my journey to get to 150 criticizm and suggestions wanted

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  1. Well your in a good rep range for hypertrophy so I wouldn't change that yet. I mean you do seem to have diet etc. down which is really rare for someone just starting. As long as your form and ROM are correct than I'd say just keep it up, when you get to 150 you should be very strong. Also I am soooo jealous of that supplement stash lol.


  2. its more like a restart then first starting so muscle memory has been great and i think thats what allowed me to gain 40 lbs in 7 months. like i said before i lifted throughout highschool and jr high but not for bb purposes more athletic , specifically for soccer. but now since i dont play soccer anymore i just wanna get as massive as possible but i guess thats what everyone wants lol
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  3. gained another lb this week so im at 123 right now and looks like i lost a bit of bf because my pants are a lil looser around the waist which is cool. starting up a sick ass stack of CEE , Prime and nitro tech.... JK but really this week im starting up a new little stack of DTHC, low dose 11-oxo, 6-oxo, Ghenerate, 3-ohat, and staples. also gonna use completely differnet nutrient partitioners and a slightly different diet. 50% carb 40% pro 10% fat on lifting days and 55%fat 40%pro and 5% carb on non lifting days. I gained a lb on 2600 cals last week so ill just be bumpin my intake up 100cals each week. also i was able to pull 200 1 time on sldl so im happy about that

  4. Goodluck glad to see your hard work and determination it will deffinately pay off.

  5. why all the supplements needed though man? Obviously you are gaining weight, and only at 2600 calories also... why not just bump up calories higher? I don't get the point of using all that if you weight as little as you. Why not build back up to a reasonable amount or where you used to be at prior to this incident then start with the 6 rounds of supplements?

    BTW you sting at swoldierboy was uncalled for (if thats what you were doing with the prime, CEE, nitrotech statement)
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  6. chill bro just a joke if he seriously cant take a joke then he shouldnt talk all the sh!t that he does. i tried to help the dude and then he wanted to be a prick so .... but why use supplements? to answer ur question one I have low test so i like a little boost, 2 im not taking any prohormones yet so i dont see why a little bit of supps would be negative on my body, and Im naturally small so its going to take alot to get to where i want to be. like i said ive never weighed more than 130-135 i played comp soccer my whole life so lots of running as you can imagine. and if im gaining at 2600 cals why jump 500 or so cals just to gain a higher fat to muscle ratio? im it this for the long haul bro i have no doubt that itll take 10-15 years to be were i wanna be and thats cool with me. bodybuildings a lifestyle for me, its not just something im doing for fun right now cause i dont have anything else to do.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    chill bro just a joke if he seriously cant take a joke then he shouldnt talk all the sh!t that he does. i tried to help the dude and then he wanted to be a prick so .... but why use supplements? to answer ur question one I have low test so i like a little boost, 2 im not taking any prohormones yet so i dont see why a little bit of supps would be negative on my body, and Im naturally small so its going to take alot to get to where i want to be. like i said ive never weighed more than 130-135 i played comp soccer my whole life so lots of running as you can imagine. and if im gaining at 2600 cals why jump 500 or so cals just to gain a higher fat to muscle ratio? im it this for the long haul bro i have no doubt that itll take 10-15 years to be were i wanna be and thats cool with me. bodybuildings a lifestyle for me, its not just something im doing for fun right now cause i dont have anything else to do.
    At your weight I would rather have weight in general, I can't remember what bodyfat you were at, but I see no need to be afraid of beefing up to 12-15%. It can easily be lost. Have you tried going to an endo at all for your low testosterone? Do you have low free or total? How was your lh and everything?
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  8. seen an endo for 6 months and not trying to start trt. it was <20 ng/ml about 7 months ago and 3 months ago it was in the low 200s and i have no doubt its gone up since then. Ill be getting new bloods done in another month or so to see where its at.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    seen an endo for 6 months and not trying to start trt. it was <20 ng/ml about 7 months ago and 3 months ago it was in the low 200s and i have no doubt its gone up since then. Ill be getting new bloods done in another month or so to see where its at.
    good to see. Have you thought about running low dose nolva 10-10-10-10?
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  10. did clomid for a few weeks and im using nolva right now actually. just finished using old JW so i wanted to play it safe
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  11. old JW is a PH just so you know, you said you hadn't used any PH's. If you have low test why use a PH? I was talking as in using it as therapy or the sorts
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  12. yes i kno whats in jw 6-dmt and hence the reason why im taking nolva as we speak

  13. and i dont consider jw a prohormone do u kno how low of a dose and how weak of a compound it is

  14. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    did clomid for a few weeks and im using nolva right now actually. just finished using old JW so i wanted to play it safe
    WTF are you using a PH for? You need food bro... I'll trade you some steak and potatoes for some of those supps if you want.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    and i dont consider jw a prohormone do u kno how low of a dose and how weak of a compound it is
    Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    yes i kno whats in jw 6-dmt and hence the reason why im taking nolva as we speak
    It's not about what YOU consider a pro-hormone, it's what the industry considers it, and yes you HAVE used a pro-hormone... don't kid yourself.

