13 Month Transformation (w/ serious dedication)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    Well I greatly appreciate your concerns.

    I've had my elbow issue since I was 4. I fell and broke my elbow in half and had pins set/cast. Its always bothered me in certain angles of pressing. MRI/CT-Scan showed I have a hole in part of the bone that never fused and will never fused. I also have rough cartlidge that causes the pain which leads to edmea (swelling) inside the joint.

    MSM, Chondr, Gluc, Cissus, Fish, Haulyronic = do not take away pain at all by any means. However, they prevent the elbow joint from the swelling/tightness/stiffness reaction to the cartlidge problem.

    Havoc really irritated my elbow. I want to run something wet now. I've layed out all the possible sides that I know of.

    Pheraplex Sides:
    Prolactin Issues - I have Vitex, B6, and 1-Carboxy (Powerfull)
    Estrogen Issues - I have already tested Toremifene on myself and it should work well for libido and blocking receptors/restarting hpta
    Estrogen Rebound or On-Cycle Aromatase - I have Reversitol containing ATD and 6bromo for PCT or Cycle.

    This should cover all possible gyno issues. The cycle should also be great on the elbow joint because of the aldosterone wetness.



    I've gained a total of at least 35lbs in the last year. I gained 12 from first cycle and virtually nothing from the second. So I've pretty much done 25lbs all naturally during pct's or time off.

    If you haven't tried a designer...its addicting as f*ck man...I literally explode like a nuclear bomb on something as small as epistane. My gains on epi were equivalent to most peoples gains on superdrol. This is why I just want a small taste or pplex. I wish I never started this stuff


    My main concern is if theres an overall decline in natural test levels when fully recovered with designer use...this is why I should have a blood test.



    Major props to 40lbs since feb. Thats rediculous! Way more than me. It can't be all muscle tho?
    I got up to around 12% BF but now am back down today at 176 at 9% or lower. I have extreme genetics what can I say . My dad was a body builder in his hay day and still is at 50 years old. My mom is extremely petite and a possibly figure competitor. It just runs in my family blood. We all respond great to virtually any minor tweak. Yeah so here is my question...what makes you want Phera plex versus a 19-nor or estra product?
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  2. pheraplex isnt as strong as a progestin as 19nor and doesn't have the sexual side effects. I like the wetness...19nor isnt wet.

    pheraplex also wet because of aldosterone, NOT estrogen. So my joints will feel good but not from aromitization.

    It has less side effects than superdrol...its quite as hard on HPTA. Some say they feel less shutdown that havoc cycles.

    I dont want to mess with tren because Im way to afraid of prolactin gyno and I dont want to have to run Cabergoline.



    How tall are you, this makes a HUGE difference.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    pheraplex isnt as strong as a progestin as 19nor and doesn't have the sexual side effects. I like the wetness...19nor isnt wet.

    pheraplex also wet because of aldosterone, NOT estrogen. So my joints will feel good but not from aromitization.

    It has less side effects than superdrol...its quite as hard on HPTA. Some say they feel less shutdown that havoc cycles.

    I dont want to mess with tren because Im way to afraid of prolactin gyno and I dont want to have to run Cabergoline.



    How tall are you, this makes a HUGE difference.
    you same height. 5'7-5'8
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  4. damn man, put up a progress thread

  5. I keep track on my own with a picture documentary. I had one when I first joined here, but it got old so I deleted it
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  6. nice transformation...keep up the good work bro

  7. Open question: Does anyone think that it is possible to get as huge as ronnie coleman or jay cutler without using pins and needles? I hear a lot of them say they are natural, but I seriously doubt that kind of gains can be achieved without roids. Then again, I could be wrong, and I don't mind being proven wrong.

  8. entirely possible...but completely not possible to have low bodyfat percentage with ripped muscles at the size.

    World strong man guys are just as big and probably stronger but they are all thick...theres no way you can be that big and strong with low bf unless you are using steroids to perserve muscle.

