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  1. Just got done my leg, shoulder, and ab workout. This stuff really makes me push. Which got me thinking I might want to change from a 2 day split to a 3 day split to prevent overtraining since I'm not using anything to give me an anabolic advantage to speed up recovery. What do you guys think?
    I will work for supplements!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93
    Just got done my leg, shoulder, and ab workout. This stuff really makes me push. Which got me thinking I might want to change from a 2 day split to a 3 day split to prevent overtraining since I'm not using anything to give me an anabolic advantage to speed up recovery. What do you guys think?
    You can usually work out more when you're on.
    What's your current split look like?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.
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  3. Day 1 is a chest, back, and arms. Day 2 is Legs, shoulders, and abs. Day 3 off then back to day one.
    I will work for supplements!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93
    Day 1 is a chest, back, and arms. Day 2 is Legs, shoulders, and abs. Day 3 off then back to day one.
    What exercises & reps/sets?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  5. Day 1
    chest superset Press and fly 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    back superset rows and pulldowns 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    arms superset reverse grip pulldowns and reverse grip curls 3 working sets about 10 reps each
    arm superset kickbacks and curls 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    Day 2
    squats 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    leg extensions 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    leg curl 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    upright rows 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    Military press 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    front raises 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    side raises 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    bent over rear raises 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    seated weighted crunch 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    I will work for supplements!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93
    Day 1
    chest superset Press and fly 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    back superset rows and pulldowns 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    arms superset reverse grip pulldowns and reverse grip curls 3 working sets about 10 reps each
    arm superset kickbacks and curls 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    Day 2
    squats 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    leg extensions 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    leg curl 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    upright rows 1 warm up 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    Military press 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    front raises 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    side raises 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    bent over rear raises 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    seated weighted crunch 3 working sets about 10 reps each last set to fail
    Damn. Have you been seeing growth with that?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  7. I'm just getting back to working out. I have always pushed myself and had decent growth., but I'm not on the supplements I use to be on. Can't afford them
    I will work for supplements!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Just got done my leg, shoulder, and ab workout. This stuff really makes me push. Which got me thinking I might want to change from a 2 day split to a 3 day split to prevent overtraining since I'm not using anything to give me an anabolic advantage to speed up recovery. What do you guys think?
    Answer these questions really quickie pimp

    1)How do you feel when you get out of bed?

    2)How do you feel during the day?

    3)Appetite changes?

    4)Still getting stronger / progressing right?



    Bro....it TAKES ALOT to get overtrained....are you doing close to 1rm deadlifts and squats 4-7 times a week? If not, you have absolutely nothing to worry about...and I mean absolutely nothing. Basically you will know when your overtrained.....plus its very rare for someone to get overtrained / overreached in their lifetime.

    If your not progressing or feeling a bit down, its most likely your macro nutrient intake is not enough, and/or stress. I mean so many other factors will play into this aswell, but in conclusion overtraining isn't something to ever worry about unless your going balls out with potent CNS exercises like deadlifts/squats/power cleans..etc......go ahead and train twice a day, 6-7 times a week brother!
    *LG Sciences Board Rep*
    Changing Lives is what I crave.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheHardOne View Post
    Answer these questions really quickie pimp1)How do you feel when you get out of bed?2)How do you feel during the day?3)Appetite changes?4)Still getting stronger / progressing right?Bro....it TAKES ALOT to get overtrained....are you doing close to 1rm deadlifts and squats 4-7 times a week? If not, you have absolutely nothing to worry about...and I mean absolutely nothing. Basically you will know when your overtrained.....plus its very rare for someone to get overtrained / overreached in their lifetime. If your not progressing or feeling a bit down, its most likely your macro nutrient intake is not enough, and/or stress. I mean so many other factors will play into this aswell, but in conclusion overtraining isn't something to ever worry about unless your going balls out with potent CNS exercises like deadlifts/squats/power cleans..etc......go ahead and train twice a day, 6-7 times a week brother!
    The only thing I have really noticed is that sometimes the muscle is still sore when it came time to work it again. I'm more hungry and so far strength is still climbing. When it comes to twice a day workouts I have only done that when on a good prohormone.
    I will work for supplements!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by TheHardOne

    Answer these questions really quickie pimp

    1)How do you feel when you get out of bed?