    Just work hard and eat, eat, eat. The last thing I would do with low levels is use PH or anything CLOSE to it without doctor recognition.
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  16. ok well let me rephrase that , I wont be using any of the designers i have for a long time and I have used the compound 6-dmt. i kno everyone assumes i obviously dont have my diet right and i dont eat enough because im so small but the thing is i probably know more about proper nutrition now then most people who tell me i dont eat enough. if i have been constantly gaining 1-1.5lbs every other week i cant see were my training and or diet is wrong. ive put on just about 50lbs in 8 months. obviously that wouldnt have been able to be accomplished had i not been so severly underwieght but that variable aside being able to gain 50lbs and maintain a bodyfat between6-10% i think shows a little bit about my work ethic and my understanding of nutrition.

  17. and texas i dont see why u feel the need to come into every single one of my threads and tell me to eat eat eat. maybe u should tell ur buddy swoldierboy the same thing. because everyday he asks about how he should stack this this and this when he has no idea about anything hes taking. i mean come on he said "can i take prime and sizeon at the same time wont it cause to many free radicals in my body like aakg does" if u are that uninformed to think that every supplement causes free radicals in the blood u have reading to do and not asking questions that could be answered by researching the topic by urself. aakg causes free radical production because of the hypothetical increase in NOS production but i have my doubts about aakg or any arginine actually doing so. the only things i really believe have a positive effect on nos are cit mal and GPLC and thats because ive seen the studies to prove it. and i guess ArA does aswell but i doubt x-factors efficacy at promoting anabolism aswell

  18. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    and texas i dont see why u feel the need to come into every single one of my threads and tell me to eat eat eat. maybe u should tell ur buddy swoldierboy the same thing. because everyday he asks about how he should stack this this and this when he has no idea about anything hes taking. i mean come on he said "can i take prime and sizeon at the same time wont it cause to many free radicals in my body like aakg does" if u are that uninformed to think that every supplement causes free radicals in the blood u have reading to do and not asking questions that could be answered by researching the topic by urself. aakg causes free radical production because of the hypothetical increase in NOS production but i have my doubts about aakg or any arginine actually doing so. the only things i really believe have a positive effect on nos are cit mal and GPLC and thats because ive seen the studies to prove it. and i guess ArA does aswell but i doubt x-factors efficacy at promoting anabolism aswell
    you can be the one to tell him that I just say to eat because yes you can eat (and I say that in your steroid threads because you have no need to be worrying about them at 120 or 130, whatever you are), and he eats plenty. I see him put down 5k on a daily basis minimum when I am back in town. BTW congrats on 50 lbs, but it is not uncommon for someone starting back up to see 20-40 lbs in a year of "newb gains".

    I'm not the one to get into an argument of what produces free radicals and does not, so take that game up with swoldierboy. I know that creatine monohydrate has been shown to help have antioxidant attributes and can help lower free radicals. As for the other ingredients, I do not know.
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  19. Wait.... you've gained 50lbs and you still only weigh 126lbs? So you used to weigh 76lbs? Whats up with that, man?

  20. long story but if u read the little bit of background itll kinda explain it. but to sum it up i got that low ended up in the hospital because of three things. 1 working 12+ hrs a day graveyard, 2 i was getting 2 or 3 hrs of sleep or not sleeping at all for up to three or four days, and i basically was only eating once a day at midnight on my lunch break and besides that i would just drink redbulls, coffee, and redlines to stay awake and i slowly wasted away pretty much. i didnt get to 76 but 81 lbs. and at the time because of the heavy stim usage and lack of nutrition i pretty much didnt stop to notice what was happening till it was too late and when u get that malnourished and go that long on minimal sleep it truly puts ur brain in a completely altered state.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    long story but if u read the little bit of background itll kinda explain it. but to sum it up i got that low ended up in the hospital because of three things. 1 working 12+ hrs a day graveyard, 2 i was getting 2 or 3 hrs of sleep or not sleeping at all for up to three or four days, and i basically was only eating once a day at midnight on my lunch break and besides that i would just drink redbulls, coffee, and redlines to stay awake and i slowly wasted away pretty much. i didnt get to 76 but 81 lbs. and at the time because of the heavy stim usage and lack of nutrition i pretty much didnt stop to notice what was happening till it was too late and when u get that malnourished and go that long on minimal sleep it truly puts ur brain in a completely altered state.
    i responded to your statement above.
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  22. Keep up the good work! Definately some strong legs.
    Everyone keeps saying drop all the supps, and eat - while I agree they are probably not needed, if they are helping you stay motivated, go for it. I noticed you mentioned 11-Oxo in there, and are not wanting to use anything hormonal right now. Pretty sure 11-Oxo can be suppressive.
    Anyway, it's inspirational to see the turnaround in your life and congrats on your dedication to making the change.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jaidmaster View Post
    Keep up the good work! Definately some strong legs.
    Everyone keeps saying drop all the supps, and eat - while I agree they are probably not needed, if they are helping you stay motivated, go for it. I noticed you mentioned 11-Oxo in there, and are not wanting to use anything hormonal right now. Pretty sure 11-Oxo can be suppressive.
    Anyway, it's inspirational to see the turnaround in your life and congrats on your dedication to making the change.
    you're correct on 11-oxo.
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  24. yeah 11-oxo can be suppressive but at a 75mg dose for purely cortisol control its not going to be anabolic in anyway and if it is suppressive it will be so minor that im not worried about it. and ive talked to a few people who are very knowledgeable on the topic of anabolics

