13 Month Transformation (w/ serious dedication)

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  1. thanks guys!

    i've been cutting some weight...cut back the calories, lost a good bit of strength but i'm still growing/loosing fat.

    Down to 180lbs solid.

    Starting a P-Plex/Epistane Bridge on January 6th!!! Stay tuned...this 3 week cut should give me a major shock when it comes to bulking again. Aiming for 195lbs.


  2. when did you finish your most recent cycle? Mid november?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Sergiu View Post
    No offense, but if you did something behind her back, she has all the reasons in the world to dump you. If your relationship is based on deceit and lying, it's pointless. If you're not honest to your other person, yes, your relationship isn't solid and it's not really the other person's fault.
    No offense taken.

    However, not experiencing unnecessary legal trouble, not experiencing having the stigma of 'steroid user' over your head for the foreseeable future, and not having your compounds seized by far and away overcome any misplaced sense of duty to a semi-permanent, non-maritally committed relationship.

    And to suggest that acting in self-interest in exceptional circumstances necessarily equates to 'having a relationship based on deceit' is a tad dramatic, and dare I say The View-esque!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    when did you finish your most recent cycle? Mid november?

    I think first week of october I need to check that...it will have been 3 months tho.

  5. awesome. Have you ever thought about running an AI like formestane while using something such as activate extreme or stoked? I would recommend checking that out before touching another designer cycle.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    awesome. Have you ever thought about running an AI like formestane while using something such as activate extreme or stoked? I would recommend checking that out before touching another designer cycle.

    Only designers ever have been Epi and only twice.

    Last cycle was only 21 days at 30/30/40...it was too dry and killed my elbow and I had to quit.

    I plan to start P-Plex on January 7. This will be 85 days since last cycle. According to the time on/pct/timeon+pct this is more than enough....what do you guys think?

    I do not want to touch an AI if I don't have too....only in PCT...kills my elbow cartlidge problem.

    You guys think its too excessive to run p-plex after 2 cycle of havoc?

    Libido is high, nuts are full, strength is increasing...should I get a blood test this week?

    1st Havoc 5 weeks - April
    2nd Havoc 3 weeks - September
    3rd Upcoming P-Plex - January 09

  7. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    Only designers ever have been Epi and only twice.

    Last cycle was only 21 days at 30/30/40...it was too dry and killed my elbow and I had to quit.

    I plan to start P-Plex on January 7. This will be 85 days since last cycle. According to the time on/pct/timeon+pct this is more than enough....what do you guys think?

    I do not want to touch an AI if I don't have too....only in PCT...kills my elbow cartlidge problem.

    You guys think its too excessive to run p-plex after 2 cycle of havoc?

    Libido is high, nuts are full, strength is increasing...should I get a blood test this week?

    1st Havoc 5 weeks - April
    2nd Havoc 3 weeks - September
    3rd Upcoming P-Plex - January 09
    I have an elbow problem its burstisis and some other stuff. I suggest you do that rather than cycle at a young age although you already have. You can adjust the AI to where you wont have dry joints. That is a sign of reading your body. Also have you every looked into Cissus, MSM, or chondritin? I would look into those for joint support with a good AI such as form or 6oxo and then a natural test booster versus running a steroid cycle.
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  8. im on liquid glucosamine, chondroit, msm, cissus, and haulyronic acid. And 8 grams of fish oil per day. I do this everyday.

    I believe that running steroids while Im young is safer than running when I'm older as my hpta more resilient. My growth plates have fused already completely according to MRI's and numerous x-rays.

    I definitely understand your concern. I do have many years ahead of me and theres really no reason besides personal satisfaction to running steroids now.

    But if my test levels are fine, liver values check out...I don't see the harm.

    Its not as if I'm running 12 week cycles of test enanthate and deca with severe stress on hpta.

    I've run 2 small epi cycles....a total of 8 weeks of a mild methyl steroid. I really want a taste of something a little more serious.


    Your comments are definitely welcome however....is your concern about my age or my frequency between cycles?



    Im just very itching as I have:
    Toremifene
    Reversitol
    Hawthorne
    Milk Thistle
    P-Plex

  9. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    im on liquid glucosamine, chondroit, msm, cissus, and haulyronic acid. And 8 grams of fish oil per day. I do this everyday.

    I believe that running steroids while Im young is safer than running when I'm older as my hpta more resilient. My growth plates have fused already completely according to MRI's and numerous x-rays.

    I definitely understand your concern. I do have many years ahead of me and theres really no reason besides personal satisfaction to running steroids now.

    But if my test levels are fine, liver values check out...I don't see the harm.

    Its not as if I'm running 12 week cycles of test enanthate and deca with severe stress on hpta.

