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    I think your joints will be fine with Formadrol. I have joint pains every now and then even when I'm not on anything but I haven't had any joins issues with Formadrol, it doesn't seem to be as strong AI as for example ATD..

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    Quote Originally Posted by g0hardorgohom View Post
    I think your joints will be fine with Formadrol. I have joint pains every now and then even when I'm not anything but I haven't had any joins issues with Formadrol, it doesn't seem to be as strong AI as for example ATD..
    Right on, good to know. Thanks gohard!
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    Leg day on my birthday:

    Squat super sets with pushups on a thera-ball and seated calf raises: 135x12 then pushups and seated calf raises, 185x10 then pushups and seated calf raises, 225x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 225x8 then push ups and seated calf raises.
    Leg extension super sets with sit ups on a thera-ball: stacked the machine for 5 sets of 8 and did sit ups in between each set.
    Hamstring curl super sets with standing calf raises and sit ups on a thera-ball: 3 sets of each. I stacked the ham machine on the last set.

    Then I sat in the steam room and sauna. I weighed in at an even 218 in my swim suit.
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    Nice workout as usual. Always love the diversity.

    Happy Birthday!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hookset View Post
    Nice workout as usual. Always love the diversity.

    Happy Birthday!!!
    Thanks Hook, it was a good birthday
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    It was chest day today and I took my last dose of Natadrol this morning so I wanted to make the workout count. I broke down and used a pre-workout with caffeine in it. I used one serving of 1.M.R. pre-workout and mixed half a scoop of SPmax in my SizeOn to drink while I worked out. Holy crap I miss caffeine. I am going to start SP250 again on Monday. Anyway, chest day:

    Flat dumbbell bench: 90's x 8, 100's x 8, 110's x 8, 120's x 8, 130's x 6, 140's x 3.
    Incline dumbbell bench: 60's x 8, 70's x 8, 80's x 8, 90's x 6, 60's to failure.
    Decline barbell bench: 135x20, 185x16, 225x10, 275x3.
    Barbell shrugs: 225x8, 315x8, 405x8.

    It was a solid workout! I feel really good about the 140's for 3. That is pretty close to my PR. My chest was totally fatigued when I got done. I weighed in at an even 219 in my swim suit. I am feeling really good about the gains made while on this stack. I think it is going to set me up nicely for a recomp and cut right before summer. Which is good, because my friends are talking me into doing the Warrior Dash in August. So I am planning to start recomping when I get done with this bulking phase so I can be ready for that.
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    I thought the same thing when I read "140'sx3"

    Niiiice!!!

    This stack is treating you right. It goes to show when your diet and exercise is dialed in the supps help put the finishing touch on it.

    Great job...
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    Thanks Hook!
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    nice work my man. I will follow this thread as i am about to jump on a stack similar (not as aggressive) to yours.

    Thanks for the constant updates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Goril View Post
    nice work my man. I will follow this thread as i am about to jump on a stack similar (not as aggressive) to yours.

    Thanks for the constant updates
    You are welcome, I am glad to know that this log has helped you out. Good luck with your stack! I hope it goes well.
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    Back day:

    Wide grip lat pulldowns to behind the head: 180x8, 190x8, 200(stacked)x8, 200x6.
    Dumbbell rows: 90x8, 100x8, 110x8, 120x8, 130x4.
    Close grip v-bar pulldowns: 160x8, 170x8, 180x8, 190x8, 200(stacked)x4 nice and slow.
    A lat isolating exorcise for 4 sets of 8.
    Standing T-Bar rows: 2 plates for 16, 3 plates for 12, 4 plates for 8, 5 plates for 6.

