13 Month Transformation (w/ serious dedication)
- 06-26-2009, 01:19 AM
- 06-26-2009, 08:43 AM
thats what I meant...your T-levels, not strength, but I didn't realize you had low levels in the first place
- 06-26-2009, 09:18 AM
06-26-2009, 09:37 AM
"Given your body size and shape you are very weak. I just got my blood tested awhile back but I had normal 800+ t levels, but I think im on the higher to middle end of strength for my size, and ive never cycled.
I find it sort of interesting because I just recently got a blood test and my ast and alt levels were through the ROOF! I think for me it was related to supps tho, and ive been off of them for about 4 weeks. Hopefully my levels drop, and I hope your situation gets better as it seems it is."
06-26-2009, 09:43 AM
"Given your size and shape you are very weak."
Wtf you mean by this!! That is so retarded!!!\
Go and hit the books my friend!!!
P.S. If your T levels are around 800 you should have way more muscle and less fat if you say you work out like you do! Come on dude!
06-26-2009, 10:31 AM
I think POON has too much T, , therefore, even though he has a worse physique, he feels the need to brag about his strength numbers. lets be serious here for a second...yes, we all love being strong, but what do we really want? to look good! no one cares if you squat 405, yea, you'll get to go on a date with the prom queen, but if I got the 6-pack, she's gonna be in my bed
06-26-2009, 11:23 AM
06-26-2009, 12:29 PM
06-26-2009, 05:42 PM
haha calm down guys.
Seriously tho, POON, if you have 800+ test levels then you must be lazy. If only I had 800+ test levels I would be on my way to mr. olympia by now.
06-26-2009, 06:05 PM
And I Workout damn hard,I only started working out seriously in february, after a horrible knee injury that gave me a bunch of other issues. I use to weigh 250+ lbs, and Ive dropped about 12+ bf% points.
Theres a reason why my max deadlift went from 225 in february to 405 x 5 a few weeks ago, Im doing the best I can. I had gotten down to 182lbs but I looked wierd, i didnt have any muscle, so I did a little recomp/bulk to build up my core a bit because there wasnt anythign there. Im about to start a full fledged cut now that I built up my core alot more and strength.
Look at my 13 weeks thread, I think im doing pretty good considering I didnt really know anything about BBing, dieting, and "REAL" powerlifting until february.
But whatever, dont really care what anyone says to be honest you guys are just giving me more motivation. thanks!
06-26-2009, 06:51 PM
06-26-2009, 07:08 PM
06-26-2009, 07:45 PM
06-26-2009, 07:46 PM
06-26-2009, 09:11 PM
06-28-2009, 02:44 AM
06-28-2009, 12:51 PM
06-30-2009, 10:53 PM
so do you guys think I should start leaning out or keep bulking to 200 and worry about leaning out later.
07-01-2009, 09:02 AM
all depends man, some would say to bulk to build a good "muscle base" but IMO you have the rest of your life to gain, so get lean, and steadily build lean muscle over time, by the way, how old are you?
07-01-2009, 10:46 AM
07-01-2009, 12:47 PM
o, then its your call...personally Im trying to get lean. yea being big is cool and you'll turn heads, but then they look away, but being lean is what turns heads and they keep staring
07-01-2009, 03:09 PM
On a side note, your avitar looks like poondawg!!!
07-02-2009, 02:14 AM
haha my avi or profile pic? thanx man, but my profile pic is old...last year after my first Hdrol cycle
07-02-2009, 04:00 PM
07-02-2009, 04:48 PM
07-06-2009, 11:39 PM
I took a week off from caffeine/all stimulants. Ordered some USP Jacked. Took 2 scoops today Pre-Workout for my Chest/Biceps.
HOLY F*CK. It blows every Pre-Workout Supp away ENTIRELY. I was SO wired. I wasn't much stronger, but I had a ton of motivation. The pumps were just as strong if not stronger than havoc. I was blown away at the size of my arm pumps. I had to stop and stretch in order to do biceps, because my muscles were in the way!
