The 6 foods that work.. 8 week trial (with pics)

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  1. Ill monitor weight again wednesday.. also i may increase my water intake atleast half a gallon. This creatine is causing me to hold subcutaneous water and that happens when there isnt enough water in cells.

    Im quite solid and lean around the waist in the am so im pretty sure its water and not fat.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    Ill monitor weight again wednesday.. also i may increase my water intake atleast half a gallon. This creatine is causing me to hold subcutaneous water and that happens when there isnt enough water in cells.

    Im quite solid and lean around the waist in the am so im pretty sure its water and not fat.
    Water balance is crucial for looking lean. I hate it when I forget to bring my water to work or out with me and my body just bloats up
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Water balance is crucial for looking lean. I hate it when I forget to bring my water to work or out with me and my body just bloats up
    Water balance is more important than we can imagine

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Water balance is crucial for looking lean. I hate it when I forget to bring my water to work or out with me and my body just bloats up
    Quote Originally Posted by titannn View Post
    Water balance is more important than we can imagine
    Man drive around for work so i took my gallon jug with me but it got warm.. gotta invest in a small cooler lol

    And for some reason my tap water has tasted like dirt the past few days.. im on the east coast so maybe the hurricane had something to do with it.
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  5. I'm in bro. Workouts look solid. When was the pic taken at the contest in relation to the first pics posted?

  6. Sorry for the delay to the few of you who are following lol... school and work.. ugh!

    Day 16

    Weighed in at 204.5 wednesday morning right after rolling out of bed. Thats 1 pound down from sunday so I increased carbs to 1/2 cup of oats for meals 1, 2, and 3.

    Im not real sure if I can actually grow and lean up at the same time without gear. Pulcinella accomplished it but he was running some stuff 20 weeks out from his show.

    Im wondering if I should simply try and keep weigh loss to 2 pounds or less each week instead of attempting to stay around my starting weight (209). I look like i may be getting leaner in the mirror and my strength isnt diminishing noticeably.. great pumps and look big with some veins popping in the gym. Theres one vein in my right bicep i use to kinda monitor bf%.. it dissapears when I go over 13 or so percent. Its barely visible now.

    Any suggestions?? Ill probably try and keep my starting weight to make the results seem valid. If im leaner at the end with same bodyweight, it will be a success.

    Tonight was arms, nothing spectacular. Was closegripping 245 for 6-8. Had a nice pump and threw in some FST's at the end.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by SizeUp View Post
    I'm in bro. Workouts look solid. When was the pic taken at the contest in relation to the first pics posted?
    Good to have you bro. Good question, that was this past April. I wasnt conditioned at all.. got 4th. I was the biggest guy there at about 5'9, 218. I really wanna shred but its like im an endo around the waist lol. Hopefully this extremely clean eating will do the trick
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  8. Heres another.. I felt leaner before the contest.. less bloated.
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  9. So what's the overall goal man? Are you wanting more to shred down or gain.. i feel like you are conflicted?? But i would say if you weigh the same w/ lower % at the end that's def a success... and u would have gained muscle and lost fat. Are u taking anythig otc to help hormone wise? even a natty test boost could help

  10. Look good in your contest pic, however; I think you needed 6 more weeks of dieting. I am sub'd Bezoe
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by SizeUp View Post
    So what's the overall goal man? Are you wanting more to shred down or gain.. i feel like you are conflicted?? But i would say if you weigh the same w/ lower % at the end that's def a success... and u would have gained muscle and lost fat. Are u taking anythig otc to help hormone wise? even a natty test boost could help
    No hormones. Just BCAA's, glutamine, creatine, fish oil , and multi. I guess my goal is to recomp. Im gonna follow his regimine.. he stated "grow into a show". He meant that the leaner you get and more you grow, the more clean calories you can take in. He said he started at 2500 cals and 20 weeks later right before the show he was 5000+ cals.
    Quote Originally Posted by JajaNe20 View Post
    Look good in your contest pic, however; I think you needed 6 more weeks of dieting. I am sub'd Bezoe
    I agree. maybe even longer.. all meat and grease and no carbs makes bezoe a tired motherfacker lol. Good to have you
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  12. Day 17

    Ran out of ****ing eggs last night so didnt get any this morning. Everything else diet wise on point. Up to 1.5 gallons h2o.