    The workout felt great! Strength is good and endurance is amazing. I did do the 1.M.R. pre-workout again today and a half scoop of SuperPumpMAX in my SizeOn while I worked out. I love stims!!!
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    Shoulder day:

    Dumbbell shoulder press: 50's x 8, 60's x 8, 70's x 8, 80's x 4.
    Dumbbell lateral raises: 30x8 an arm, 35x8 an arm, 40x8 an arm.
    A new multi movement exorcise I learned for 3 sets. Sitting in a slightly inclined position you start with your arms down with a dumbbell in each hand. Bring one arm up at a time in a straight curl and then into an arnold press and then lower the weight with your arm straight in a lateral raise movement. Burns the delts good!
    Rear delt exorcise(kind of like a reverse peck deck): 200x8, 210x8, 220(stacked)x8.
    Three sets of three rotator cuff exorcises super setted.
    Barbell shrugs: 225x8, 315x8, 405x8, 455x4.
    Sit ups on a thera-ball and hanging leg raises to the side.

    Another solid workout! I am really glad to have the next two days off though, I am beat! I weighed in at 217.4 in my swim suit.
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    First workout of the 8th week, arms:

    Skull crushers into tricep pushes: 95x8 then 20 pushes, 115x8 then 16 pushes, 135x8 then 10 pushes, 155(thats a plate and two tens on each side of the ez-bar)x3 then 8 pushes.
    Wide grip pushdowns on the lat pulldown machine: 90x8, 100x8, 110x8.
    Standing cable kickbacks: 3 sets of 8.
    Arms hanging over the preacher bench ez-bar curls super setted with pushups: 75x8 then pushups, 85x8 then pushups, 95x8 then pushups, 105x8 then pushups.
    One arm dumbbell curls on the preacher bench supper setted with decline sit ups: 25x8 then sit ups, 30x8 then sit ups, 35x8 then sit ups.
    Standing dumbbell hammer curls super setted with back extensions and hanging leg raises: 45's x 8 an arm then back extensions and leg raises, 50's x 8 an arm then back extensions and leg raises, 55's x 8 an arm then back extensions and leg raises, 60's x 6 an arm.
    Barbell shrugs: 235x8, 325x8, 415x8.
    Then I did a nice run and walk cardio session for just 10 min, kept the heart rate in between 130 and 160.

    The wife and I signed up for the Warrior Dash this morning. It is in late August, so I am going to have to recomp before long to be ready for it. I went back to the Anavite for a multi and SuperPump250 for my pre-workout today.
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    Leg day:

    I really focused on depth and form today. I went down so far that my butt almost hit the floor on every set.
    Squats super setted with pushups on the thera-ball and seated calf raises: 135x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 135x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 185x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 185x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 225x8 then push ups and seated calf raises, 275x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 275x6 then pushups and seated calf raises.
    Leg extensions super setted with sit ups on a thera-ball: 230x8 then sit ups, 240x8 then sit ups, 250(stacked)x8 then sit ups.
    Hamstring curls super setted with standing calf raises and sit ups on a thera-ball: 230x8 then standing calf raises and sit ups, 245x8 then standing calf raises and sit ups, 260(stacked)x8 then standing calf raises and sit ups.
    Then I did a short run walk cardio.

    Workout felt great! I weighed in at 218.4 in my swim suit, so I am maintaining about 10 lbs gained. Not bad LG Science! And sorry I posted this on the LG page, I use a lot more products than just LG. I hope all the reps don't mind. This was my first thread as a newbe.
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    Chest day:

    Flat dumbbell bench: 90's x 8, 100's x 8, 110's x 8, 120's x 6, 130's x 4, 140's x 3.
    Incline dumbbell bench: 60's x 8, 70's x 8, 80's x 8, 90's x 8.
    Decline barbell bench super setted with one arm cable flys: 135x20 then flys, 185x16 then flys, 225x10 drop set to 135x10 then flys.
    Barbell shrugs: 225x8, 315x8, 405x8.

    It was a pretty good workout, but it didn't feel as solid as last week. weighed in at an even 218.
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    Back day:

    Wide grip lat pulldowns: 180x8, 190x8, 200(stacked)x8.
    Dumbbell rows: 100x8 an arm, 110x8 an arm, 120x8 an arm.
    Close grip V-Bar pulldowns: 170x8, 180x8, 190x8.
    A lat isolating exorcise for 3 sets of 8.
    Standing T-Bar rows: 2 plates for 16, 3 plates for 12, 4 plates for 8.

