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Dumb Question- If Bush Could Run Again, Would You Vote For Him?

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    Dumb Question- If Bush Could Run Again, Would You Vote For Him?


    ill start!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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    CO...kinda depends on who he's running against, doesn't it? lolol.

    I would "prefer" a better option, yes, but I wouldn't ignorantly vote him out for just anyone.
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    HA otter you ARE crazy.

    Last month I would have said NO Republican can win the next pres election. Then I thought of McCain. I think he would win no matter what Dem he ran against.


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    off topic...but who all would think arnold would be a good president?

    and i would vote nooooo...for bush
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    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER
    HA otter you ARE crazy.

    Last month I would have said NO Republican can win the next pres election. Then I thought of McCain. I think he would win no matter what Dem he ran against.


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    I hate John McCain...the dude has no testicles.

    And I think Arnold would be a good president. Hell, look at some of the idiots we've had in office? At least if we had arnold we'd have someone who has some fortitude.

    But, overall, we're screwed. As long as we have two major parties who won't include any outside competition and have "primaries" where they select who is going to run, we're officially screwed.
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    Yeah, Arnold would make a good prez. I dont know if he'd make a good politician, but he's smart enough to surround himself with the right people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    I hate John McCain...the dude has no testicles.

    And I think Arnold would be a good president. Hell, look at some of the idiots we've had in office? At least if we had arnold we'd have someone who has some fortitude.

    But, overall, we're screwed. As long as we have two major parties who won't include any outside competition and have "primaries" where they select who is going to run, we're officially screwed.

    Completely agree about the parties issue. Two parties being the only ones likely to win just is not a good way to have this country based on. Parties are what were considered to be what would be the downfull of this country. Forgot the paper written on it, one of those written back when our government was just going. (I believe the name of it had a X, 10, in the title.)
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    i would vote for Arnold.
    but back to what kwyck said,
    what if it was Mr.BUSH VS. Mrs.CLINTON?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrAzyOttER
    i would vote for Arnold.
    but back to what kwyck said,
    what if it was Mr.BUSH VS. Mrs.CLINTON?????
    Bush...i'd rather vote for an idiot than a conniving bitch. I hate her. I may put bill back in (so long as he stays away from down-sizing the military again), but I don't trust her with a 10ft pole. Her whole goal in life is power...honestly...what kind of a woman stays with a man who is getting BJ's from all of his interns for the past 20yrs. lol. It comes out publicly and she's like "oh, its okay, no problem....". Their entire marriage is a political marriage, its disgusting to me. Bill..well, i honestly think he's just a perv--and i don't blame him, i'm the same way, lol. Hillary on the other hand...I think she is too crazy, too untrustworthy, and too power hungry.

    I would put kerry in office before hillary, and i voted against hillary. I think the only person I'd put hillary in office before is John McCain b/c he's such a rope-spined *****. At least hillary has a freggin' vertebral column.
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    Never voted for him, never will. If it was Bush vs Hillary, I'd vote for the Libertarian like I always do. A vote for a lesser evil is still a vote for evil. It's the scenic route or the interstate to hell with Republicans and Democrats, no difference in destination. And for me the only wasted vote is one I disagree with.
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    It's the scenic route or the interstate to hell with Republicans and Democrats, no difference in destination.
    Isnt that the whole damn truth! Like mentioned above - the 2 party system is what'd ruining this country. They both have a monopoly on power and are more concerened with beating the other party then they are working for the good of Americans.

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    Too bad libertarians aren't a viable option. It's always just picking the lesser of two evils.
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    Yea I don't think Hillary could win. 20% of dems say they wouldn't vote for a woman. So that means she would have to get a big chunk of republicans to vote for her.

    Not saying I want John McCain just saying he is liberal enough to get some of the dems and is still republican enough to get the republican vote. Thing is he might lose the rep nomination and IMO right now any other republican loses against a dem because of Iraq etc.