    Back:
    Pull ups- bodyweight x 10, 8, 8
    DB rows- 120's x 10/10, 10/10, 10/10
    Iso lat pulls- 2 plates +25x 10 , 10
    Seated Rows- 150x10, 10
    Shrugs- 120'sx10, 10... smith machine 135x12/12, 12/12 (these i stand with my side to the bar and shrug each shoulder isolaterally)
    Calves check

    Felt pretty good.. its cold as the arctic in my gym, hardly even break a sweat i hate that ****. Athletes like to be warm when they train lol

    Oh and a side note.. im one belt hole down. Not sure what my weight is I may check that tmrow instead of sunday so I can adjust accordingly
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  13. Im still following along. Hows the temper on this diet now?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Im still following along. Hows the temper on this diet now?
    Temper? Well I am trying to keep my sanity lol
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  15. Day 18

    Man im craving a large pepperoni pizza and cinammon sticks lol.. gotta stay focused.

    203.8 this morning.. **** **** ****

    I keep increasing cals and keep losing weight. Its been a LONG time since I ate this clean consistently. Even when I dieted for the show i was getting about 2 cheat meals a week.

    One thing I am concerned about is the lack of good fats in this diet and their numerous functions in the body- inluding TEST PRODUCTION. Pulcinella was definetely using plenty of gear during this diet.. but for me, without gear, its gonna be hard to keep strength up without adequate fat intake. I can only rely on endogenous test.. thats makes me worry. I wonder how much a few teaspoons of EVOO would affect the results?

    Because my weight was down again, ive added cals again. Another 1/2 cup oats added to meal 4 and 2 whole eggs thrown into the PWO shake.

    Chest tonight:
    Incline DB press 100'sx10, 110'sx8, 100'sx8, 8
    Iso press 2 plates x 10, 8, 8
    DB pullovers 105x10, 8,8
    Incline flys 45'sx10, 70'sx5, 50'sx7 (tried the 70's because last time i did flys i was up around 70's-80 pound dumbbells.. havent done flys in awhile and I weigh alot less now)

    I felt weaker tonight.. indicates a loss of muscle and i can feel it. Im really debating adding some fat..

    Ill have some pics up tmrow
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  16. Craziness with adding more and losing more! Two things that I would like to comment on; one being that two cheat meals a week during a show diet is a "bad idea" Another thing is that just because your losing strength doesn't mean your "losing muscle." Strength is more than just having muscle, there's neural adaptations dealing with recruiting more motor units to perform the designated stressors to the muscle your targeting. Also I am positive you know that some days are better than others, just keep on doing what your doing and see how things go. Don't let one day get ya down bro. Train your mind so that your body will follow. It's all about strength of mind, little mishaps take as they are and steam roll over them. Keep on going I am keepin up with this thread

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JajaNe20 View Post
    Craziness with adding more and losing more! Two things that I would like to comment on; one being that two cheat meals a week during a show diet is a "bad idea" Another thing is that just because your losing strength doesn't mean your "losing muscle." Strength is more than just having muscle, there's neural adaptations dealing with recruiting more motor units to perform the designated stressors to the muscle your targeting. Also I am positive you know that some days are better than others, just keep on doing what your doing and see how things go. Don't let one day get ya down bro. Train your mind so that your body will follow. It's all about strength of mind, little mishaps take as they are and steam roll over them. Keep on going I am keepin up with this thread
    Actually strength and muscle are very closely related. Loss of muscle mass means a loss of muscle fibers able to be recruited through motor units. Motor unit is the nerve cell body and the fibers it innervates. No fibers to innervate means less neurons firing, which will elicit a weaker muscle contraction. A neuron either fires or it doesn't- all or none principle. Nevertheless, you are right about other factors affecting strength, but IME I can tell that my body is getting weaker. Usually happens in pressing movements first. Ive had to decrease weight during legs also. I just dont wanna diminish too much.