    No extra sets on back this week. I have only had about 4-5 hours of sleep each night for the last few nights. I weighed in at 219.2 in my swim suit. I wanted to hit 220 before recomp, but I am pretty darn close and ready to start recomp next week at the beginning of PCT. I am starting to look over my diet and figuring out what I will need to drop my carbs and cals by one fourth each week for the next two weeks starting on Monday. I may also switch up my routine to a 40/20 split.
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    Alright, so it is the end of the 8th week and the "cycle" so to speak. I start PCT the day after I run out of Pink Magic. That will be next Tuesday. I weighed in at 221.2 today, so I hit the weight I wanted before recomp and gained 13.2 lbs in 8 weeks. I am going to start my recomp carb and cal drop on Monday. And lose some of the fat I put on in the last 8 weeks. My goal is to be a lean 230 lbs someday.

    I worked out shoulders today:

    Seated dumbbell shoulder press: 50's x 8, 60's x 8, 70's x 8, 80's x 4.
    Standing dumbbell lateral raises: 30's x 8 an arm, 35's x 8 an arm, 40's x 8 an arm.
    3 sets of a multi movement exorcise.
    A rear delt exorcise(kind of like a reverse peck deck): 200x8, 210x8, 220(stacked)x8.
    3 rotator cuff exorcises super setted for 3 sets.
    Barbell shrugs: 225x8, 315x8, 405x8.

    I will attach some pictures of me taken today and then add a couple more in 4 weeks at the end of PCT and 4 weeks into recomp.
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    Looks like solid gains.

    Let's see how the PCT treats you. Keep eating and lifting heavy and all should be well.
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    nice work bro, gains look huge! How much have you put on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    nice work bro, gains look huge! How much have you put on?
    Thanks man! I put on about 13 lbs in 8 weeks. I am pleased and a little surprised. I am going to cut some of it, but it got me that much closer to my 230 lb goal.
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    Great gains mate! I just asked this question in another thread .. but i have read your stack and it shows that you stacked Natadrol and Pink Magic together ...
    Do you feel this was a successful combination? I have 2 weeks worth of Pink Magic, was going to take it while running the Formadrol .. but will start to run it now if it works well with Natadrol. And will add Prime in with the Formadrol as you have done.

    Thanks for any info or advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kansui View Post
    Great gains mate! I just asked this question in another thread .. but i have read your stack and it shows that you stacked Natadrol and Pink Magic together ...
    Do you feel this was a successful combination? I have 2 weeks worth of Pink Magic, was going to take it while running the Formadrol .. but will start to run it now if it works well with Natadrol. And will add Prime in with the Formadrol as you have done.

    Thanks for any info or advice.
    Some of what I have read says not to stack Natadrol with test boosters because of competing androgen receptor issues. You can combat that with taking L-Carnitine. It will help increase androgen receptor density in the muscles. If you only have two weeks worth of the Pink Magic, I would save it to stack during PCT with the Prime and Formadrol. I love Prime, but it takes a while for it to kick in, so stacking it with Pink Magic would give it a kick start in the beginning of PCT. Prime with the Formadrol is a great PCT for Natadrol. It should help you maintain most of your gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyEleazar View Post
    Some of what I have read says not to stack Natadrol with test boosters because of competing androgen receptor issues. You can combat that with taking L-Carnitine. It will help increase androgen receptor density in the muscles. If you only have two weeks worth of the Pink Magic, I would save it to stack during PCT with the Prime and Formadrol. I love Prime, but it takes a while for it to kick in, so stacking it with Pink Magic would give it a kick start in the beginning of PCT. Prime with the Formadrol is a great PCT for Natadrol. It should help you maintain most of your gains.
    Thanks for the reply. I also read information stating not to stack test boosters with Natadrol ... i thought it would be best to use the pink magic with the formadrol and will do that... if i can afford it i will add the PRIME in as well, i responded really well to prime ... spiked my strength quite dramatically, so sure to be a winner combo stack for me.
    I have acytl L-Carnitine in my supp stash -- will that increase androgen receptor density same as L-Carnitine?

