LG Sciences 1-ANDROSTENOLONE
- 02-01-2015, 04:09 AM
- 02-01-2015, 10:29 AM
- 02-01-2015, 11:17 AM
02-01-2015, 11:44 AM
It converts to testosterone.... its a fantastic test base which is why its included with the bulk kit
02-01-2015, 12:26 PM
Right. But DHEA converts to test and the nomenclature is strikingly similar which is why I asked. I'm sorry if I'm way off I just wanted some more info as to what kind of compound it is. My research wasn't telling me much.
02-01-2015, 06:50 PM
02-03-2015, 10:30 PM
Their 1-Androstenelone is actually a 4-DHEA product. Not sure why they chose to name it what they did.
Either one of these products would stack very nicely with their EpiAndro product.
02-04-2015, 04:16 AM
Thanks for reply.
Looking at LG SCIENCES Bulk Andro Kit
1-andro + m1d + form-xt
Is firm-xt enough as far as a pct is concerned or would anyone recommend anything alongside ?
02-04-2015, 05:01 AM
02-04-2015, 09:32 AM
02-04-2015, 10:38 AM
02-04-2015, 12:17 PM
02-04-2015, 12:29 PM
Right now I am doing this stack with M140 and I have never seen such gains. Freakin me out
Crazy old bastard takes it up a notch 1-andro M1D
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02-04-2015, 12:40 PM
03-05-2015, 02:23 PM
Would 1-andro be a good add-on to the Battle Hardening kit containing Pbold and 17 pro andro?
Would 4-6ml day with 4ml before workout and one afternoon be good?
On none training days 2ml morning 2ml noon and 2ml evening?
How about lethargy with this stack?
Or would epiandro 3 times (3x2ml) a day be a better option? lethargy?
Goal is a lean gains I have about 8% body fat as of now but would like to put on a bit more mass without adding to much fat for the summer.
03-05-2015, 05:35 PM
LG's products are named a bit strangely. Their 1-ando is actually a 5-andro product, even says so on their website under the PH ban info tab. The nomenclature on the label matches up to 5-andro. 5-andro is an excellent compound to COMBAT lethargy. So yes, it would work great with the battle hardening kit.
I've read good things about their epiandro (this time they used the correct name for the compound), and it should keep you lean, although the rest of the kit would likely take care of that department.
The 1-andro (5-andro) should be better for anti-lethargy effects.
03-05-2015, 06:32 PM
03-05-2015, 06:34 PM
03-05-2015, 06:35 PM
03-05-2015, 06:37 PM
03-06-2015, 02:12 AM
Maybe just run the bulk andro kit for 4 weeks then add a 4 week epiandro 17 pro andro run right after for a total 8 weeks stack?
The M1D in the bulk andro kit should from what I have read combat any signs of ethargic feelings from the 1-andro?
Is 8 weeks to long to run on these compunds or should I be safe?
As a PCT I will run the Form-XT as suggested beginning at 2/day from week 8 and then up the dosage to 5/day weeks 9-10
Activate xtreme weeks 9-12
Lean Xtreme week 11-14
Triazole week 11-14
Anabeta Elite week 11-14
A total of 6 weeks PCT, overkill for this stack? Should I have some Novla/clomid on standby?
03-06-2015, 02:50 AM
Oh and I have personally had a bad experience running Activate xtreme at the same time as Anabeta. Activate has L-dopa in it, which converts to dopamine, and anabeta elite has eleuthero, and MAOI which inhibits the breakdown of dopamine....you might end up flying waaaay to high. I'd choose one or the other.
03-06-2015, 03:19 AM
Will run the Anabeta elite after the activate xtreme beginning at week 12 instead.
How do you think about the stack? Is 8 weeks to long to run with these compunds? Any estrogenic sides with bulk andro kit?
03-06-2015, 03:45 AM
I want to apologize for saying that 1-andro was actually 5-andro in a previous post. It is actually the M1D that is 5-andro. This is taken directly from their website:
5-DHEA is regular old DHEA. Same thing. The nomenclature on the bottle checks out. But the difference between regular DHEA and M1D is that LG also includes AIs to prevent it from converting to estrogen, instead converting into test and other anabolic hormones.Originally Posted by LG Sciences Website
Even stranger is the fact that they list their 4-DHEA produce as 1-andro (common name use for 1-DHEA). The nomenclature also checks out here too. 4-DHEA also converts to test so lethargy shouldn't be happening even though some people have reported it. Unless they mislabeled the ingredients which I don't think they did.
Overall I'm not sure how much "bulk" the bulking andro kit will really put on, but it will definitely spike your test levels so you should see some good benefits.