    And next time there will be no pizza and cinammon sticks during contest prep.. the gf was a bad influence but shes history

    So my plan is to increase fats through whole eggs. Pulcinella considers this one of the exceptions
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  18. Day 19
    203.4- the lightest ive been in about 2 years

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  19. Happy 10 year anniversary of 9/11 everyone. Lets remember those who lost their lives and those who were courageous and saved lives, and be proud of our nation.
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  20. Look for this kind of oatmeal
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by cham View Post
    Look for this kind of oatmeal
    Whats so special about these oats
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    Whats so special about these oats
    ^^
    There gluten free

  23. Cool i got ya bro. It's an interesting theory adding the cals up like that into a show... i've never done it.. the way he had described... this past time i was ready early and able to cut cardio to almost nothing and add the cals (carbs) back in. I would say add the fats that u want man. LIke you said you're not running gear he was, and you may not have the same type of metab etc etc so you can't follow what he was doing exactly. Curious to see how it turns out at the end of the 8 weeks bro

  24. I see progress in the pics, it's coming along; but you got a long way to go. Keep it up man! Yes I know about the physiology of the muscle; however when I contest diet I tend to get stronger into the diet with my deadlifts and squats and my pressing movements stagnate. After I hit about the 4-5% bodyfat mark my presses seem to drop about 15% but my deadlifts and squat only drop 3-5%. This has been consistant again and again. Don't think your losing muscle from the pics you posted, but your losing bloat & fat. Don't mind fuc* yourself man, keep on trucking Bezoe! Train the mind and the body will follow

  25. IMO, keep the yolks in the eggs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    One thing I am concerned about is the lack of good fats in this diet and their numerous functions in the body- inluding TEST PRODUCTION. Pulcinella was definetely using plenty of gear during this diet.. but for me, without gear, its gonna be hard to keep strength up without adequate fat intake. I can only rely on endogenous test.. thats makes me worry. I wonder how much a few teaspoons of EVOO would affect the results?
    Thats the problem with this diet. If it was salmon instead of tuna then at least you could get in a good amount of fats that way. I'm on HRT so it wouldn't be too bad as far as hormones go, but i'd have to question its affects on skin + hair after 8-12 weeks basically fat free.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by cham View Post
    ^^
    There gluten free
    lol well i dont have celiac's or autism but i get that ****ty feeling in my intestines from eatin too many carbs. where can i get these cheap?
    Quote Originally Posted by SizeUp View Post
    Cool i got ya bro. It's an interesting theory adding the cals up like that into a show... i've never done it.. the way he had described... this past time i was ready early and able to cut cardio to almost nothing and add the cals (carbs) back in. I would say add the fats that u want man. LIke you said you're not running gear he was, and you may not have the same type of metab etc etc so you can't follow what he was doing exactly. Curious to see how it turns out at the end of the 8 weeks bro
    Thats one of the main discrepencies is the damn gear. Makes a HUGE difference when dieting. Im tempting to low dose a mild oral.. may do that just to hold onto muscle
    Quote Originally Posted by JajaNe20 View Post
    I see progress in the pics, it's coming along; but you got a long way to go. Keep it up man! Yes I know about the physiology of the muscle; however when I contest diet I tend to get stronger into the diet with my deadlifts and squats and my pressing movements stagnate. After I hit about the 4-5% bodyfat mark my presses seem to drop about 15% but my deadlifts and squat only drop 3-5%. This has been consistant again and again. Don't think your losing muscle from the pics you posted, but your losing bloat & fat. Don't mind fuc* yourself man, keep on trucking Bezoe! Train the mind and the body will follow
    Yea im sure we've both had plenty of didactic training. Thats funny ive kept about the same strength in deads and pulling.. maybe even stronger in some lifts like db rows. Advice taken.. i will not mind **** myself lol. Dont worry bra Im doing the full 8 weeks at the LEAST.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    IMO, keep the yolks in the eggs.
    I like this idea. He considers it an exception unless prepping for contest. Will do bra

