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    I just completed final negotiations for a particularly virulent and effective strain of Lactobacillus that is shelf stable. Initial data/studies show it to be effective for the following:

    -Reduces/eliminates protein related GI distress/gas
    -Bolsters intestinal membrane, increasing the effectiveness of digestion
    -detaches/destroys pathogens
    -bolsters immune function
    -prevents bowel irritation/helps IBS
    -reduces Nitrogen excretion/increases protein absorption

    This strain is shelf stable (requires no refrigeration) and enteric coated, dissolved in oil. There will be a 5 day loading period of 2 caps, followed by a maintenance dose of 1 cap per day.

    Testers should have workout and diet dialed in, obtain quite a bit of protein from shakes, experience some gastric distress from said shakes (farting, stomach pain, bloating, etc.), may have had problems with IBS, and be willing to post daily updates. THIS IS CRITICAL..NO FLAKES. Logs should be posted here, AM, and BB.com.

    There will be an article forthcoming, complete with studies/references.

    Please post interest here, rather than PMing me.
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    **** me, sign me up! Oh and I can jar my gas up and ship it to you if you have any doubt to my GI Distress
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    I would love to use some in my cycle I'm going to start soon..By chance can I use and log that with havoc? haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid?
    I would love to use some in my cycle I'm going to start soon..By chance can I use and log that with havoc? haha
    This would be an interesting combo. You are in.
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    Dsade did it again. I'ma go buy a nutraplanet t shirt and pimp the **** out your site man. Ohh dsade get some nutraplanet tank tops man. When will this be out so I can order some? I hope soon because I plan to start my cycle once Ap comes out.
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    right here dude... my wife is ready to kick me out due to my gas....it has seriously gotten out of control...
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    I guess I should have read that entire post before I PM'd ya, huh?

    Definately something I'd love to try out. High protein diets are a killer, literally.
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    anything to get rid of the gas... let me know when it'll be on the site. i def need a bottle of this.
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    I have been getting extreme stomach bloating. If this is able to help that, i would def be in.
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    Id love to do it as well. I just started my havoc log though. I eat at least 320gs of protein everyday and i definately need something to help with digestion. If it stops the bloating and gas, I'll come back for more.
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    Dsade,
    Count me and my wife (don't tell her I volunteered her hahaha) in on this. I'm not necessarily looking for freebies. Is this stuff available for sale?
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    If it stops me from having gas, its the product of the year. Let me put it to the test. My fiance would love NP forever.
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    Anyone using Optimum Nutrition 100% whey (like me) needs something like this. But is the suppression of gas really a good thing?
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    I dont know about suppression, but elimination would be nice. If the food is fully digested, gas should be reduced.
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    Gas is not a normal thing. I am pushing this hard, but realistically we are looking at a January 15th retail release.
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    damn i'll be in pct then hmmm...i'll do another log haha mass fx or something.
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    Selected testers will probably get it much sooner. Hence, the test takes place weeeeell before product launch.

    I'd say you should get to use it on your current cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns
    Selected testers will probably get it much sooner. Hence, the test takes place weeeeell before product launch.

    I'd say you should get to use it on your current cycle.
    Correct. testers will receive product next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    I just completed final negotiations for a particularly virulent and effective strain of Lactobacillus that is shelf stable. Initial data/studies show it to be effective for the following:

    -Reduces/eliminates protein related GI distress/gas
    -Bolsters intestinal membrane, increasing the effectiveness of digestion
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    -reduces Nitrogen excretion/increases protein absorption

    This strain is shelf stable (requires no refrigeration) and enteric coated, dissolved in oil. There will be a 5 day loading perion of 2 caps, followed by a maintenance dose of 1 cap per day.

    Testers should have workout and diet dialed in, obtain quite a bit of protein from shakes, experience some gastric distress from said shakes (farting, stomach pain, bloating, etc.), may have had problems with IBS, and be willing to post daily updates. THIS IS CRITICAL..NO FLAKES. Logs should be posted here, AM, and BB.com.

    There will be an article forthcoming, complete with studies/references.

    Please post interest here, rather than PMing me.
    So is this similar to the bacteria that can be prescribed, ie Lactinex?

    We use it alotin the hospital setting for patients undergoing antibiotic therapy that are particularly susceptible to C. Diff or are undergoing treatment for CDiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerDeer
    So is this similar to the bacteria that can be prescribed, ie Lactinex?

    We use it alotin the hospital setting for patients undergoing antibiotic therapy that are particularly susceptible to C. Diff or are undergoing treatment for CDiff.
    VERY similar, but Lactinex uses a dried bacteria. When the bacteria are dried like this, they begin to die off. Refrigeration slows this, but eventually you are left with a useless product.

    This strain of Lacto (search for KE-99) is VERY hearty. We are sealing these in oil-filled capsules, which actually allows the bacteria to thrive in a room temperature environment.