    I've run 2 small epi cycles.
    right but AAS at least have some studies done on them that Designers dont. You know? I mean It's all cool...do what you want. I have plenty of friend who run stuff, but just know their are possible other problems unbenounced to us. I just make as good of gains on Natural test boosters and an AI as some kids our age on designers. Good Luck though I have read your previous posts and know what you're doing in an attempt to prevent further problems. How long have you had your elbow issue? It might be from growing to quick from the designers...

    My concern is mainly age and just hidden consequences. I am the same age as you 19. I have made it as far as you naturally. from 140-180 Lbs since February just from dieting, training, and sleeping properly with the addition of decent supplementation.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    right but AAS at least have some studies done on them that Designers dont. You know? I mean It's all cool...do what you want. I have plenty of friend who run stuff, but just know their are possible other problems unbenounced to us. I just make as good of gains on Natural test boosters and an AI as some kids our age on designers. Good Luck though I have read your previous posts and know what you're doing in an attempt to prevent further problems. How long have you had your elbow issue? It might be from growing to quick from the designers...

    My concern is mainly age and just hidden consequences. I am the same age as you 19. I have made it as far as you naturally. from 140-180 Lbs since February just from dieting, training, and sleeping properly with the addition of decent supplementation.



    Well I greatly appreciate your concerns.

    I've had my elbow issue since I was 4. I fell and broke my elbow in half and had pins set/cast. Its always bothered me in certain angles of pressing. MRI/CT-Scan showed I have a hole in part of the bone that never fused and will never fused. I also have rough cartlidge that causes the pain which leads to edmea (swelling) inside the joint.

    MSM, Chondr, Gluc, Cissus, Fish, Haulyronic = do not take away pain at all by any means. However, they prevent the elbow joint from the swelling/tightness/stiffness reaction to the cartlidge problem.

    Havoc really irritated my elbow. I want to run something wet now. I've layed out all the possible sides that I know of.

    Pheraplex Sides:
    Prolactin Issues - I have Vitex, B6, and 1-Carboxy (Powerfull)
    Estrogen Issues - I have already tested Toremifene on myself and it should work well for libido and blocking receptors/restarting hpta
    Estrogen Rebound or On-Cycle Aromatase - I have Reversitol containing ATD and 6bromo for PCT or Cycle.

    This should cover all possible gyno issues. The cycle should also be great on the elbow joint because of the aldosterone wetness.



    I've gained a total of at least 35lbs in the last year. I gained 12 from first cycle and virtually nothing from the second. So I've pretty much done 25lbs all naturally during pct's or time off.

    If you haven't tried a designer...its addicting as f*ck man...I literally explode like a nuclear bomb on something as small as epistane. My gains on epi were equivalent to most peoples gains on superdrol. This is why I just want a small taste or pplex. I wish I never started this stuff


    My main concern is if theres an overall decline in natural test levels when fully recovered with designer use...this is why I should have a blood test.



    Major props to 40lbs since feb. Thats rediculous! Way more than me. It can't be all muscle tho?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    Well I greatly appreciate your concerns.

    I've had my elbow issue since I was 4. I fell and broke my elbow in half and had pins set/cast. Its always bothered me in certain angles of pressing. MRI/CT-Scan showed I have a hole in part of the bone that never fused and will never fused. I also have rough cartlidge that causes the pain which leads to edmea (swelling) inside the joint.

    MSM, Chondr, Gluc, Cissus, Fish, Haulyronic = do not take away pain at all by any means. However, they prevent the elbow joint from the swelling/tightness/stiffness reaction to the cartlidge problem.

    Havoc really irritated my elbow. I want to run something wet now. I've layed out all the possible sides that I know of.

    Pheraplex Sides:
    Prolactin Issues - I have Vitex, B6, and 1-Carboxy (Powerfull)
    Estrogen Issues - I have already tested Toremifene on myself and it should work well for libido and blocking receptors/restarting hpta
    Estrogen Rebound or On-Cycle Aromatase - I have Reversitol containing ATD and 6bromo for PCT or Cycle.

    This should cover all possible gyno issues. The cycle should also be great on the elbow joint because of the aldosterone wetness.



    I've gained a total of at least 35lbs in the last year. I gained 12 from first cycle and virtually nothing from the second. So I've pretty much done 25lbs all naturally during pct's or time off.

    If you haven't tried a designer...its addicting as f*ck man...I literally explode like a nuclear bomb on something as small as epistane. My gains on epi were equivalent to most peoples gains on superdrol. This is why I just want a small taste or pplex. I wish I never started this stuff


    My main concern is if theres an overall decline in natural test levels when fully recovered with designer use...this is why I should have a blood test.