    I read your Supp stash you outlined in your thread ... Awesome stash! Good to have things on hand to try. Unfortunately i dont have access to a lot of those supps due to being in Australia .. would love to try the Trifecta stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kansui View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I also read information stating not to stack test boosters with Natadrol ... i thought it would be best to use the pink magic with the formadrol and will do that... if i can afford it i will add the PRIME in as well, i responded really well to prime ... spiked my strength quite dramatically, so sure to be a winner combo stack for me.
    I have acytl L-Carnitine in my supp stash -- will that increase androgen receptor density same as L-Carnitine?

    I read your Supp stash you outlined in your thread ... Awesome stash! Good to have things on hand to try. Unfortunately i dont have access to a lot of those supps due to being in Australia .. would love to try the Trifecta stack.
    The body converts L-Carnitine to acetyl L-Carnitine and vice versa so I would guess that they would have the same benefits, but I am not sure. Acetyl L-Carnitine seems to be used more for cognitive support. But give it a go, Docmattic stated in his Natadrol thread that he felt the best on the days when he supplemented with Acetyl L-Carnitine.
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    The beginning of the 9th week, arm day:

    Skull crushers into tricep pushes: 95x8 then 20 pushes, 115x8 then 16 pushes, 135x8 then 12 pushes, 155x2 then 10 pushes.
    Wide grip pushdowns on the lat pulldown machine: 95x8, 105x8, 115x8.
    Cable kickbacks for 3 sets of 8.
    Arm hanging over the preacher bench ez-bar curls super setted with pushups: 75x10 then pushups, 85x8 then pushups, 95x8 then push ups, 105x6 drop set to 75x8 then pushups.
    One arm dumbbell curls on the preacher bench super setted with decline crunches and hanging leg lifts: 25x8 an arm then crunches and leg lifts, 30x8 an arm then crunches and leg lifts, 35x8 an arm then crunches and leg lifts, 40x6 an arm then crunches and leg lifts.
    Standing dumbbell hammer curls super setted with back extensions: 45x8 an arm then back extensions, 50x8 an arm then back extensions, 55x8 an arm then back extensions.
    Barbell shrugs: 225x8, 315x8, 405x8 then drop set to 135x12.

    Then I did 15 min of interval cardio. I kept my heart rate between 130-160.

    I dropped my carb intake and overall cal intake by about 1/4 of what I have been doing. Keeping protein the same. I weighed in at an even 219 today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kansui View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I also read information stating not to stack test boosters with Natadrol ... i thought it would be best to use the pink magic with the formadrol and will do that... if i can afford it i will add the PRIME in as well, i responded really well to prime ... spiked my strength quite dramatically, so sure to be a winner combo stack for me.
    I have acytl L-Carnitine in my supp stash -- will that increase androgen receptor density same as L-Carnitine?

    I read your Supp stash you outlined in your thread ... Awesome stash! Good to have things on hand to try. Unfortunately i dont have access to a lot of those supps due to being in Australia .. would love to try the Trifecta stack.
    I have been to Cairns! I went on a SCUBA trip with Big Cat Green Island tours. And I bungy jumped at the AJ Hackett tower there. I have some friends who moved to Australia from Colorado. Been to the Sydney Oprah house and swam at Bondi beach too. Beautiful place, but the income tax is super high. And you can't get a lot of supplements through customs.
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    I started PCT today. I took my last dose of Pink Magic with dinner last night. So I am doing Prime 6 a day, Formadrol 4 a day and T-911 2-3 a day.