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Jaidmaster View Post
    Keep up the good work! Definately some strong legs.
    Everyone keeps saying drop all the supps, and eat - while I agree they are probably not needed, if they are helping you stay motivated, go for it. I noticed you mentioned 11-Oxo in there, and are not wanting to use anything hormonal right now. Pretty sure 11-Oxo can be suppressive.
    Anyway, it's inspirational to see the turnaround in your life and congrats on your dedication to making the change.
    thanks bro

  26. good for you man!

    I also used to be <120lbs and over the course of a few years years I made it to 160lbs at ~9%bf or so all natural. If i could do it all again I would have waited to start anabolics till much later too. So that is my first attempt to offer help. If i were doing it again I would set a min weight of 165lbs or more for your height before starting anabolics. If you can't get to 165lbs natural at <14%bf then anabolics won't help you.

    second, are you slamming 2 weight gainer shakes a day? you are a lean mofo for sure and putting on bf sucks but I bet you will do much better if you completely stop worrying about putting on fat (eating clean of course) and just eat like it's your job. It will be very easy for you to bulk to 165lbs at 13%bf over the next year or two and then run a cut. that's a TON of supps too man, that's nuts!

    looks good though, just be patient! gains will taper off!

  27. i havent ever bought a weight gainer i usually just make my own concotions. but right now i can eat enough and still gain without having to rely on shakes. I do have a shake post workout and before bed but other than that i have 4 full meals a day. but i may end up buying one next semester , i have a cool schedule this semester but im gonna be away from my house most of the day next year so ill probably get one then . but i agree with u im sure i can get to 165, itll take awhile but itll be worth it no doubt

  28. and also this month im goin basic on my GDA usage im just going to be using bulk banaba, ALA, and HCA in bulk that is very effective im finding and most people think HCA is only good for fat loss but when u dose it correctly with carb meals of course u get the BG lowering and the lipolytic effects but it doesnt hinder bulking at all. but also on the other hand it would be very good for cutting or just trying to stay lean while bulking which is my goal. I took my first dose of bulk HCA and i would compare it in potency to yellow gold but it has many more effects such as blocking the conversion of carbohydrate to fatty acids but since i took it with ala that activates the glut 4 so it forces the carbs into my muscles where i want them to be. and I feel solid right now so i kno im interested to see how my results compare versus using gbol or ap/pslin. and the bulk hca powder i got a really good deal on from leanbodyformulations.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    and also this month im goin basic on my GDA usage im just going to be using bulk banaba, ALA, and HCA in bulk that is very effective im finding and most people think HCA is only good for fat loss but when u dose it correctly with carb meals of course u get the BG lowering and the lipolytic effects but it doesnt hinder bulking at all. but also on the other hand it would be very good for cutting or just trying to stay lean while bulking which is my goal. I took my first dose of bulk HCA and i would compare it in potency to yellow gold but it has many more effects such as blocking the conversion of carbohydrate to fatty acids but since i took it with ala that activates the glut 4 so it forces the carbs into my muscles where i want them to be. and I feel solid right now so i kno im interested to see how my results compare versus using gbol or ap/pslin. and the bulk hca powder i got a really good deal on from leanbodyformulations.
    interesting, id like to see the comparisons when you figure it out

  30. heres a few things ive dug up so far, ill just paste the summary of the studies

    Background
    (-)-Hydroxycitric acid (HCA) is an active ingredient extracted from the rind of the Indian fruit Garcinia cambogia. It inhibits adenosine triphosphate citrate lipase
    CONCLUSION
    Levels of serum insulin and leptin, as well as the leptin/WAT ratio, were lower in the treated mice than in the control. These findings suggested that G. cambogia extract efficiently improved glucose metabolism and displayed leptin-like activity.

    G cambogia reduced abdominal fat accumulation in subjects, regardless of sex, who had the visceral fat accumulation type of obesity. No rebound effect was observed. It is therefore expected that G cambogia may be useful for the prevention and reduction of accumulation of visceral fat.
  

  
 

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