    Major props to 40lbs since feb. Thats rediculous! Way more than me. It can't be all muscle tho?
    I got up to around 12% BF but now am back down today at 176 at 9% or lower. I have extreme genetics what can I say . My dad was a body builder in his hay day and still is at 50 years old. My mom is extremely petite and a possibly figure competitor. It just runs in my family blood. We all respond great to virtually any minor tweak. Yeah so here is my question...what makes you want Phera plex versus a 19-nor or estra product?
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  12. pheraplex isnt as strong as a progestin as 19nor and doesn't have the sexual side effects. I like the wetness...19nor isnt wet.

    pheraplex also wet because of aldosterone, NOT estrogen. So my joints will feel good but not from aromitization.

    It has less side effects than superdrol...its quite as hard on HPTA. Some say they feel less shutdown that havoc cycles.

    I dont want to mess with tren because Im way to afraid of prolactin gyno and I dont want to have to run Cabergoline.



    How tall are you, this makes a HUGE difference.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    pheraplex isnt as strong as a progestin as 19nor and doesn't have the sexual side effects. I like the wetness...19nor isnt wet.

    pheraplex also wet because of aldosterone, NOT estrogen. So my joints will feel good but not from aromitization.

    It has less side effects than superdrol...its quite as hard on HPTA. Some say they feel less shutdown that havoc cycles.

    I dont want to mess with tren because Im way to afraid of prolactin gyno and I dont want to have to run Cabergoline.



    How tall are you, this makes a HUGE difference.
    you same height. 5'7-5'8
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  14. damn man, put up a progress thread

  15. I keep track on my own with a picture documentary. I had one when I first joined here, but it got old so I deleted it
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  16. nice transformation...keep up the good work bro

  17. Open question: Does anyone think that it is possible to get as huge as ronnie coleman or jay cutler without using pins and needles? I hear a lot of them say they are natural, but I seriously doubt that kind of gains can be achieved without roids. Then again, I could be wrong, and I don't mind being proven wrong.

  18. entirely possible...but completely not possible to have low bodyfat percentage with ripped muscles at the size.

    World strong man guys are just as big and probably stronger but they are all thick...theres no way you can be that big and strong with low bf unless you are using steroids to perserve muscle.

  19. nice transformation

  20. dam monsterbox

    i totally missed those pics till today


    GREAT F****ing job bro-- what a change

    keep it up man

    the best progress pics I have seen on this site---- clear pics and RESULTS


    boo

  21. Great job man!

    I'm actually going to start up a Havoc cycle I believe. I've been off of Halodrol for a week now and I didn't see the results I wanted. Buying 2 bottles of Havoc tomorrow. Looking for suggestions of a stack and PCT. With the Havoc I'm going to be taking fish oil and an ISO MASS Extreme Gainer shake after workouts. I'm pretty new to this but have been going to the gym for 8 months now, 4-6 times per week. Took Halodrol for 6 weeks(2 boxes). I've actually been reading thru this forums for a few months now, just started posting today.

    November stats
    6ft
    200lbs
    max bench=205
    inclined dumbell press= 65

    January stats
    6ft(obviously)
    210lbs
    max bench=245
    inclinded dumbell press= 90(in my avatar I did 3 sets of 12, haven't tried 100's yet)

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Footloose301 View Post
    Great job man!

    I'm actually going to start up a Havoc cycle I believe. I've been off of Halodrol for a week now and I didn't see the results I wanted. Buying 2 bottles of Havoc tomorrow. Looking for suggestions of a stack and PCT. With the Havoc I'm going to be taking fish oil and an ISO MASS Extreme Gainer shake after workouts. I'm pretty new to this but have been going to the gym for 8 months now, 4-6 times per week. Took Halodrol for 6 weeks(2 boxes). I've actually been reading thru this forums for a few months now, just started posting today.

    November stats
    6ft
    200lbs
    max bench=205
    inclined dumbell press= 65

    January stats
    6ft(obviously)
    210lbs
    max bench=245
    inclinded dumbell press= 90(in my avatar I did 3 sets of 12, haven't tried 100's yet)
    2 boxes of halodrol liquid gels or true halodrol-50? completely different things bro.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    2 boxes of halodrol liquid gels or true halodrol-50? completely different things bro.
    Yes, I know. Thats why I said Halodrol and not Halodrol-50.

    I haven't gotten into anything ridiculously altering. I want something where I'll see some solid gains, so now I'm here looking for advice.

    Thanks.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Footloose301 View Post
    Yes, I know. Thats why I said Halodrol and not Halodrol-50.

    I haven't gotten into anything ridiculously altering. I want something where I'll see some solid gains, so now I'm here looking for advice.

    Thanks.
    oh alright. well good luck man! Don't rush into it
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  25. monsterbox....how do u look today?
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