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  1. I don't have issues with "blacks" but I do with the "culture" that Kwyk was referring to in his last post. So what. You have the right to dislike whites who live in trailer parks, do meth and steal metal and calling them "white trash" doesn't defacto make you a racist just like me calling someone a "nigger" doesn't make me one. Anyone who gets offended over words thinks too highly of themselves.
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  2. This guy's my favorite. "I hate crackas! I hate every last iota of a cracka!"

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr View Post
    I don't have issues with "blacks" but I do with the "culture" that Kwyk was referring to in his last post. So what. You have the right to dislike whites who live in trailer parks, do meth and steal metal and calling them "white trash" doesn't defacto make you a racist just like me calling someone a "nigger" doesn't make me one. Anyone who gets offended over words thinks too highly of themselves.
    This is what I've been saying. I'm a culturalist, not a racist.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Nole1 View Post
    Original point still stands - Holder did the wrong thing, but nothing will be done about it. The media hasn't touched this since day 1.

    Just like they haven't touched the fact that that Army kid fresh out of basic was shot in Arkansas, and another was wounded. Yet, they harp daily on the plight of poor Doctor Tillman being shot and killed by a radical Pro-lifer. Both deaths are equally disturbing, but the FACT that the shooting of the Soldiers (who volunteered to serve) on American soil is a terrorist act has gone completely uncovered. NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, etc., have all failed as reliable media outlets to the general population.

    I'll also mention that President Obama made a National remark regarding the tragic shooting of the doctor, but made NO National public statement regarding the shooting death of a soldier who he is supposed to be Commander in Chief for. He had to be contacted by a local Arkansas (Little Rock) station to get comment that was only directed at that community.

    Now he is on Apology Tour II..........how in the world have we fallen into this abyss?
    I don't at all agree with these people killing abortion doctors, but how many doctors have been killed? Isn't it like five? Versus millions of babies. -

    But I digress...I don't agree, yet I don' really care.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr View Post
    I don't have issues with "blacks" but I do with the "culture" that Kwyk was referring to in his last post. So what. You have the right to dislike whites who live in trailer parks, do meth and steal metal and calling them "white trash" doesn't defacto make you a racist just like me calling someone a "nigger" doesn't make me one. Anyone who gets offended over words thinks too highly of themselves.
    Racism is not words, it is built off of ignorance. You can call someone a name, be it, whatever name that is and it will still not be racism by definition. To hate someone just because of their skin color is ignorance, pure and simple.

    As far as kywck goes, everything that he has said I have witnessed before. Hell, all of the meetings which I have been a part of and spok during, containing whites, blacks, Mexicans, Cubans, etc, I have came across those types of statements so they really do not bother me. I mean, the effects of name calling sort of faded during elementary school.

    I thought the statement was quite funny. Also, I understand your positions as they are quite common. The statement which I made was never really to support, or not, the actions of the black panthers. It was to simply give a view of how these same occurrences happened in the past and nothing was done about those either. If you would have read further, you would have realized this ... but, i digress.

    The statements that kywck made about "taking this back in time" and the president only helps to further what I was talking about. The truth of the matter is, Kywck, we cannot go back 50 years and erase anything. So, those points, as small as they may have been, are amazingly, even more irrelevant. We cannot change the past. It is as it happened. And, thanks for making the point crystal clear. No, those KKK members would not have been let off by our current president, at all. You are certainly correct in that assumption.
    However, those KKK members were let off by our past supreme court judge from yesteryear and pardoned by the governor from yesteryear as a misunderstanding (in two specific cases). Or, let me be specific, lack of evidence, though one even admitted to doing it...

    I have no intentions of allowing the past to fuel my beliefs in people in this modern day and age. I know that racism still exist. I understand that of the people that I work with everyday, some are racist. Hell, i've had a guy that I work with everyday tell me that I am the only cool <insert race here> that he has ever worked with, yet, he still dislikes everyone else of "my kind". Wonder what he tells his friends outside of work about me? Actually, he says good things...laughable really. He only says this because he has worked with me and now KNOWS me for me and not for skin color, or lack of color, depends on how you view it. He says today, "if every <insert race here> was like you, I wouldn't have a problem with those "insert race here". It is not that he is stupid but, specifically, he is ignorant. He is too ignorant to realize that if he took time to talk to others of "my kind", he would find multiples of individuals that he likes...once again, laughable, yet true.

