Putting Sustain Alpha through the test as HCG alternative.
- 03-27-2009, 04:28 PM
- 03-27-2009, 08:48 PM
sustain alpha does not work as and hcg alternative then?
- 03-27-2009, 11:13 PM
03-28-2009, 08:30 AM
03-28-2009, 04:25 PM
Ill have to buy more HCG instead of Sustain. ohh well, more needles, more fun!
I couldn't imagine the results being that great, as he continues to suppress himself, hes trying to recover. Lets try sobering up with more alcohol!
03-28-2009, 04:41 PM
Well sustain is doing something, for energy, mood, pump. I doubt that its placebo. Too bad you cant get a double blind done, or a before, during and after. Im sure guys have volunteered, you wouldnt need a control group.
03-28-2009, 05:01 PM
03-28-2009, 05:19 PM
I know Eric has been conducting a number of similar bloodwork tests. By having a larger n , it will give us more significant results. Perhaps we will find it can only stimulate the LH/FSH on less suppressive cycles; we shall see.
03-28-2009, 06:09 PM
03-28-2009, 06:40 PM
Yeah, this is only one user who tested at the tail end of a cycle (not our recommended time to start the on-cycle protocol anyway)
Considering the way the second test went, the results may be invalid. Capillary blood will not give the same results as venous blood, so Iím still trying to find out how pistonpump extracted the blood for the second blood test. (he mentioned using a 23g needle)
We have results that are more promising that this test, so we will continue to test in users.
03-28-2009, 07:30 PM
03-28-2009, 09:06 PM
03-28-2009, 10:38 PM
so the conclusion seems to be from the test presented it worked for a natural testostrone booster or pct, if you do hormones and it may be worth doing the last week if your on a short four week cycle and into pct. Okay well thats better than nothing! Thanks for the reviews
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03-29-2009, 06:51 AM
03-29-2009, 08:39 AM
03-29-2009, 08:47 AM
With Sustain as an HCG alternative isnt it recommended to take 5 pumps or something along that line? I was taking 10pumps so that could have been too much. Personally i thought the tests should be ran differently but this is the way Eric wanted to do it. I wanted to use the sustain a little longer and test farther apart instead of the 3 days we did here.
Anyway I still think sustain is a good product i would use it again on or off cycle.
03-29-2009, 02:10 PM
Can you email me the test docs?
03-29-2009, 05:51 PM
i dont have a scanner available but maybe i can mail them to you if you like?
03-29-2009, 06:17 PM
03-31-2009, 09:53 AM
03-31-2009, 10:00 AM
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03-31-2009, 10:08 AM
A larger point that agrees with your statement is that at 100 iu of HCG, what would be used on cycle - a typical 10,000 iu bottle would end up expiring long before you even when through half of it. Now THAT is expensive!
Even at 500 iu/week, in 30 days you use 2000 and lose 8,000 iu. Here I would prefer having SA if I knew it worked.
Is there any theoretical conclusion at least as to the efficacy of SA as an HCG alternative?
03-31-2009, 10:27 AM
hCG can be bought in 5000 IU ampules. But we're getting off topic lol
As for how SA would be a hCG alternative, Eric wrote up a few posts about it, thought there was a thread.
03-31-2009, 12:24 PM
03-31-2009, 05:52 PM
I think there have too many variables with these testers. I propose getting a tester who is in good health with virgin receptors, do a pre-panel, let them use Sustain for a month, then get a post-panel. Simple and definative.
03-31-2009, 06:56 PM
It's hard to concentrate when I can hear your thoughts.
03-31-2009, 07:03 PM
imo you need a better to test it better, 3 days at 10 pumps ED isnt a conclusive dose considering you would use half that normally and for longer periods. Oh well... maybe you could link the other testers that had favorable results with SA for this purpose.
03-31-2009, 09:20 PM
03-31-2009, 10:26 PM
04-06-2009, 12:14 AM
04-16-2009, 09:39 PM
Does Sustain Alpha raise test and increase ball size permanently if you're shut down or just during that the bottle lasts??
My libido is gone from using ssri's and have everything to make it normal again.
04-16-2009, 11:42 PM
I donít know about permanentlyÖ. But it definitely has a lasting effect that carries out past the duration of product use.
In combo with the Toco-8 and EndoAmp Max you should be able to correct the libido issues and get the HPTA back on track for the long term from a 1-2 month cycle.
04-17-2009, 02:42 AM
04-18-2009, 08:56 PM
04-18-2009, 11:47 PM
04-20-2009, 11:34 AM
04-20-2009, 01:43 PM
Hey lets say one were to pulse SUPERDROL M, W, F. If one took DTH and lets say sustain alpha on "off" days, would this help with PCT? Like you said, preloading the week before PCT helps out, so would this help in a pulse?
04-20-2009, 02:07 PM
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