  9. nice transformation

  10. dam monsterbox

    i totally missed those pics till today


    GREAT F****ing job bro-- what a change

    keep it up man

    the best progress pics I have seen on this site---- clear pics and RESULTS


    boo

  11. Great job man!

    I'm actually going to start up a Havoc cycle I believe. I've been off of Halodrol for a week now and I didn't see the results I wanted. Buying 2 bottles of Havoc tomorrow. Looking for suggestions of a stack and PCT. With the Havoc I'm going to be taking fish oil and an ISO MASS Extreme Gainer shake after workouts. I'm pretty new to this but have been going to the gym for 8 months now, 4-6 times per week. Took Halodrol for 6 weeks(2 boxes). I've actually been reading thru this forums for a few months now, just started posting today.

    November stats
    6ft
    200lbs
    max bench=205
    inclined dumbell press= 65

    January stats
    6ft(obviously)
    210lbs
    max bench=245
    inclinded dumbell press= 90(in my avatar I did 3 sets of 12, haven't tried 100's yet)

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Footloose301 View Post
    Great job man!

    I'm actually going to start up a Havoc cycle I believe. I've been off of Halodrol for a week now and I didn't see the results I wanted. Buying 2 bottles of Havoc tomorrow. Looking for suggestions of a stack and PCT. With the Havoc I'm going to be taking fish oil and an ISO MASS Extreme Gainer shake after workouts. I'm pretty new to this but have been going to the gym for 8 months now, 4-6 times per week. Took Halodrol for 6 weeks(2 boxes). I've actually been reading thru this forums for a few months now, just started posting today.

    November stats
    6ft
    200lbs
    max bench=205
    inclined dumbell press= 65

    January stats
    6ft(obviously)
    210lbs
    max bench=245
    inclinded dumbell press= 90(in my avatar I did 3 sets of 12, haven't tried 100's yet)
    2 boxes of halodrol liquid gels or true halodrol-50? completely different things bro.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    2 boxes of halodrol liquid gels or true halodrol-50? completely different things bro.
    Yes, I know. Thats why I said Halodrol and not Halodrol-50.

    I haven't gotten into anything ridiculously altering. I want something where I'll see some solid gains, so now I'm here looking for advice.

    Thanks.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Footloose301 View Post
    Yes, I know. Thats why I said Halodrol and not Halodrol-50.

    I haven't gotten into anything ridiculously altering. I want something where I'll see some solid gains, so now I'm here looking for advice.

    Thanks.
    oh alright. well good luck man! Don't rush into it
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  15. monsterbox....how do u look today?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    monsterbox....how do u look today?
    bigger leaner and better lol

    I dropped from 185-6 down to 180 a month ago. I was actually above 10% BF...probably around 13. I'm now down to 11-12.5% according to 3pt crappy caliper test. However, I have some new terrible stretch marks on my biceps, this tells me I've grown some muscle while dropping weight.

    I also just started a cycle of m-drol 3 days ago!

  17. good news man!
    M-Drol....OH ****!!!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ABNRanger View Post
    Open question: Does anyone think that it is possible to get as huge as ronnie coleman or jay cutler without using pins and needles? I hear a lot of them say they are natural, but I seriously doubt that kind of gains can be achieved without roids. Then again, I could be wrong, and I don't mind being proven wrong.
    lol who would say that they are natural?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ABNRanger View Post
    Open question: Does anyone think that it is possible to get as huge as ronnie coleman or jay cutler without using pins and needles? I hear a lot of them say they are natural, but I seriously doubt that kind of gains can be achieved without roids. Then again, I could be wrong, and I don't mind being proven wrong.
    Ya man, I don't know about all that... There's an article in Muscular Development, the March edition, comparing Steroid cycles of the 70's and Present day Bodybuilder's cycles...