    Now let's flip this script. Do you honestly believe that if some black men were to kill a white guy, today, or a white family that our president would "pardon them". Absolutely not!
    Please try and read beyond your allegations that I am using this to try and play the race card.
    The article started off asking if this happened "back then" would "they" have been let off the "hook" as you call it. I was specifically mocking the article on it's opening statements by saying that yes, they would, hell they got off for murder, so why not.

    That type of thought is not, in the least bit, motivated by logic or fairness and it's highly damaging to the nation because it's racially motivated isolationist propaganda
    Oh, come now....is it really? Propaganda? What opinions or point of views am I spreading? In that statement, where did I spread my own point of view or opinion? I merely stated documented facts ...
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00 View Post

    As much as anybody else, I want to see everybody succeed, regardless of color, ethnicity, or religion. To me, one of the things that makes me exceedingly happy (and all tingly inside) is seeing the success of my student-friends who immigrate from countries like Kenya and are wildly successful because they have goals and they work hard to achieve them. And, what pisses me off beyond belief is when people use racially charged political statements based off of irrelevant past actions of dead men to create racial isolationism and resentful sentiment. And you know what? Many of my African immigrant friends agree with me!!! They see this nation in from an entirely different perspective and rarely experience the so-called "problems" so many African Americans claim to be commonplace.


    While racism in it's true "skin color" form does exist, it's relatively uncommon. With our current president's election--remember, it's largely whites who show up to the polls and vote, so they are primarily responsible for getting him into office!--in conjunction with the success of African immigrants there is no good evidence suggesting that skin color negatively effects any racial group in the US in this day and age. You CHOOSE to think that way because of the plight of the African American community. You CHOOSE to think that way because it's much better than the alternative, that it's a cultural problem (the actual issue). The African American culture does not appreciate values, such as education, which are available to them and would afford them the opportunity to succeed. Therefore they do no succeed! The culture has it's interest largely vested in things like sports and gangster rap, teaches isolationist crap and encourages resentment and complacency.

    I mean, look at this crap:

    Content analysis of 56 African American high school students’ descriptions of the meaning of ‘‘acting Black’’ revealed five underlying content dimensions: (1) academic/scholastic, (2) aesthetic/stylistic, (3) behavioral, (4) dispositional, and (5) impressionistic. With the exception of the qualities in the aesthetic/stylistic category, the respondents attributed primarily negative qualities to ‘‘acting Black.’’ Although Black youths’ perspectives on ‘‘acting White’’ has been a topic of great interest among those concerned about the academic achievement gap between Black and White youths, results of the present study suggest that the quest to improve academic and social achievement among African American youths will need to focus on altering youths’ definitions of ‘‘acting Black.’’

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/...ext.pdf?page=1

    Culture is a huge deal, and it's the problem here... no color. That's why the success of African immigrants is largely determined by their country of origin. (I.e. Kenyans and Somali's have vastly different success rates). In addition, consider this: African immigrants have THE HIGHEST education attainment rates of any immigrant group in the US with an astounding 48.9% of all African immigrants holding a diploma, far exceeding both white and Asian communities. Nobody held them back, and they're wildly successful in the workforce.

    The point is this: Black's need to stop justifying unjust actions because of temporally irrelevant historical events. They need to stop blaming their underwhelming achievement on non-existent oppressive white intervention and inequality. They need to start looking at African American culture and fixing it--it's obviously not producing the results the black community desires. This is the land of opportunity. This is a time where opportunity is equally available to everybody in this land. Nowhere else on the planet will you find the opportunity you have here, so learn to love it, embrace your Americanism, stop isolating yourselves, and make America proud rather than making excuses. And lastly, above all else, value the truth and don't replace what is true with what you wish were true simply because what you wish for resonates with your emotional state better than the actual truth.

    WOW, you say that you do not believe in the act of promoting propaganda, yet, you are sleeping with it in all of these statements like a $5.00 hooker.
    Temporally irrelevant historical events? Wow again. You have amazed me yet again.
    For someone that does not think ignorantly, you are holding ignorance up, like you have it written on a sign, marching back and forth in a picket line....

    You should be proud of yourself. You go at the other poster, telling him to pick a side, or choose yet you are saying that this is a land of individual opportunity and then bash blacks for choosing to perform music? Why not bash blacks for choosing to perform gospel, hell, we are not all Christians. So, maybe that offends me supremely.

