List your positive effects of TRT, tone, better skin etc.

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I just think people feel so positive and to them it is like a cycle when you have been low for a very long time. I also absolutely agree with Matrix and others that think it is very ill advised to have 20 somethings going on TRT and not knowing what the reason is. However, when you hit your late 30s and 40s, to feel the testosterone again is a damn miracle.
    Thats what I'm looking for...a miracle. I hate feeling depleted by 1clock in the afternoon, it sucks and this is after trying all kinds of diets and supplements. Back in the 40's and 50's, they used to prescribe Test for men with low energy, moods etc, and this is back when food was more real, not like today with xenoestrogens in plastic, meats etc. It wasn't until big pharma saw a market for moods and erections that they discontinued prescribing test. I'm okay with injecting once or twice a week, then getting off with proper PCT. Can I do it the rest of my life? sure, I don't see the big issue, it takes less time then to shave and as long as the dose is small, no harm done.


  2. Also, it shouldn't prescribed for 20 or most early 30 year olds until all else is ruled out. I have exhausted every possible thing, my sleep is good, but I don't wake up with wood. My food intake is healthy, but my energy is low and I know all my food allergens and avoided them...still nothing. I tired every new latest test booster and it worked within maybe an hour of taking it, like a blip on the radar screen, if that...waste of money IMO. I wrestled with the idea of going on TRT for years now and I've come down to the conclusion to give this a try.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    Also, it shouldn't prescribed for 20 or most early 30 year olds until all else is ruled out. I have exhausted every possible thing, my sleep is good, but I don't wake up with wood. My food intake is healthy, but my energy is low and I know all my food allergens and avoided them...still nothing. I tired every new latest test booster and it worked within maybe an hour of taking it, like a blip on the radar screen, if that...waste of money IMO. I wrestled with the idea of going on TRT for years now and I've come down to the conclusion to give this a try.
    if you need it you cant beat it. i wouldnt trade it for anything

  4. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    IMO, 44 is still too young generally for TRT. I'm 50 and my last test levels came back HIGH, and I was on nothing. And when I say HIGH - I'm talking about levels that a guy in his early 20's would get excited about. All I do is lift heavy and eat a lot of meat and yeah, I do things like DAA, etc (though I wasn't on DAA during my last bloods).

    Doctor's HYPE TRT. They have commercials up on the TV and the message is ... "yeah, you're getting old - and your T-Levels are going to go down!" and it's totally a self-fulfilling prophesy. They show a "before" picture of a dumpy guy with "Low-T" - and he's all depressed and tired, then an after shot of him skipping around the TV tube and thinking about the next chick he's gonna bang after he's got his TRT. So everyone falls in line for the shots.

    The "down" sides? Your nuts shrivel up. If western civilization collapses and you can't get to your test - you're going to be ten times worse off because you can't produce your own test. I believe you can't father kids anymore after enough time on it.

    I'm not saying that people on TRT are losers - they are not. A lot of men need to be on TRT for whatever reason - that's a fact and I don't fault them one bit for it. However, the prevailing attitude on this board seems to make TRT out to be some kind of ultimate goal. The goal, in fact, should be to stay off it for as long as humanly possible.
    My first question for you Hundy, is why are you in a TRT forum? Secondly, most of us go to the doctor because we can't sleep, we can't get through a workout without almost falling over, we have no sexual desire, even though are wives and girl friends are freakin hot, we almost cannot function at work because it is tough to keep our mind on it. TRT is not glamourous, we do not choose to be on it, we would all love to have your test levels, and you know what we wouldn't be in this forum lurking around, like you. Please if you have nothing to contribute, sign out. BTW I am 46.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by ambulldog View Post
    if you need it you cant beat it. i wouldnt trade it for anything
    I can't wait, I have a hunch this will be it.
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  6. Try to get to a point where you can self administer at home. The convenience is unreal. 2-3 minutes out of your week to feel like a million bucks.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    Hot Topic? You mean that TRT is the primary anti-aging technique? I disagree. There's lots of things that we talk about in this forum - TRT is just one. Just because this is the "anti-aging" forum - does that mean everyone needs to have a favorable opinion of TRT in every case that it's used or get the hell out of here?

    And yeah - it SHOULD be talked about. What I'm commenting on here is what I've observed as a general lack of curiosity among members for what CAUSES Low T. Why - at 50, do I have high levels while others in their late 30's need TRT due to low ones? If I were in my late 30's and had Low T - I'd want to know exactly why that was before jumping on TRT - and no, I would not accept ... "You're getting old" as a legitimate answer from a doctor.

    Watch the threads as they come up, bro - you will find guys practically celebrating the fact that they've tested low enough to get TRT. In very few cases will you find a guy past 35 scratching his head and saying ... "Well Doc says I need TRT - but WTF? He can't tell me why!" ... people just accept the answer they're given and go for the shots.

    No doubt - I will be on TRT one day - my goal is to hold out until I'm at least 70 though. Will I make it? Who knows? But I'd be on it tomorrow I'm sure if I took a negative self-defeating attitude about it.

    It's just this general attitude that everything has to go downhill so fast. It's like the old guys in my gym (who are five to ten years younger than me) who say ... "Oh I'm too old to build muscle - I just come in here to maintain". And then I tell them ... "I always come in to BUILD more muscle - no ****ing doctor is going to tell me I can't build more muscle at my age!"

    If you think you can't do it - you won't do it.

    Again - TRT is necessary for some people ... I'm not debating that. But ... if I were in the age range of anything below age 55 I'd ask the doctor why in the hell my test fell off - is something else wrong? Matrix has it dead on the money about taking a whole body approach to finding the causes of Low-T.
    Hundy we understand your point, but when your sitting @ under 300 ng/dl and the only thing out of balance is your T, you go for the Gel, the shots or the pellets so you can feel normal again. Your point is for the one young guy coming to this forum that thinks he is going to all of a sudden build huge muscles because he is on TRT, well lets face it that is not going to happen. Those guys will become educated quick enough once they begin TRT and figure that out. The question this guy asked in this thread is how has TRT improved your life, do you have any information on that subject to provide?

  8. I just got all my stuff via FedX, test, clomid, tomaixfen, HCG, Anastrazole, all my stuff for the next 10 weeks. I think I'll start tonight, I'm supposed to start at 200mg a week of test cyp, any idea how long it takes to feel it?

  9. It took me and the doc about 8 weeks to get it right. You'll likely feel 200mg in 24 hours.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    It took me and the doc about 8 weeks to get it right. You'll likely feel 200mg in 24 hours.
    I did 100mg last night, I'll do another 100 on Wednesday. Its hard to tell right now if anything can be felt on a low dose, but I'll see as the day progresses. I'm also aware of placebo effects too, so I'll keep an honest journal.
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