Havoc/Epistane to help with gyno?

**mattiek** · 02-02-2010, 02:04 PM

Ok so after my last cycle of the original Methyl Masterdrol I was fine until about 2 months later. I was young and stupid and didnt run proper PCT, all i ran was the formadrol legal gear advised to run

. Well now i'm stuck with a nickel/quarter sized lump under my right nipple because now i know the proper way to do things rather than the stupid way. Its been there for a while now and i really want it gone because its making me self conscious. So just researching I have seen tons of information on havoc/epistane reducing and perhaps clearing up some gyno.

So my question is if i run a 3 week 20 or 30mg cycle of havoc/epistane followed by a pct of nolva does anyone think i should see a reduction in size of my gyno?

any experience?

thanks for any of the advice!

**A_I_Sports_Nutrition** · 02-02-2010, 02:34 PM

Steriods should not be used to treat gyno it very well can make it worse. Best to consult with a doctor for your best option.

**mattiek** · 02-02-2010, 02:40 PM

Yea i kind of figured that and had the same thoughts myself but more times than not people have reported it helping with gyno and I am just trying to see if anyone on here has had real results.

Nolva just prevents gyno correct? it wont help reduce the size?

**A_I_Sports_Nutrition** · 02-02-2010, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by mattiek

Yea i kind of figured that and had the same thoughts myself but more times than not people have reported it helping with gyno and I am just trying to see if anyone on here has had real results.

Nolva just prevents gyno correct? it wont help reduce the size?

How long have you had this gyno?

**GeekPoop** · 02-02-2010, 04:19 PM

letro will reduce size

**mattiek** · 02-02-2010, 08:30 PM

I know letro will reduce size but i dont want to have the sides. I mean if it end up being the only way ill definitely take it because i'd rather lose libido for 2 months than have this lump forever you know? just kind of curious about this epistane claim.

**OnTheRoadTo** · 02-04-2010, 02:51 AM

While Epi will reduce the size of the mass on cycle, it is unlikely to eliminate it totally, if at all. Almost total estrogen deprivation is needed for that.

google: [A case of advanced breast cancer successfully treated with combined tamoxifen and epitiostanol]

**GeekPoop** · 02-04-2010, 02:16 PM

epistane is a steroid, no use in pct or for treating gyno. dont listen to how it is marketed, it is a steroid.

**A_I_Sports_Nutrition** · 02-06-2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by GeekPoop

epistane is a steroid, no use in pct or for treating gyno. dont listen to how it is marketed, it is a steroid.

AGREED 1000% if you have had this gyno for a while see a doctor.

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