07-07-2009, 12:14 AM
07-07-2009, 12:28 AM
I promise man, I took this stuff a few months ago and remembering it being freakish. I tried superpump 250 the other day and it was nothing in comparison. I guess I'm a super responder. I started itching all over and getting red blotches all over...I guess from the beta alanine. I seriously felt like I was on havoc, but without the strength.
However, its left me feeling shaky in my stomach/nervous the rest of day/night. Taking some benedryl to get to sleep.
07-07-2009, 09:10 AM
07-07-2009, 10:40 AM
these things have the most retarded names. NoShotgun...WTF y not NOAK47 I heard some guy talking about once called NOLoaded the other day...
07-07-2009, 12:41 PM
07-08-2009, 08:00 PM
You kind of look like Vin Diesel with your head shaved.
Solid progress by the way. I didn't take the time to read through each page from beginning to end, but I caught things here & there with less then desirable blood tests regarding your T. Hope things are working out and solid work for sure.
NSCA - CSCS
07-08-2009, 09:56 PM
08-28-2009, 07:57 PM
Still lifting hard. Changed my routine up a little...doing cardio 25min 3x week now...and supersetting/higher reps on every workout day. I'm working out in the 10-12 rep range.
So far, despite my low-T, I'm up a solid 5lbs or so...the scale shows 187-190lb consistantly. Mirror looks around 10-12% bodyfat.
Final blood test to determine treatment/no treatment for my Low-T levels will be next tuesday.
Hopefully I'll be on 100mg/test or something soon...and then things will get crazy fun lol.I've been dreaming about running another havoc cycle at 6 weeks 40-50mg without any PCT! 200lb at 6% bodyfat isn't too far off....
08-28-2009, 08:35 PM
08-29-2009, 11:20 AM
Great work over the past year. As already stated above, keep your diet in line, eat enough quality foods to feed the machine. At your age I would like to echo the point that you do not need gear to live up to your potential. DIET DIET DIET!!! I know you have seen the fat asses in the gym that work out hard but still fat?! Its because of their diet. Once you do get to the point where you are ready to start gear, make sure you do your research... and who gives a flying nut sack what the oppressive fat monsters of our society think you are doing... hell they probably already assume you are on the sauce....jealousy is a bitter pill
08-29-2009, 02:05 PM
08-29-2009, 06:14 PM
I guess you guys haven't read my thread all the way...
"Havoc without PCT" --- would mean, I would be on Testosterone-Replacement-Therapy because I have low testosterone because of a pituitary and varicocele disorder. If I was on TRT, no pct would be needed for any gear as a sustained administration for life of testosterone would be maintained. This isn't necessarily a thing to look forward to when you are 20 years old.
I also believe I "dont need gear for my age". But, when you have testosterone levels in the low 300's and your estradiol in the low teens, TRT is like giving a steak to an ethiopian. As of now, I'm not able to perform "at my age".
08-30-2009, 02:18 AM
08-30-2009, 02:56 AM
The first time I ran havoc 20/20/30/30 with Tamoxifene Citrate 20/20/20/10. Huge gains, +12-15lbs, PCT sucked....I felt terrible because the SERM murdered my sex drive and well being. I mistakenly thought I was shutdown, but felt great as soon as I dropped the SERM.
Second round I ran 30/30/30...I had to quit early because my arthritis in my right elbow was severely irritated from the dryness of the compound. I gained around 5 solid pounds anyhow. PCT was I-Force Reversitol. SERM on standby.
If/When I ever run havoc again, or any PH for that matter, If i'm not on some sort of TRT, I will certainly run Clomid only for PCT.
I dont care what anyone on these boards say, Clomid destroys every PCT hands down. I've tried Toremifene, Tamoxifene (twice), and AI OTC products. NOTHING compares to clomid IMO. I ran a standalone cycle of Clomid for 10 weeks and even though my test only increased 200ng/dl, I felt like it was substantially working compared to nolvadex/tamoxifene.
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