    These will be EXTREMELY effective at contributing to healthy GastroFlora.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    VERY similar, but Lactinex uses a dried bacteria. When the bacteria are dried like this, they begin to die off. Refrigeration slows this, but eventually you are left with a useless product.

    This strain of Lacto (search for KE-99) is VERY hearty. We are sealing these in oil-filled capsules, which actually allows the bacteria to thrive in a room temperature environment.

    These will be EXTREMELY effective at contributing to healthy GastroFlora.
    I came up with this: Products

    Looks quite promising!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerDeer
    I came up with this: Products

    Looks quite promising!
    That is the very one, only with a superior delivery system. We licensed the organism from them, and we are going to be able to offer it for a more affordable price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerDeer
    I came up with this: Products

    Looks quite promising!
    Hmmm, that looks very interesting indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    That is the very one, only with a superior delivery system. We licensed the organism from them, and we are going to be able to offer it for a more affordable price.
    It should be recommended especially for those that are on any antibiotics. Yogurt would not be able to touch this product (other than the associated nutrition content).

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    I think I could definatley use a product like this. Especially since I drink 2-3 shakes a day with 90gs of protein.lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstrong20
    I think I could definatley use a product like this. Especially since I drink 2-3 shakes a day with 90gs of protein.lol
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    what would the colony forming units on this product be? I have a history of extremely bad Ibs, although it is under control now. Dont even have to use my anti spasmodic's anymore. currently I use Gnc super acidophilus which has 10 billion cfu's per serving. it gets pricey though because I use 4-6 a day and also buy it for my wife. I would really be interested in this.
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    Each capsule will have 1-2 billion. The standard lactobacillus you get at GNC begins dying off as soon as they are dried into a powder. Even with refrigeration, the actual dosage would be around 1/10 of that.

    In addition, the virility of the particular strain is quite stout, and there is something they secrete that restores intestinal mucosa.

    Simply put, this kicks ANY existing probiotics ass (pun intended).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid?
    you and me both brother
    Sorry for the o/t, but basically just curious...do you guys drink the large shakes out of necessity (due to not being able to get enough meals in for whatever reason) or do you notice drastic results over when you don't? thanks fellas
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    Quote Originally Posted by warnerve
    Sorry for the o/t, but basically just curious...do you guys drink the large shakes out of necessity (due to not being able to get enough meals in for whatever reason) or do you notice drastic results over when you don't? thanks fellas
    personally the second...mostly in terms of lean gains.
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    I would love to try this as i among many others experience the ups and downs of super eating. I woul dlike to use this product along with a magnesium supplement and C2 by usp. I have recently finished alog and am ready to start another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    personally the second...mostly in terms of lean gains.
    Thanks D...I could really use more lean and less gains so that sounds good
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    Quote Originally Posted by warnerve
    Sorry for the o/t, but basically just curious...do you guys drink the large shakes out of necessity (due to not being able to get enough meals in for whatever reason) or do you notice drastic results over when you don't? thanks fellas
    Honestly i hate shakes so i add like 4 cans of tuna, olive oil, oatmeal and ice cream if I'm bulking. My shakes jus tend to be that high in protein and calories. If you can imagine the gas from that, you can see why i would want to use this product.

    'EDIT' dsade how soon or when can i find out if i am chosen to be a tester and give you my address for shipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid?
    Honestly i hate shakes so i add like 4 cans of tuna, olive oil, oatmeal and ice cream if I'm bulking. My shakes jus tend to be that high in protein and calories. If you can imagine the gas from that, you can see why i would want to use this product.
    Ahhh is this all together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warnerve
    Ahhh is this all together?
    yea but if i'm adding ice cream no tuna...honestly try adding tuna in a shake you don't even taste it. I also have some creatine in there and that makes it a lil pasty.
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    Crap...there goes our idea for Tuna Mint Chip.
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    Always one step ahead of you man..i just noticed the NOW brand and i'm thinking about getting some. i'm sure yours is a lot better but how do you think there's compare
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid?
    Always one step ahead of you man..i just noticed the NOW brand and i'm thinking about getting some. i'm sure yours is a lot better but how do you think there's compare
    The freeze-dried probiotics simply do not survive and have a hard time making it through the stomach intact. The intestine is where the GastroFlora need to thrive, which is why ours is enteric coated.

    It looks like it would be a decent addition, but the strain we are using is particulary hearty, and effective.

    Going to be naming the testers tomorrow, and most likely shipping Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid?
    yea but if i'm adding ice cream no tuna...honestly try adding tuna in a shake you don't even taste it. I also have some creatine in there and that makes it a lil pasty.
    Honestly, I think there's kind of a mental barrier that prevents me from drinking blended tuna, but you def get props for being able to do it regularly. Now dsade, send this man his probiotic, he stinks!
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