View Poll Results: 4 more years for Bush? if he could.
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Dumb Question- If Bush Could Run Again, Would You Vote For Him?
- 12-20-2005, 04:54 PM
- 12-20-2005, 11:39 PM
12-21-2005, 12:59 AM
12-21-2005, 06:50 PM
I feel kinda like Ronnie Coleman, "Everybody wants to complain about the USA, but nobody wants to do a damn think to fix it".....Yeah, we have some issues that need to be addressed, but all in all, this is still the best damn country in the world. Instead of everyone bashing, why don't we turn this thread around a little and lets hear what some of you would do to fix some of the problems that we are faced with. Complaints are like a__holes, everybodys got one. (turn your flames on, I can take anything you want throw....)
12-21-2005, 08:12 PM
The problem is, we really can't fix the problems unless we a) don't allow idiots to vote b) have a revolution from the bottom up, or c) a combination of both.Originally Posted by delta314
I mean, look at it this way. California, for example, is one of the most screwed up states in the US (if not the most). And, nothing can change! One major problem lies in the district lines. Politicians drawn their own lines!!!! So, they can pretty much just trace their loyal areas and never get voted out. And, that's what happens.
Arnold tried to fix this. But, the unions are so strong in here, they can tell blatant lies about the propositions to the stupid california people, and the people will vote a great, common sense proposition down. And they did! He was giving the job of drawing district lines to retired judges instead of having politicians draw their own lines, and somehow the unions twisted it to high hell and confused the **** out of people and made them vote the prop down. Mostly due to the fact that ITS NOT ILLEGAL to lie in a political add...is that really surprising? when politicians are making the legislation, I don't find it too surprising.
We're screwed! Only way I could start to fix the US is by making people have to qualify for voting rights via testing. People need to be educated on the propositions they're voting for, and the candidates, etc. That's never going to happen though..if someone ever brought that up all we would hear abou tis "racism and minority disenfranchisement", blah, blah, blah.
Talking about what we "would" do is almost more useless than bitching about it.
12-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Hear is a interesting scenario...with the recent wire-tap scandal coupled w/ the WMD "intelligence", is there a legitiamte chance that Bush will get impeached. I was watching some news program when they discussed the legality of the wire-taps w/o court approval and most said that the act was unconstitutional and illegal. I believe the guy said that Bush cited Article 2 of the Constitution as his justification for his actions, but Article 2 does NOT say anything about the executive branch having the ability to disregard the courts.
As the saying goes, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutley."
12-21-2005, 09:23 PM
But, wasn't this part of the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act? If so, there is no reason for the impeachment because all the douches in congress voted for it.
12-21-2005, 10:12 PM
12-21-2005, 10:56 PM
new type of goverment?
testing to be able to vote?
let states have more control?
anyone of them sound ok to me.
All will prob end up happening someday. prob not while we are alive but just think about when the oil runs out? how about when 50% of the nations out there have WMD and start using them? i dont think our big army and navy and air force can do jack **** about whats going on in the Congo if Canada is trying to take back Alaska for the last few drops of oil left. friendships will break, people will be armed to the teeth to keep out the family from down the street from stealing the 5 gallons of gas out of the car that they paid $4,000 for. all those movies with people flying around in there cars and having robots is a cute thought but when the gas runs out all hell will break loose. oh and what about the big ****ing rock that MIGHT hit earth at ANYTIME? we are all unstable and something big like one of the above will put us all at war with each other.
Look what happend when the gulf flooded!! thats a really nice wet dream in compairison to a space rock taking out half the contry. they get a lot of rain and the cops quit, people start killing, looting, and rapping. if **** goes down there will be a river of blood flowing all over the land.
12-21-2005, 11:38 PM
I still maintain that what happened in New Orleans WOULD NOT happen in many other cities. That place was a ****hole run by retards who couldn't be trusted with potatoe guns. From the govenor to the mayor down to the police force who were busted stealing **** on TV. It was just one big mess there before, during, and after the flooding.
