass monsters. Think about how much the size of competitors has changed. Arnold is said to have been 6'2" 240. Some of the guys today are competing at 270 and 280 even at heights of less than 6".

  18. Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post

    Yates = best calves in the history of bodybuilding
    mike matarazzo had the most freakish calves ive ever seen...just saying.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    mike matarazzo had the most freakish calves ive ever seen...just saying.
    Matarazzo definitely had some amazing calves as well. They were just sick looking. I'm just a big Yates fan so that's why he gets my vote.

  20. Pro bodybuilding is a joke these days IMO., and I hate to say that cause it's obviously something we here all love. But symmetry, training, genetics these things have be laid to the way side by those who are willing to risk there lives to take ungodly amounts of drugs to achieve a physic that few here would want(well for more than a day or two). That's what separates the pros from the ams these days IMO, Who is willing and can aford to take the most drugs.

  21. Trey Brewer has got some crazy legs. I bet this guy is going to do GREAT.

  22. Depends.
    For all around appearance, symmetry, porportions- Victor Martinez by far.

    For brute size and my absolute favorite-Dennis Wolf

    Old school but still BA and unbelievable-Sergio Oliva. Why haven't I seen Oliva? He was THE bodybuilder at the time! he was HYOOOGE!!! Nervermind I just saw Harlans!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Hate4TheWeak View Post
    Pro bodybuilding is a joke these days IMO., and I hate to say that cause it's obviously something we here all love. But symmetry, training, genetics these things have be laid to the way side by those who are willing to risk there lives to take ungodly amounts of drugs to achieve a physic that few here would want(well for more than a day or two). That's what separates the pros from the ams these days IMO, Who is willing and can aford to take the most drugs.
    x2.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Hate4TheWeak View Post
    Pro bodybuilding is a joke these days IMO., and I hate to say that cause it's obviously something we here all love. But symmetry, training, genetics these things have be laid to the way side by those who are willing to risk there lives to take ungodly amounts of drugs to achieve a physic that few here would want(well for more than a day or two). That's what separates the pros from the ams these days IMO, Who is willing and can aford to take the most drugs.
    Actually if you keep up with bodybuilding you will notice the size monster's have somewhat dissappeared and people like Wolf kind of have a classic looking body.

    BTW Natural bodybuilding recently has been and is really strong.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Hate4TheWeak View Post
    Pro bodybuilding is a joke these days IMO., and I hate to say that cause it's obviously something we here all love. But symmetry, training, genetics these things have be laid to the way side by those who are willing to risk there lives to take ungodly amounts of drugs to achieve a physic that few here would want(well for more than a day or two). That's what separates the pros from the ams these days IMO, Who is willing and can aford to take the most drugs.
    Actually if you keep up with bodybuilding you will notice the size monster's have somewhat dissappeared and people like Wolf kind of have a classic looking body.

    BTW Natural bodybuilding recently has been and is really strong.
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  26. Let me reemphasize what was already previously stated.... Victor RULES!!!

  27. I personally like Melvin Anthony. I don't know if he goes for the big one, but he can put on a good performance.

  28. Frank Zane for most aesthetically pleasing. Lee Priest, Victor Martinez, Branch Warren and Johnny Jackson, but I admire Jackson's strength over his body builder physique.

    If I had to choose a number one, it'd be Martinez.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    Actually if you keep up with bodybuilding you will notice the size monster's have somewhat dissappeared and people like Wolf kind of have a classic looking body.

    BTW Natural bodybuilding recently has been and is really strong.
    True, Ruh's out, Nasser's out, Coleman's out, Dennis James keeps getting bigger and not placing, and the bulkiest top tier guy might actually be Jay. The up and coming champs are pretty aesthetic guys like Martinez, Wolf and Heath.

    Someone mentioned Dave Henry, if he were 5 inches taller, holy $chit, his back has amazing detail and muscle contour.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    Actually if you keep up with bodybuilding you will notice the size monster's have somewhat dissappeared and people like Wolf kind of have a classic looking body.

    BTW Natural bodybuilding recently has been and is really strong.
    I agree some what. But whens the last time symmetry won over moster? And Yes the fact that natural BBing is getting some long over due recognition is personally very exiting for me (and I'm sure you too after reading your siggy) but people love the freaks(unfortunately)!!
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