13 Month Transformation (w/ serious dedication)
- 11-25-2008, 11:24 AM
I'm surprised you did 2 cycles of Havoc with nobody noticing if that was your main concern, you definitely look on in a couple of those pictures
I want to get on the juice too but I'm also worried about people noticing... Probably a good thing, keeping me on track until I'm really big enough to need it.
- 11-25-2008, 12:56 PM
- 11-25-2008, 04:30 PM
11-26-2008, 03:33 AM
11-27-2008, 02:44 PM
If you're training right in almost any regular Gold's Type gym you'll get looks and hear people saying "oh juicer!" all the time.
Christ! People are idiots. If you get caught dead lifting you must be on roids these days right? If you're serious about training people will accuse you anyways when you strut around the gym with your pump on.
My teachers have openly asked me if I juice at school infront of the whole class. All this is brought on because I just sit there eating protein shakes and peanut butter all class while getting thinner and bigger every week.
I'm doing a 3 week H-drol into 3 weeks Epi and possibly followed by 1-T. I hope people accuse me of roiding. All my friends are gonna know the second I turn down a brew at the next party I go to anyways, I'm a notorious drinker. So I've kissed away all possible chances of no one finding out.
The only good part of Orals is you can throw them in a plastic bag and write L-Glutamine on it and no one will ever know the difference.
11-27-2008, 10:42 PM
Im asked this constantly or at least joked about constantly. I've gained 40lbs in a year and look completely different and I love it.
I too have had teachers ask in front of a small class if I'm using steroids in a joking manner.
I really believe this is due to the fact that I have small joints.
Plenty of guys my height have way bigger arms/chest or anything than me, but most people dont have wrists as small as mine....
11-28-2008, 02:31 AM
is there in roids for penis? LOOL small wrist small penis too? kidding... i think ur teacher is insecure if hes male, if ur teacher is a girl i think he is teasing u wit a small **** lol
11-28-2008, 11:04 AM
11-28-2008, 11:18 AM
P.S. Yes! I know you made both post!
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11-28-2008, 11:22 AM
Did you just do the hair cut for looks sake, or did you thin pretty hard?
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11-28-2008, 01:42 PM
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12-12-2008, 02:04 AM
12-13-2008, 01:38 PM
DUDE your gains are unheard of, great job!
took me three years to do what you've done in 13 months ahhaa
seems like your biggest gains came between january 08 - may 08,
people must have been like, "WTF!"
12-15-2008, 12:21 AM
12-15-2008, 05:33 PM
wholly molly!! Nice work man!
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12-23-2008, 04:23 PM
12-23-2008, 06:54 PM
i've been cutting some weight...cut back the calories, lost a good bit of strength but i'm still growing/loosing fat.
Down to 180lbs solid.
Starting a P-Plex/Epistane Bridge on January 6th!!! Stay tuned...this 3 week cut should give me a major shock when it comes to bulking again. Aiming for 195lbs.
12-26-2008, 02:41 PM
12-26-2008, 04:15 PM
However, not experiencing unnecessary legal trouble, not experiencing having the stigma of 'steroid user' over your head for the foreseeable future, and not having your compounds seized by far and away overcome any misplaced sense of duty to a semi-permanent, non-maritally committed relationship.
And to suggest that acting in self-interest in exceptional circumstances necessarily equates to 'having a relationship based on deceit' is a tad dramatic, and dare I say The View-esque!
12-26-2008, 07:32 PM
12-26-2008, 07:35 PM
awesome. Have you ever thought about running an AI like formestane while using something such as activate extreme or stoked? I would recommend checking that out before touching another designer cycle.
12-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Only designers ever have been Epi and only twice.
Last cycle was only 21 days at 30/30/40...it was too dry and killed my elbow and I had to quit.
I plan to start P-Plex on January 7. This will be 85 days since last cycle. According to the time on/pct/timeon+pct this is more than enough....what do you guys think?
I do not want to touch an AI if I don't have too....only in PCT...kills my elbow cartlidge problem.
You guys think its too excessive to run p-plex after 2 cycle of havoc?
Libido is high, nuts are full, strength is increasing...should I get a blood test this week?
1st Havoc 5 weeks - April
2nd Havoc 3 weeks - September
3rd Upcoming P-Plex - January 09
12-26-2008, 08:06 PM
12-26-2008, 08:12 PM
im on liquid glucosamine, chondroit, msm, cissus, and haulyronic acid. And 8 grams of fish oil per day. I do this everyday.
I believe that running steroids while Im young is safer than running when I'm older as my hpta more resilient. My growth plates have fused already completely according to MRI's and numerous x-rays.
I definitely understand your concern. I do have many years ahead of me and theres really no reason besides personal satisfaction to running steroids now.
But if my test levels are fine, liver values check out...I don't see the harm.
Its not as if I'm running 12 week cycles of test enanthate and deca with severe stress on hpta.
I've run 2 small epi cycles....a total of 8 weeks of a mild methyl steroid. I really want a taste of something a little more serious.
Your comments are definitely welcome however....is your concern about my age or my frequency between cycles?
Im just very itching as I have:
12-26-2008, 08:17 PM
My concern is mainly age and just hidden consequences. I am the same age as you 19. I have made it as far as you naturally. from 140-180 Lbs since February just from dieting, training, and sleeping properly with the addition of decent supplementation.
12-26-2008, 08:30 PM
Well I greatly appreciate your concerns.
I've had my elbow issue since I was 4. I fell and broke my elbow in half and had pins set/cast. Its always bothered me in certain angles of pressing. MRI/CT-Scan showed I have a hole in part of the bone that never fused and will never fused. I also have rough cartlidge that causes the pain which leads to edmea (swelling) inside the joint.
MSM, Chondr, Gluc, Cissus, Fish, Haulyronic = do not take away pain at all by any means. However, they prevent the elbow joint from the swelling/tightness/stiffness reaction to the cartlidge problem.
Havoc really irritated my elbow. I want to run something wet now. I've layed out all the possible sides that I know of.
Prolactin Issues - I have Vitex, B6, and 1-Carboxy (Powerfull)
Estrogen Issues - I have already tested Toremifene on myself and it should work well for libido and blocking receptors/restarting hpta
Estrogen Rebound or On-Cycle Aromatase - I have Reversitol containing ATD and 6bromo for PCT or Cycle.
This should cover all possible gyno issues. The cycle should also be great on the elbow joint because of the aldosterone wetness.
I've gained a total of at least 35lbs in the last year. I gained 12 from first cycle and virtually nothing from the second. So I've pretty much done 25lbs all naturally during pct's or time off.
If you haven't tried a designer...its addicting as f*ck man...I literally explode like a nuclear bomb on something as small as epistane. My gains on epi were equivalent to most peoples gains on superdrol. This is why I just want a small taste or pplex. I wish I never started this stuff
My main concern is if theres an overall decline in natural test levels when fully recovered with designer use...this is why I should have a blood test.
Major props to 40lbs since feb. Thats rediculous! Way more than me. It can't be all muscle tho?
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