    Leg day:

    Squats super setted with pushups on a thera-ball and seated calf raises: 135x12 then pushups and seated calf raises, 185x10 then pushups and seated calf raises, 225x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 275x8 then pushups and seated calf raises, 315x4 then pushups and seated calf raises, 315x4 then pushups and seated calf raises.
    Leg extensions super setted with sit ups on a thera-ball: 230x8 then sit ups, 240x8 then sit ups, 250(stacked)x8 then sit ups.
    Hamstring curls super setted with standing calf raises and sit ups on a thera-ball: 255x8 then standing calf raises and sit ups, 270x8 then standing calf raises and sit ups, 285(stacked)x8 then standing calf raises and sit ups.
    Then I did 15 min of interval cardio. I was dripping sweat. I weighed in at 218.2 in my swim suit.
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    Chest day:

    Flat dumbbell bench: 90's x 8, 100's x 8, 110's x 8, 120's x 8, 130's x 6, 140's x 5.
    Incline dumbbell bench: 60's x 8, 70's x 8, 80's x 8, 90's x 6.
    Decline barbell bench super setted with cable flys: 135x20 then flys, 185x15 then flys, 225x7 drop set 135x8 then flys.
    Dumbbell shrugs super setted with decline oblique crunches: 100's x 8 then crunches, 110's x 8 then crunches, 120's x 8 then crunches.
    Then I did 15 min of interval cardio. SWEAT!!!

    Great workout! Total fatigue. I pushed every lift to failure. I weighed in at 218.4

    NEW PR on flat dumbbell bench by 1 rep!! New PR 140's for 5!!
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    looking good!!! just checking in. Trying to recover from a shoulder injury, thinking about jumping on a trifecta after i get some solid recovery time, any suggestions? tips? tricks? about the stack... anything is greatly appreciated.
    Keep wrecking those weights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy1109 View Post
    looking good!!! just checking in. Trying to recover from a shoulder injury, thinking about jumping on a trifecta after i get some solid recovery time, any suggestions? tips? tricks? about the stack... anything is greatly appreciated.
    Keep wrecking those weights!
    Good to see you back on here. Sorry about the injury man. That sucks! Here is my take. Most of the gains made while on the Trifecta are due to training and eating well. It may give you a bit of an edge, but it still comes down to the basics. Get that shoulder well rehabbed, look at your diet and exorcise plan and go from there. I am actually enjoying the PCT more than the stack itself...

    LG has some new stuff coming out that has my interest peaked though.
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    Back day:

    Wide grip lat pulldowns to behind the head: 180x8, 190x8, 200(stacked)x8, 200x6.
    Dumbbell rows: 100x8 an arm, 110x8 an arm, 120x8 an arm, 130x4 an arm.
    Close grip v-bar pull downs: 170x8, 180x8, 190x8, 200(stacked)x4.
    A lat isolating exorcise for 3 sets of 8.
    Standing T-Bar rows: 2 plates for 16, 3 plates for 12, 4 plates for 8.
    Then I did 15 min of interval cardio and sat in the steam room. I weighed in at 218.8 in my swim suit. I am feeling pretty good on the PCT. More aggression and the libido is up more than it has been since I started 9 weeks ago.
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    Shoulders:

    Seated dumbbell shoulder press: 50's x 8, 60's x 8, 70's x 8, 80's x 5.
    Lateral raises: 30's x 8 an arm, 35's x 8 an arm, 40's x 8 an arm.
    2 different multi joint movement exorcises for 3 sets each.
    A rear delt machine(like a reverse peck deck): 200x8, 210x8, 220(stacked)x8.
    3 rotator cuff exorcises super setted for 3 sets.
    Dumbbell shrugs super setted with decline crunches and hanging leg raises: 100's x 10 then crunches and leg raises, 110's x 8 then crunches and leg raises, 120's x 8 then crunches and leg raises.