    Again, you are putting a base on racism as if it was about the "color" of someone's skin only. If you are going to write the argument, write it all out in plain view so that we can all have a look. Racism is about hating someone because of just that color and not taking the time or opportunity to further understand that person for who they are. Racism is about listening to others and allowing them to tell you that you should hate this person because they are of a different race than you are and not having the opportunity to choose for yourself if you would enjoy this person's friendship or not.

    You are talking about blacks giving excuses for their lack of success and I agree, blacks should quit making up excuses for their losses. This is just as well as ALL OTHER RACES should quit blaming the "system" for their losses and short comings. Hell, people need to quit blaming the government for every small mishap that comes up also.

    But, I am talking about people hating others just due to their skin color and being so ignorant that they cannot see the good in someone just because of that.
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  7. The original black panthers, if you truly read the history, did not talk about killing off whites. They taught equal rights for everyone, period. Even some of the panthers met with kkk members in order to come to a balance. These guys in this new age are preaching hate, which, I have no respect for.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I don't at all agree with these people killing abortion doctors, but how many doctors have been killed? Isn't it like five? Versus millions of babies. -

    But I digress...I don't agree, yet I don' really care.
    What's absolutely pathetic is that we have people going around claiming to be Christians and killing abortion doctors? And, they are doing it because they are trying to preserve life? Ummmm, does anyone see the complete silly irony in this?
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    What's absolutely pathetic is that we have people going around claiming to be Christians and killing abortion doctors? And, they are doing it because they are trying to preserve life? Ummmm, does anyone see the complete silly irony in this?
    Haha. Yes. Those kinds of people do more damage to the name "Christian" than anyone else.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    The original black panthers, if you truly read the history, did not talk about killing off whites. They taught equal rights for everyone, period. Even some of the panthers met with kkk members in order to come to a balance. These guys in this new age are preaching hate, which, I have no respect for.
    Ya. The New Black Panther Party has absolutely no affiliation with the original group. I can't say I agree with the original 100%, but they were in no way as extreme as these dudes.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    The original black panthers, if you truly read the history, did not talk about killing off whites. They taught equal rights for everyone, period. Even some of the panthers met with kkk members in order to come to a balance. These guys in this new age are preaching hate, which, I have no respect for.
    You are 100% correct and this backs up those statements:

    http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/...lack-panthers/
    http://www.socialistalternative.org/...nther/ch2.html
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    What's absolutely pathetic is that we have people going around claiming to be Christians and killing abortion doctors? And, they are doing it because they are trying to preserve life? Ummmm, does anyone see the complete silly irony in this?
    You are acting that since you are a Christian you have no leeway for true poetic justice. I am a Christian and fully support the death penalty. Most do not grab to the scripture word for word, but believe in their own interpretation... one of the many great things we were given as human beings, freedom of thought. I think abortion doctors should be punished by death, especially for the upcoming live birth abortions that is attached to the FOCA (If a baby survives an abortion, then just left on the table to cry and die, no support given, now we aren't quantifying life even after birth). So yes, for the greater good some must die some times.

    Do I think that guy was right to shoot him without due process? No. But do I have sympathy for a man who has removed life after life from this world? Nope.

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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Nole1 View Post
    how in the world have we fallen into this abyss?
    Because when Republicans had their chance they ****ed the dog so hard it left a blood trail.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    This is what I've been saying. I'm a culturalist, not a racist.
    Same difference in PC terms.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    Because when Republicans had their chance they ****ed the dog so hard it left a blood trail.
    Unfortunately, this started well before the last admin, and you know that CDB. The slippery slope started far back and gained the most momentum with the Carter Admin... from there it has been a downward spiral.

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  16. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    Same difference in PC terms.
    Not necessarily... finding disgust in Gang banger, and a Mexican are two completely different things.

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Unfortunately, this started well before the last admin, and you know that CDB. The slippery slope started far back and gained the most momentum with the Carter Admin... from there it has been a downward spiral.
    I agree, the degeneration has been constant and long lived. However recall that recently we still had people like Dole and Lott and Bar in the senate and congress. These were guys with some vestige of the Old Right in them and perhaps a hint of fiscal discipline. These last eight years though are when the NeoCons really came into their own, and man did they screw the pooch like no one else. Spending and wars all over the place. If the country is a road trip we just let that uncle drive and he made a bee line straight to Thailand and the little boys boutique.