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Thats the problem with this diet. If it was salmon instead of tuna then at least you could get in a good amount of fats that way. I'm on HRT so it wouldn't be too bad as far as hormones go, but i'd have to question its affects on skin + hair after 8-12 weeks basically fat free.
    Well im not lavishing in wealth and tuna has quite a bit of fat too. I may look into salmon.. would frozen salmon be adequate or do you recommend something fresh?

    Yes, skin, hair (dont have much anyway lol), and things like surfactant in the lungs and cell membrane constituents..
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  28. Day 21 (3/8 weeks completed)

    Weight: 200.5 (weigh-in wasnt until tmrow but i was curious)
    Well ive definetely seen a change.. the weight has dropped 7-9 pounds (initial weigh-in was with clothes in the afternoon). So thats about 2 pounds/week avg. - the rule of thumb for weight loss without muscle loss.

    As of today im increasing cals again.. this time with more carbs and fat. The fat will be from egg yolks and possibly salmon you guys recommended.

    So here is the daily plan:
    730am 6 Whole Eggs: 480cal, 42g p, 30g fat
    50g whey protein: 200cal, 50g p
    1 Cup Oats: 604 cal, 104g carbs
    1 Banana: 105 cal, 27g carbs

    1389 cals, 92g protein, 30g fat, 131g carbs
    10am 8oz Tuna: 262 cal, 50g protein, 2g fat
    1 Cup Oats: 604 cal, 104g carbs
    1 Banana: 105 cal, 27g carbs


    971 cals, 50g protein, 2g fat, 131g carbs
    1230am Baked chicken breast: 284 cal, 50g protein, 3g fat
    1 Cup Oats: 604 cal, 104g carbs

    888 cal, 50g protein, 104g carb, 3g fat
    3pm Baked chicken breast: 284 cal, 50g protein, 3g fat
    5oz Broccoli: 54 cal
    Salad

    338 cal, 50g protein, 10g carb, 3g fat
    530pm Baked chicken breast: 284cal, 50g protein, 3g fat
    5 oz Brocolli: 54 cal, 10g carb
    Salad

    338 cal, 50g protein, 10g carb, 3g fat
    8pm 50g whey protein: 200cal, 50g protein
    6 whole eggs: 480 cals, 42g protein, 30g fat

    680 cals, 92g protein, 30g fat
    10pm Baked Chicken breast: 284 cal, 50g protein

    284cal, 50g protein, 3g fat

    TOTAL:
    4888 cals, 434g protein, 386g carbs, 75g fat


    Now ive been slowly adding things in. The initial diet was 2500 cals approximately. This is almost double that after only 3 weeks. Keep in mind ive been adding cals constantly so this is only a bit higher than the last 3 or 4 days- and im still losing weight.

    Anybody think i should change any macros? Calories overall?

    I would like to think that id gain weight with this amount of cals lol.. and i dont wanna cut out the 20 min. PWO cardio so my only option is to bump up food intake.
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  29. The fact that you are pushing the 5k mark and still loing weight amazes me since i eat around 3 a day and can not seem to lose a pound
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  30. This is confusing to me how anyone except (ronnie coleman) would lose weight on this amount of calories ~ 4900. Even so I think Ronnie ate 4,000 to get into show shape so I have no clue what is happening/going on. I usually can give proper advice, but this is crazy and doesn't seem true, However; I didn't say it wasn't true I just said it doesn't seem possible without some malabsorptive disorder
  

  
 

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