More interesting to me is the battle hardener kit which contains pBOLD, a prohormone to Boldenone.
edit: I also want to add that if you're taking that many liquid sublingual drops, you should space them out throughout the day. The cells inside your mouth can quickly get saturated and not allow any more liquid to diffuse into your bloodstream if you dose too many all at the same time.
03-06-2015, 04:03 AM
Would you recommend 2 battle hardening kit for a total 8 week run insted? Of the above stack with bulk andro 4 weeks and then 4 weeks epiandro and 17 pro andro?
Does m1d (5-dhea) converts directly to estrogen or is this done though the arasomat enzyme?
03-06-2015, 04:16 AM
I can't really reccommend the battle hardener kit, since I have never tried it. I would like to in the future though, as it intrigues me. Boldenone, also known by its brand name Equipoise, is an interesting steroid and I would like to see a prohormone which can effectively convert to it and give good results. I also wonder about the 17-pro andro, which is progestin based so it should give good hard gains if it works like other progestins. I would run M1D to combat lethargy alongside these.
Maybe you should think about forgetting about the kits and running 8 weeks of pBOLD and M1D. That's what I would do. You could also throw in EpiAndro to that stack and probably get some good results although it's not necessary.
Edit: Perhaps someone who has tried pBOLD could give some feedback here.
03-06-2015, 05:10 AM
03-06-2015, 06:31 AM
03-06-2015, 07:34 AM
Am a bit worried about estrogenic sides with M1D but as I understand it the chans a minimal to none if you run the recommendation.
Still thinking about the bulk andro followed by epi andro and 17 pro andro...
Can't get ahold of the pbol standalone were I live.
03-06-2015, 11:00 AM
xo0ox - the stack you mentioned will work, but why do you want to switch up the compounds halfway through? I say pick 2-3 and give them a full 8 week run. Epiandro is great for combating estro sides, so maybe run it instead of M1D like Dreamweaver did. Epiandro plus the battle hardener 8 week stack sounds awesome.
03-06-2015, 11:15 AM
03-06-2015, 12:14 PM
03-06-2015, 12:15 PM
03-06-2015, 01:02 PM
03-06-2015, 01:37 PM
Like many other I don't expect becoming the hulk in 2 weeks :-) but slow lasting hard working gains is my melody.
How would they feel different compared to etch other.
Strength? Libido? Hunger? Muscle gain? Hardness?
Many questions I know ;-) First PH stack.
About 10 weeks after this one I will run a cutting andro kit to shred the last remaining fat for the summer (4 week run)
03-06-2015, 01:47 PM
Some people use epiandro as a "test base" to keep up libido and combat lethargy. But I personally have never used it.
pBOLD converts to boldenone which can convert to estrogen, although at a relatively mild rate. This is actually a good thing as having 0 estrogen in the body can have very bad effects such as painful joints and loss of libido. I was going to say you should run M1D for its estro conversion but then I realized that pBOLD should be able to take care of this area.
03-06-2015, 02:46 PM
Low estrogen can also limit muscle gain but in term also rid the body of water retention.
But so close to the summer lean gains is a must so pbol, 17-proandro andro and epiandro seems to be the best bet.
How would lean dry gains work with 2x bulking kits with epiandro in comparison?
03-06-2015, 02:57 PM
03-06-2015, 03:21 PM
However as of now I'm around 8% body fat with visible abs and veins on arms legs etc.
Last summer I was down to 3% = very moody :-)
Here I am with about 6% fat
As of now so close to the summer hard mass gain is out of the question as some fat will always be the result of a bulk even if it's lean.
However gaining a some mass and at the same time cutting fat slowly or just maintain fat is somewhat possible with PH:s so that's what I want to know how that is best done and what combination is the best to achive that.
pBol, 17-pro Andro and epi Andro seems to be a good stack but would 8 weeks of bulk andro with epi andro be to wet for my goal?
Maybe best to save that stack for after summer when hard gains begins. I keep a low fat % during last autumn and winter and did not gain a lot of mass after summer and that is what I'm paying for now :-/
03-06-2015, 04:36 PM
Yea I would only do the bulking stack while eating a ****ton. Like I said M1D is basically suped up DHEA so it's going to help with muscle endurance and fullness and not really with leanness. I mean it will help with leanness, but it's not specifically designed for that. Same with 1-andro which converts to test. And yes your idea of doing the bulk kit first followed by the 17 pro and epi will work for your purposes but personally I would prefer to give these compounds a full 8 weeks to see their benefits instead of switching them up halfway through. If you wanted you could run two bulk kits in a row, and add in the epiandro or the 17 pro or both for the second half to finish off the cycle nice and lean but that gets pricey.
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