    2)How do you feel during the day?

    3)Appetite changes?

    4)Still getting stronger / progressing right?

    Bro....it TAKES ALOT to get overtrained....are you doing close to 1rm deadlifts and squats 4-7 times a week? If not, you have absolutely nothing to worry about...and I mean absolutely nothing. Basically you will know when your overtrained.....plus its very rare for someone to get overtrained / overreached in their lifetime.

    If your not progressing or feeling a bit down, its most likely your macro nutrient intake is not enough, and/or stress. I mean so many other factors will play into this aswell, but in conclusion overtraining isn't something to ever worry about unless your going balls out with potent CNS exercises like deadlifts/squats/power cleans..etc......go ahead and train twice a day, 6-7 times a week brother!
    Every one has a different theory...
    Muscles heal in 48 hours is what I've read. Thing is though you do need rest or you will get burnt out. I also read where someone posted that he can't over train, only under eat.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Every one has a different theory... Muscles heal in 48 hours is what I've read. Thing is though you do need rest or you will get burnt out. I also read where someone posted that he can't over train, only under eat.
    Well no one has ever said I under eat
    I will work for supplements!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Well no one has ever said I under eat
    Me neither
    After a year off, I'm back

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    The only thing I have really noticed is that sometimes the muscle is still sore when it came time to work it again. I'm more hungry and so far strength is still climbing. When it comes to twice a day workouts I have only done that when on a good prohormone.
    Ah I see, slow recovery? But I was talking about training frequency, hmmm, lemme come back to ya in a couple hours lol, on my way to the gym haha. Ill help ya don't worry!

    *LG Sciences Board Rep*
    Changing Lives is what I crave.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Every one has a different theory...
    Muscles heal in 48 hours is what I've read. Thing is though you do need rest or you will get burnt out. I also read where someone posted that he can't over train, only under eat.
    True, but thats not my theory, High Level coaches like Charles Poliquin / Christian Thibadeau are the guys who study this subject(overtraining/nervous system...etc..).

    And Flex Magazine will tell you stuff like a muscle heals in 48 hours, which can be true. It just depends, on sooo many factors. Resting is for babies Aaron!! lol jk, a night of sleep is enough rest my dude, I mean if you really feel like you need a day off or your not progressing, thgats when you take the day off.

    oh that reminds me I gotta go check on your log....im really curious to see the effects of PH17!
    *LG Sciences Board Rep*
    Changing Lives is what I crave.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by TheHardOne

    True, but thats not my theory, High Level coaches like Charles Poliquin / Christian Thibadeau are the guys who study this subject(overtraining/nervous system...etc..).

    And Flex Magazine will tell you stuff like a muscle heals in 48 hours, which can be true. It just depends, on sooo many factors. Resting is for babies Aaron!! lol jk, a night of sleep is enough rest my dude, I mean if you really feel like you need a day off or your not progressing, thgats when you take the day off.

    oh that reminds me I gotta go check on your log....im really curious to see the effects of PH17!
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    The only thing I have really noticed is that sometimes the muscle is still sore when it came time to work it again. I'm more hungry and so far strength is still climbing. When it comes to twice a day workouts I have only done that when on a good prohormone.
    Strength still climbing! Awesome! Keep it up! Yeah man keep progressing until you stop progressing! Until then, I wouldn't worry too much about doing too much. Your doing great!
    *LG Sciences Board Rep*
    Changing Lives is what I crave.

  17. Insanity X3 Today I decided to try out 3 doses. Wow! Workout was intense. I up the resistance and intensity. It kept me pushing hard all the way to the end. The pump was so intense it hurt. I love it. On the label they should put 1 to 3 doses. Workout today was my chest, back and arms. Still doing the supersets.
    I will work for supplements!