    Well they didn't really call them cycles, they were more of all year round pinning sessions, using test e, c, and EOD year round, along with other designers low dosed, (Halotestin, parabolin, trenbolone etc...) using hCG all year round so keep their testes from disappearing, Arimidex/ Femera year round, finestride year round, local inflammatory agents into muscles right before contests, year-round GH, insulin, and Humatrope, clen, winstrol-v, low dose deca. And a bunch more that I forget! Its an insane trend that most bodybuilders have to do because of endorsment/advertising deals/ contests/ conventions/ media exposure, all year round! They have to stay perfect all the time!

    This is from a very respected magazine that in the same addition Patrick Arnold does his usual excerpt, this one actually talked all about PH's! great magizine for the price, and very informative...


    All in all, bodybuilders can not claim to be natural at the level of Ronnie and Jay C... It's physically impossible to get the body that big! Would be nice if we could though...

    Questions/comments, hit it up...



    MM

  20. P.S. Monster... nice transformation bro! Keep it up...




    MM

  21. well looks like I"m going to be stopping steroids for a LONG time.

    Got a blood test our of curiosity....(3 wks of phera and 8 days of M-Drol)

    ALT - 500's
    AST - 200's

    I really don't know what to do. I keep getting sick when I try to eat large meals. I took milk thistle and liv52. I need to PCT but I have toremifene and its bad for your liver too.

  22. wow man, thats definitely not good, it's pretty high. Your body should start to regulate them on it's own slowly, but definitely keep taking the milk thistle and the liv supps, also watch your cholesterol vales too, as this may clot your blood up and slow perfusion to your liver... Also, you really have to watch your sodium and potassium levels, don't make them too extreme... Also drink a ton of water... All I really know to help man... Do some research. Hope this helps.

  23. VERY impressive transformation bud. You've got great potential in front of you. Congrats on your progress!

  24. wow looking at the first and last pic U GOT JACKED

  25. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    well looks like I"m going to be stopping steroids for a LONG time.

    Got a blood test our of curiosity....(3 wks of phera and 8 days of M-Drol)

    ALT - 500's
    AST - 200's

    I really don't know what to do. I keep getting sick when I try to eat large meals. I took milk thistle and liv52. I need to PCT but I have toremifene and its bad for your liver too.
    Definitely an impressive transformation! Great job and dedication!

    Sorry to hear about the test results though. There are some incredibly knowledgeable people on this forum to help you out; just ask. Hope everything works out for you and stay safe.

    Regards,
    E5CMB
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    "Once a Marine, always a Marine"

  26. good for you homie!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    well looks like I"m going to be stopping steroids for a LONG time.

    Got a blood test our of curiosity....(3 wks of phera and 8 days of M-Drol)

    ALT - 500's
    AST - 200's

    I really don't know what to do. I keep getting sick when I try to eat large meals. I took milk thistle and liv52. I need to PCT but I have toremifene and its bad for your liver too.
    So you've been lifting what 15-16 months now, and already have 2 Havoc cycle's, 1 Mdrol cycle, and 1 PP cycle under your belt!?!?

    I think I know the answer to your bolded question! Of course you probably knew the answer long ago - Designers are great...IF YOU USE THEM RESPONSIBLY!!!

    I knew a bunch of kids in high school that got a hold of the original superdrol and just started popping pills, of course everyone wanted better result than the next guy and one kid ended up in the hospital getting his stomach pumped, and the entire football team ended up getting tested.

    I hate to say it but I understand why the government try's so hard to ban AAS/PH/PS - They're perfectly safe when used responsibly, but when does that ever happen?

  28. good progess dude. your test/oral cycle will be your best ever , ill tell you that right now. id say kickstart, but maybe ditch the havoc and run h-drol. i know some hard juicers who swear by h-drol for a good kickstarter. but either or your gonna love it. if you eat to grow i wouldnt be surprised if you push 200 lbs

  29. Quote Originally Posted by RobMusta View Post
    good progess dude. your test/oral cycle will be your best ever , ill tell you that right now. id say kickstart, but maybe ditch the havoc and run h-drol. i know some hard juicers who swear by h-drol for a good kickstarter. but either or your gonna love it. if you eat to grow i wouldnt be surprised if you push 200 lbs
    I love Hdrol

  30. nice gains
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