    I didn't have time for cardio today. I weighed in at an even 218 in my swim suit.
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    Beginning week 10, arms:

    Skull crushers into tricep pushes: 95x12 then 20 pushes, 115x8 then 16 pushes, 135x8 then 12 pushes, 155x3 then 8 pushes.
    Wide grip pushdowns on the lat pulldown machine: 95x8, 105x8, 115x8, 120x4.
    Cable kickbacks for 3 sets of 8.
    Arm hanging over the preacher bench ez-bar curls super setted with pushups: 75x12 then pushups, 85x10 then pushups, 95x8 then pushups, 105x4 drop set to 75x4 then pushups.
    One arm dumbbell curls on the preacher bench supper setted with decline oblique sit ups: 25x8 an arm then sit ups, 30x8 an arm then sit ups, 35x8 an arm then sit ups, 40x4 an arm then sit ups.
    Standing dumbbell hammer curls super setted with back extensions: 45's x 8 an arm then back extensions, 50's x 8 an arm then back extensions, 55's x 8 an arm then back extensions.
    Barbell shrugs: 225x8, 315x8, 405x8.
    Then I did 15 min of interval cardio and sat in the steam room. I weighed in at 218.2 in my swim suit, so I am holding steady even with the cardio introduction and carb and cal drop a week ago.
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    Definitely respectable workouts as usual...

    Good job holding the gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hookset View Post
    Definitely respectable workouts as usual...

    Good job holding the gains
    Thanks man! I am hitting it hard and sweating like crazy during my workouts. Thanks for your input through this crazy stack as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyEleazar View Post
    Good to see you back on here. Sorry about the injury man. That sucks! Here is my take. Most of the gains made while on the Trifecta are due to training and eating well. It may give you a bit of an edge, but it still comes down to the basics. Get that shoulder well rehabbed, look at your diet and exorcise plan and go from there. I am actually enjoying the PCT more than the stack itself...

    LG has some new stuff coming out that has my interest peaked though.
    You know youre not the first to confess their love for formadrol. Your advice is greatly appreciated and extremely wise. Youre the man. I was actually considering running a tbol cycle with ahd as the pct but Idk once again the shoulder is upset with me hahah. Thanks again bro. I'm still following. Hit some weights for me too guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy1109 View Post
    You know youre not the first to confess their love for formadrol. Your advice is greatly appreciated and extremely wise. Youre the man. I was actually considering running a tbol cycle with ahd as the pct but Idk once again the shoulder is upset with me hahah. Thanks again bro. I'm still following. Hit some weights for me too guy.
    Sorry to hear your shoulder is acting up again. You gotta get that thing under control lol. I hope you are able to get back in the gym before long. Good luck man, I will keep hitting the weights for us both in the meantime...
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    Leg day:

    Squats super setted with pushups on a thera-ball and standing calf raises: 135x12 then pushups and calf raises, 185x10 then pushups and calf raises, 225x8 then pushups and calf raises, 275x8 then pushups and calf raises, 315x4 then pushups and calf raises, 315x8 then pushups and calf raises.
    Leg extensions super setted with sit ups on a thera-ball: 230x8 then sit ups, 240x8 then sit ups, 250(stacked)x8 then sit ups.
    Hamstring curls super setted with seated calf raises and sit ups on a thera-ball: 255x8 then calf raises and sit ups, 270x8 then calf raises and sit ups, 285(stacked)x8 then calf raises and sit ups.

    I didn't feel like running after that so I just sat in the steam room. I weighed in at an even 219 in my swim suit.
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    Your gains, at least weight wise, seem to be staying solid for you.
    Are you noticing any other body recomp or noticable changes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hookset View Post
    Your gains, at least weight wise, seem to be staying solid for you.
    Are you noticing any other body recomp or noticable changes?
    Not really. I felt leaner last week with the initial carb and cal taper, but I am feeling a bit bloated again this week so I may need to drop a few more carbs. I am trying a taper down for the first time, I used to just drop my carbs by 1/2 right off the bat and I would lose strength. It worked and I could lose weight fast, but I am trying to maintain strength and more of the weight and just cut fat. It takes longer, but should work better for long term results.
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