  18. Took today off and spent it with family.
    I will work for supplements!

  19. Well had to take some time off thanks to the rain. Sucks not having a gym or a place inside to work out. Today we had some sun so took 3 doses of epic and went out for a hell of a workout. Did chest, back and arms. Strength was way up today. I upped the resistance and was still doing high reps in the 10 range. The thing that sucks is on chest and back workouts. I'm using the maxs resistance. So I have shorting rest between sets. I'm still doing supersets. May try to change it up a little to see if I can up the intensity on the muscles I maxed on. May add a 3rd workout to each set or something. I really need to start making money so I can get back into a gym. After I get working I would like to get another bottle of epic and a couple ph19 and hit the gym. Until then I will keep doing what I can do.
    I will work for supplements!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Well had to take some time off thanks to the rain. Sucks not having a gym or a place inside to work out. Today we had some sun so took 3 doses of epic and went out for a hell of a workout. Did chest, back and arms. Strength was way up today. I upped the resistance and was still doing high reps in the 10 range. The thing that sucks is on chest and back workouts. I'm using the maxs resistance. So I have shorting rest between sets. I'm still doing supersets. May try to change it up a little to see if I can up the intensity on the muscles I maxed on. May add a 3rd workout to each set or something. I really need to start making money so I can get back into a gym. After I get working I would like to get another bottle of epic and a couple ph19 and hit the gym. Until then I will keep doing what I can do.
    Just keep working at it bro, you're doing great with what you have!!
    After a year off, I'm back

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Cary K View Post
    Just keep working at it bro, you're doing great with what you have!!
    What he said! ^^^ We like to see how it affects you and in what ways it helps. You are giving us that info! There are some loggers that just give their routine and nothing else. Not how they are feeling, what effects they are noticing, what gains/losses they are getting, none of that. I like to see the weight routines just for a progression scale but I really WANT to see the effects. I like how you are toying with the dosing and mixing things up. You just keep on doing your thing.
    "Aren't two sparrows sold for a small coin? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. Even the hairs of your head are all counted. Don't be afraid. You are worth more than many sparrows."

  22. Thanks for the feedback guys.
    I will work for supplements!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93
    Well had to take some time off thanks to the rain. Sucks not having a gym or a place inside to work out. Today we had some sun so took 3 doses of epic and went out for a hell of a workout. Did chest, back and arms. Strength was way up today. I upped the resistance and was still doing high reps in the 10 range. The thing that sucks is on chest and back workouts. I'm using the maxs resistance. So I have shorting rest between sets. I'm still doing supersets. May try to change it up a little to see if I can up the intensity on the muscles I maxed on. May add a 3rd workout to each set or something. I really need to start making money so I can get back into a gym. After I get working I would like to get another bottle of epic and a couple ph19 and hit the gym. Until then I will keep doing what I can do.
    Great job man.
    How are you liking the taste?
    Hear there's a new version of this coming out with some agmatine.

    Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd

    What he said! ^^^ We like to see how it affects you and in what ways it helps. You are giving us that info! There are some loggers that just give their routine and nothing else. Not how they are feeling, what effects they are noticing, what gains/losses they are getting, none of that. I like to see the weight routines just for a progression scale but I really WANT to see the effects. I like how you are toying with the dosing and mixing things up. You just keep on doing your thing.
    You got something against my thread?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  24. Taste is good. Always take it the insane way. Agmatine would be great in it. I'm also hoping they make a liquid version of ASGT.
    I will work for supplements!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93
    Taste is good. Always take it the insane way. Agmatine would be great in it. I'm also hoping they make a liquid version of ASGT.
    Take it the insane way?
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Take it the insane way?
    The label gives two ways of taking it. Standard dose 1-2 servings in 10 oz. of water. or Insane dose 1-2 servings. Pour 1 serving into mouth and swish, hold in mouth for 60 seconds and swallow.
    I will work for supplements!

  27. Another great workout thanks to epic. Started out with my normal Legs, shoulder and abs, but had so much energy left over I thought to myself it has been a long time since I really hit my forearm. So I added an intense forearm workout. My forearms are so pumped it is hard to type this.
    I will work for supplements!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    You got something against my thread?
    LMAO! Only the fact that it's yours! JK! JK!
    "Aren't two sparrows sold for a small coin? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. Even the hairs of your head are all counted. Don't be afraid. You are worth more than many sparrows."

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Another great workout thanks to epic. Started out with my normal Legs, shoulder and abs, but had so much energy left over I thought to myself it has been a long time since I really hit my forearm. So I added an intense forearm workout. My forearms are so pumped it is hard to type this.
    Love workouts like that!!!!
    After a year off, I'm back

  30. Another killer workout. strength still on the rise. Muscle memory? I did a chest, back, arm, and forearm workout. Great energy all the way to the end, and the pump is insane.
    I will work for supplements!
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