Putting Sustain Alpha through the test as HCG alternative.
- 03-15-2009, 05:00 PM
- 03-16-2009, 09:08 AM
03-16-2009, 06:40 PM
so 4 days before PCT i get the stomach flu/virus, diarreha non stop, cant eat anything, bloating etc for 3 days! Its been about 5 days now and im introducing solid foods back in my diet but damn i could put nothing in my stomach, even water seemed to go right thru me. I lost almost 15lbs in less than a week, things could not have happened at a better time. Makes me question getting big anymore, i lose weight so easily its not even funny. I was only able to take sustain alpha and 120mg torem for the past 3 days and ive only trained once in the past 6 days. Not good.
03-18-2009, 07:49 PM
turns out i didnt lose that much weight, scale error. Im getting my food back in me now and feeling better but pct blues are coming on.
still no sign of test results........
03-19-2009, 08:41 PM
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03-23-2009, 10:43 PM
Piston can you update the thread on what day you took the test, what compounds you were on..phera right?
I was expecting results sooner. PP,are there any more people trying this experiment? of so please post results and lab work.
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03-25-2009, 11:00 PM
03-26-2009, 09:04 AM
i got test results but i need to have a look at them and update this. LH actually went down. I will update when i get home or within the next day or two.
03-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Why doesnt someone just a get a draw and do a multi-channel. A male hormonal profile is available through LEF at a reasonable price. This would end the ambiguity. Whoops, sorry perhaps thats already been done and we're just waiting for the results to be posted.
03-26-2009, 05:43 PM
LH 0.7 Low LH <0.2 Low
FSH 2.1 ok FSH 0.5 Low
Normal Range (adult male)
03-26-2009, 05:52 PM
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03-28-2009, 12:13 AM
03-28-2009, 09:30 AM
03-28-2009, 05:25 PM
Ill have to buy more HCG instead of Sustain. ohh well, more needles, more fun!
I couldn't imagine the results being that great, as he continues to suppress himself, hes trying to recover. Lets try sobering up with more alcohol!
03-28-2009, 05:41 PM
Well sustain is doing something, for energy, mood, pump. I doubt that its placebo. Too bad you cant get a double blind done, or a before, during and after. Im sure guys have volunteered, you wouldnt need a control group.
03-28-2009, 06:01 PM
03-28-2009, 06:19 PM
I know Eric has been conducting a number of similar bloodwork tests. By having a larger n , it will give us more significant results. Perhaps we will find it can only stimulate the LH/FSH on less suppressive cycles; we shall see.
03-28-2009, 07:09 PM
03-28-2009, 07:40 PM
Yeah, this is only one user who tested at the tail end of a cycle (not our recommended time to start the on-cycle protocol anyway)
Considering the way the second test went, the results may be invalid. Capillary blood will not give the same results as venous blood, so Iím still trying to find out how pistonpump extracted the blood for the second blood test. (he mentioned using a 23g needle)
We have results that are more promising that this test, so we will continue to test in users.
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