    BUT Bush is smart he will have troop size down below 100K before the election. Then again if we attack Iran YIKES . VIVA Republicano


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    yes yes and yes again...
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    It really depends on who he is running against. It's unfortunate that if you don't vote for either Republican or Democrat, you are just throwing your vote away. Say what you wish about the two party system, but it beats the heck out of the way they do it in other countries. (who ever runs against the incumbent comes up missing.....)
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    Doesn`t matter untill the software(voting machine) is fixed. Umm... maybe FIXED isn`t the best word to use here
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    we sould just have another civil war and see what happens. no one agrees with the guy next to him, people HATE other people for thinking differently from them, we have CEO`s of big companies running **** in Washington, drug wars on our streets, babies on crack and fat girls in tube tops. we are all ****ed up. maybe someone needs to roll up on the U.S and change our goverment, like we do to other contries.
    who knows for sure what we need but what we have isn`t working. what ever problems we have as a whole are just passed down from presedent to presedent. nothing ever happens to benifit to people of this contry, not really.
    Washington looks out for the themselfs and for the top 10% of us, cause thats where the money comes from.
    or....... **** it who cares, lets get a beer and watch the playoffs.

    i`ve voted twice since i was old enough to and i dont really think it mattered. i dont really know if ill vote agian, but i love this contry and i love MOST of its people and i think we all sould be able to get behind ONE person and truely be happy with our goverment.

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    against Hilary? Yes. Against John Kerry, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwood
    against Hilary? Yes. Against John Kerry, yes.
    what if Gore ran agian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by delta314
    It really depends on who he is running against. It's unfortunate that if you don't vote for either Republican or Democrat, you are just throwing your vote away. Say what you wish about the two party system, but it beats the heck out of the way they do it in other countries. (who ever runs against the incumbent comes up missing.....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrAzyOttER
    what if Gore ran agian?
    no, I feel that Gore is a disaster. I'm registered Libertarian, but I choose and vote (usually) between the 2 big guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrAzyOttER
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    Washington looks out for the themselfs and for the top 10% of us, cause thats where the money comes from....
    The top 10% won't give any party 50% of the vote, and the top 10% are usually well educated.

    Most of the political targets are joe blow idiot who is too unintersted, too stupid, or a combination of both to actually learn the truth about the person / the party they are voting for.

    They promise people what the want, then don't give it to them, then the cycle repeats.

    We're screwed to at least some degree as long as we have government, but unfortunately, we don't have any other option. IMO one of the most applicable and true of all famous quotes is "Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely"-- Lord Acton.

    We have two parties who have absolute power over this country and who WILL work together to keep it that way, despite working against each other in elections....
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    If it were against Kerry, I'd vote Bush again.
    I don't see any viable alternatives and at least he stands up for what he believes in and doesn't change his policy based on the "poll of the week".
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    didn't vote for him either of the first two times, certainly wouldn't do it again

    sad to see the republican party go so so so far down the ****ter as it has in the past few years
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    didn't vote for him either of the first two times, certainly wouldn't do it again

    sad to see the republican party go so so so far down the ****ter as it has in the past few years
    Its not just the republicans, both of the major parties have got to hell. They've put the parties interests above the nations interests...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Isnt that the whole damn truth! Like mentioned above - the 2 party system is what'd ruining this country. They both have a monopoly on power and are more concerened with beating the other party then they are working for the good of Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    Its not just the republicans, both of the major parties have got to hell. They've put the parties interests above the nations interests...
    I agree.
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    I feel kinda like Ronnie Coleman, "Everybody wants to complain about the USA, but nobody wants to do a damn think to fix it".....Yeah, we have some issues that need to be addressed, but all in all, this is still the best damn country in the world. Instead of everyone bashing, why don't we turn this thread around a little and lets hear what some of you would do to fix some of the problems that we are faced with. Complaints are like a__holes, everybodys got one. (turn your flames on, I can take anything you want throw....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by delta314
    I feel kinda like Ronnie Coleman, "Everybody wants to complain about the USA, but nobody wants to do a damn think to fix it".....Yeah, we have some issues that need to be addressed, but all in all, this is still the best damn country in the world. Instead of everyone bashing, why don't we turn this thread around a little and lets hear what some of you would do to fix some of the problems that we are faced with. Complaints are like a__holes, everybodys got one. (turn your flames on, I can take anything you want throw....)
    The problem is, we really can't fix the problems unless we a) don't allow idiots to vote b) have a revolution from the bottom up, or c) a combination of both.