12-22-2005, 12:46 AM
Great idea.. why should poor, uneducated, illiterate people be able to vote? it's not like they're citizens too...testing to be able to vote?
12-22-2005, 12:54 AM
This actually would be great if the poor and uneducated were not the same group.Originally Posted by Jwil
12-22-2005, 12:57 AM
What does it matter? They're still casting random votes that can negatively effect those of us who took the time to learn about the initiatives and the candidates.Originally Posted by Whiskey Steve
Poor people can learn about politics too...its really NOT THAT HARD.
12-22-2005, 01:04 AM
What I am saying is that the rich tend to be educted (because they can afford to be educated) and the poor the opposite.Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
If only the rich can vote then we will make everything work in our favor......(and i dont mean to say i would do that but we all know very well that that is what would happen.....i happened to be blessed with having slightly wealthy parents)
12-22-2005, 01:11 AM
Luckily we don't need rocket scientists to vote All we need are people who may take an hour of their week to read up on waht's going on, and you don't need to be wealthy, have a Ph.D, etc, etc, for that.
12-22-2005, 02:28 AM
It depends on who he's running against.
Against another Ultra Liberal from the Northeast? You betcha....
Against an Ultra-Liberal Carpet-Bagger currently in New York? You betcha
Now, since this is a wild scenario in the first place... who would I like to see?
Condie Rice (I really like her style)
Joe Lieberman (yup I admit it)
John McCain (I'm a moderate democrat myself)
12-22-2005, 02:48 AM
12-22-2005, 08:48 AM
How about John Glenn? I think he would make an excellent President!Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
12-22-2005, 05:16 PM
12-22-2005, 08:33 PM
he was my neighboorOriginally Posted by delta314
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12-27-2005, 01:43 AM
01-09-2006, 02:38 AM
01-10-2006, 12:28 PM
Bush is a great president! I don't care what anybody says, he is getting the job done and nobody is perfect.
01-10-2006, 01:56 PM
I sort of agree except for two points. One, saying what you would do is pointless, you're never going to get to do it. Two, 'doing somthing' to fix one thing or another is what's generally gotten this country so screwed up. Some things I would like to see happen?Originally Posted by delta314
Destroy the Fed, get on a gold standard. Put an end to foreign military escapades that make us assloads of enemies and don't get us anything tangible in return. End all foreign aid, no more investment guarantees for US corporations. End to all welfare and wealth redistribution plans of all kinds. Completely obliterate all of the Cabinet positions and their respective beauracracies except for the DoD. Revamp the DoD so it truly is the Department of Defense and not the Department of Offense. An end to all military aid, withdraw from all foreign treaties. No entangling alliances whatsoever. Although mentioned before in a broad sense, I'd take great pleasure in dismantling the Department of Education, destroying any and all legislation giving any citizen or group of citizens preferential treatment, such as union protection laws, tax exemptions for churches, etc. Privatize all land and use the revenue to pay off any remaining debts to SS recipients, etc. Get rid of almost all environmental regulations, replace ones that aren't too misguided with non-command and control methods such as economin internalization policies. End all forms of taxation, institute one national sales tax. It makes creative economics and government book cooking a lot harder because the cost is directly reflected in people's everyday lives. NO income tax whatsoever for anyone. I would also take great pleasure is ripping the drug war machine apart piece by piece, and taking whoever the drug czar is at that particular point in time and flaying the bastard on live TV. Basically have the government coin money (while I'm at it, screw that too), hunt down pirates and true federal criminals, and maintain a decent stock of arms so we can destroy any military that is a legitimate threat to our country. Leave everything else to the people, and to the states where the people allow them the power.
Just basic ideas. Government is like a case of genital herpes. Once you've got it you're ****ed, but you can work to minimize its impact on your life. And hopefully in the future we'll find a cure.
01-10-2006, 01:56 PM
IMO, nothing is truly being done. I will never be convinced that you could have peace in that area.
I would rather see kids go to college than die in a pointless, ORCHESTRATED war. (just my opinion, please dont agrue with me...i will not debate it)
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