    Not necessarily... finding disgust in Gang banger, and a Mexican are two completely different things.
    Not to the PC crowd. Race and culture are essentially synonymous to them. Hating a gang banger means you hate blacks to them. Why do you think they call some blacks oreos? It's not really their skin color that matters in the end, though it's a convenient dividing line that will do in a pinch. It's the culture. It always has been.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    I agree, the degeneration has been constant and long lived. However recall that recently we still had people like Dole and Lott and Bar in the senate and congress. These were guys with some vestige of the Old Right in them and perhaps a hint of fiscal discipline. These last eight years though are when the NeoCons really came into their own, and man did they screw the pooch like no one else. Spending and wars all over the place. If the country is a road trip we just let that uncle drive and he made a bee line straight to Thailand and the little boys boutique.
    I think the last admin was played the hand they were dealt... my biggest gripe is spending. We differ on wars. I think war was inevitable since the US was considered a big ***** from the lack of response from the former administration. I cannot get on board with the waste of spending at all, Medicare part D... SERIOUSLY? when we are already spending our way into hell? Unfortunately the current administration took the reigns of the former and continue with the insurmountable spending, within months outspending the former administration... it is seriously a toilet bowl effect, we all swirl, while good old Commander in Chief does the flushing. And as you know it keeps going further back, Bush 1, Carter passing the CRA, and so on and so forth. A r3volution is imminent, I really can feel it coming. I only hope someone like Ron Paul is the one to lead it... I want to see real adherence to the constitution, get back to a real republic, or a real democracy for that matter based on federalism instead of the state governments being like the fed little b*tches.



    Not to the PC crowd. Race and culture are essentially synonymous to them. Hating a gang banger means you hate blacks to them. Why do you think they call some blacks oreos? It's not really their skin color that matters in the end, though it's a convenient dividing line that will do in a pinch. It's the culture. It always has been.
    Unfortunately I can see that point of view. The PC crowd while trying to be considerate, is instead breeding hate. Nice little catch 22 there.

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  19. What's absolutely pathetic is that we have people going around claiming to be Christians and killing abortion doctors? And, they are doing it because they are trying to preserve life? Ummmm, does anyone see the complete silly irony in this?
    I actually see irony in those who truely do believe it's murder and do nothing about it. I don't look at it as murder but I do know what I would do if I saw a guy curb stomping a bunch of children at a daycare. Even if it were legal to do this I don't think I could sit back and just say "it ain't illegal" and end my plea at picketing.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I actually see irony in those who truely do believe it's murder and do nothing about it. I don't look at it as murder but I do know what I would do if I saw a guy curb stomping a bunch of children at a daycare. Even if it were legal to do this I don't think I could sit back and just say "it ain't illegal" and end my plea at picketing.
    I still don't understand how abortion is legal yet someone can be charged with two counts of murder when they murder a pregnant woman...what if she was on her way to the abortion clinic?

    I'm obviously not defending the murderer, just trying to make sense of the charges brought against them.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    Same difference in PC terms.
    Whatever. I don't care.

  22. Think it all rests on the choice being taken away from the mother.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    Think it all rests on the choice being taken away from the mother.
    The choice is taken away from someone regardless. It still doesn't make any sense. You're saying in one case that it's an unborn child, and in the other, that it's just a fetus and is fine to trash it.

    Do you see what I'm getting at? The choice has nothing to do with it. You're determining a life on a whim of thought. "It is" or "it isn't" based on who does the killing; the mother or the murderer.

    Liberalism is such a ****ing mirage of thought. There is absolutely no basis or foundation for any of this bull ****. I'm so sick of this garbage. ****ing pussies. A political ideology based on emotion rather than fact.

    Way to go you **** holes.

    (this wasn't directed at you Jay - just irked in general)

  24. I was only stating why I think they do what they do... Not quite sure how each state views these things cause i don't 'think' that every state has a double murder statute if a person kills a pregnant mother.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I was only stating why I think they do what they do... Not quite sure how each state views these things cause i don't 'think' that every state has a double murder statute if a person kills a pregnant mother.
    I'll get this back on topic...

    Black Panthers suck and are the definition of racism.

    gogogogogogo
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