    I mean, look at it this way. California, for example, is one of the most screwed up states in the US (if not the most). And, nothing can change! One major problem lies in the district lines. Politicians drawn their own lines!!!! So, they can pretty much just trace their loyal areas and never get voted out. And, that's what happens.

    Arnold tried to fix this. But, the unions are so strong in here, they can tell blatant lies about the propositions to the stupid california people, and the people will vote a great, common sense proposition down. And they did! He was giving the job of drawing district lines to retired judges instead of having politicians draw their own lines, and somehow the unions twisted it to high hell and confused the **** out of people and made them vote the prop down. Mostly due to the fact that ITS NOT ILLEGAL to lie in a political add...is that really surprising? when politicians are making the legislation, I don't find it too surprising.

    We're screwed! Only way I could start to fix the US is by making people have to qualify for voting rights via testing. People need to be educated on the propositions they're voting for, and the candidates, etc. That's never going to happen though..if someone ever brought that up all we would hear abou tis "racism and minority disenfranchisement", blah, blah, blah.

    Talking about what we "would" do is almost more useless than bitching about it.
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    Hear is a interesting scenario...with the recent wire-tap scandal coupled w/ the WMD "intelligence", is there a legitiamte chance that Bush will get impeached. I was watching some news program when they discussed the legality of the wire-taps w/o court approval and most said that the act was unconstitutional and illegal. I believe the guy said that Bush cited Article 2 of the Constitution as his justification for his actions, but Article 2 does NOT say anything about the executive branch having the ability to disregard the courts.
    As the saying goes, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutley."
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    But, wasn't this part of the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act? If so, there is no reason for the impeachment because all the douches in congress voted for it.
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    civil war?
    new type of goverment?
    testing to be able to vote?
    let states have more control?

    anyone of them sound ok to me.
    All will prob end up happening someday. prob not while we are alive but just think about when the oil runs out? how about when 50% of the nations out there have WMD and start using them? i dont think our big army and navy and air force can do jack **** about whats going on in the Congo if Canada is trying to take back Alaska for the last few drops of oil left. friendships will break, people will be armed to the teeth to keep out the family from down the street from stealing the 5 gallons of gas out of the car that they paid $4,000 for. all those movies with people flying around in there cars and having robots is a cute thought but when the gas runs out all hell will break loose. oh and what about the big ****ing rock that MIGHT hit earth at ANYTIME? we are all unstable and something big like one of the above will put us all at war with each other.
    Look what happend when the gulf flooded!! thats a really nice wet dream in compairison to a space rock taking out half the contry. they get a lot of rain and the cops quit, people start killing, looting, and rapping. if **** goes down there will be a river of blood flowing all over the land.
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    I still maintain that what happened in New Orleans WOULD NOT happen in many other cities. That place was a ****hole run by retards who couldn't be trusted with potatoe guns. From the govenor to the mayor down to the police force who were busted stealing **** on TV. It was just one big mess there before, during, and after the flooding.
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    testing to be able to vote?
    Great idea.. why should poor, uneducated, illiterate people be able to vote? it's not like they're citizens too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwil
    Great idea.. why should poor, uneducated, illiterate people be able to vote? it's not like they're citizens too...
    This actually would be great if the poor and uneducated were not the same group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskey Steve
    This actually would be great if the poor and uneducated were not the same group.
    What does it matter? They're still casting random votes that can negatively effect those of us who took the time to learn about the initiatives and the candidates.

    Poor people can learn about politics too...its really NOT THAT HARD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    What does it matter? They're still casting random votes that can negatively effect those of us who took the time to learn about the initiatives and the candidates.

    Poor people can learn about politics too...its really NOT THAT HARD.
    What I am saying is that the rich tend to be educted (because they can afford to be educated) and the poor the opposite.
    If only the rich can vote then we will make everything work in our favor......(and i dont mean to say i would do that but we all know very well that that is what would happen.....i happened to be blessed with having slightly wealthy parents)
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    Luckily we don't need rocket scientists to vote All we need are people who may take an hour of their week to read up on waht's going on, and you don't need to be wealthy, have a Ph.D, etc, etc, for that.
  

  
 

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