I have a herniated L5 😠😠

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  1. I have a herniated L5 😠😠


    sup y'all as the title says havent trained in 2 months due to lower back pain had an mri done yesterday come to find out i have a herniated disc my L5 to be exact waiting to reschedule with my dr to talk options cortisone injection or surgery does anyone on here have any advise or experience with this I'm starting physical therapy Monday
    I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength


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  3. I broke my back and herniated L3,4,5. Physical Therapy will help a ton. Never did surgery or injections on them.
    I mean if you really hate your balls, go for it. But, what did they do to you?

  4. I have the same issue. Foam rolling, back buddy, inversion table and topical cbd are lifesavers. I also purchased a pad for my seat when driving and it has helped tons. About once a month I will sleep on my floor on my back and that does wonders.
    IG: Skraw85

  5. I have bulged L2/L3, physical therapy NSAIDS, foam roller, CBD will help.

    I don't have nerve stenosis, so I don't want to go under the knife. I think knife option is last resort when it comes to the spine.

    Also sleeping on hard surface mixed with a good firm memory foam bed will make a difference. Easy to stretch in memory foam too.
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  6. Anyone try inversion table?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    Anyone try inversion table?
    I bought one for the wife a few years ago. I've used it a few times. But, she loves it for sure
    I mean if you really hate your balls, go for it. But, what did they do to you?

  8. DO NOT elect for surgery unless you ABSOLUTELY have to!!! Any surgery of the spine does not fix you... it only alleviates SOME symptoms. Your spine will be compromised for the test of your life. Accupuncture, PT, yoga, massage and other holistic methods need to be exhausted first before you let someone cut you open.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by SkRaw85 View Post
    I have the same issue. Foam rolling, back buddy, inversion table and topical cbd are lifesavers. I also purchased a pad for my seat when driving and it has helped tons. About once a month I will sleep on my floor on my back and that does wonders.
    What topical CBD product do you use?

  10. thanks for the info brotha appreciate it
    I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength

  11. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    I have bulged L2/L3, physical therapy NSAIDS, foam roller, CBD will help.

    I don't have nerve stenosis, so I don't want to go under the knife. I think knife option is last resort when it comes to the spine.

    Also sleeping on hard surface mixed with a good firm memory foam bed will make a difference. Easy to stretch in memory foam too.
    I've tried cbd oil, gummies and rub nothing helped the only thing that helps is pain killers but in on blood pressure pills now from them ����
    I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jackedviking View Post
    DO NOT elect for surgery unless you ABSOLUTELY have to!!! Any surgery of the spine does not fix you... it only alleviates SOME symptoms. Your spine will be compromised for the test of your life. Accupuncture, PT, yoga, massage and other holistic methods need to be exhausted first before you let someone cut you open.
    I do not want surgery at all im praying pt helps
    I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength

  13. Quote Originally Posted by thorsdad31 View Post
    I've tried cbd oil, gummies and rub nothing helped the only thing that helps is pain killers but in on blood pressure pills now from them
    Kratom for me...and itll lower bp some too....I don't feel groggy or think about taking something first in morning, well unless I sleep wrong, ouch

  14. I have herniated t3, l5, l6

    In my experience when I dont train it makes it worse. Having a soft core is one of the worst things for my back. Of course first you have to get healthy enough to train with it. Train around the injury until you figure out what you can and can't do.Deadlifts are out of the question for me. Every time I'm out of commission 2-5 days. Ive had days where my back locks up and muscle spasms are unbearable.

    Kratom rather than opiods imo because theyre only a partial mu opiod agonist. They are no where near as risky as synthesized opiates.

    Also believe it or not diet plays a huge role in how my body responds to the hernias. Good diet less pain and less episodes. If I eat fried food I can bet money that within 24 hrs I will begin to feel discomfort that will last 1-2 days. I really watch eating fried stuff. Sounds crazy I know but its true.


    Also sitting too long or in an uncomfortable chair will aggrevate the **** out of it.
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  15. If your back locks up ask not only for traditional muscle relaxers but possibly benzodiazepines. Aka anti anxiety meds as these are muscle relaxers. Its why people withdrawing from many substances are prescribed Ativan.

    Besides all the good advice Ive seen here you could also do isometric squats and other exercises to build up other muscles which may take over some of the work from the damaged lumbar spine.

    If oral nsaids arent doing the trick, you could ask about Voltaren gel(Diclofenic).

    I would try to avoid any type of disc fusion, discectomy etc. You lose mobility and put pressure on the discs above and below the fusion. You could end up much worse off.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    What topical CBD product do you use?
    If you need THC free, cbd asylum. If your state is legal, Mary’s medicinals Muscle Freeze is my go to. I add in arnica to it as well.
    IG: Skraw85

  17. Quote Originally Posted by 81dcs View Post
    Kratom for me...and itll lower bp some too....I don't feel groggy or think about taking something first in morning, well unless I sleep wrong, ouch
    I'll have to look into that
    I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength
  18. I have a herniated L5 😠😠


    Suggest you start reading Dr. Stuart McGills work.

    I have and l2-l3 disc bulge, l4-5 disc bulge against nerve root and stenosis.

    Core work, desensitizing to pain avenues (avoid exercises that aggravate the discs- for now). Goal to is stop micro movements in the spine.

    Disc herniations/bulges CAN re absorb https://www.painscience.com/biblio/a...-herniate.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3025225/

    They’re a plethora of research (didn’t want to sift through all of pub med) that shows you will benefit from other methods other than opting for surgery.

    I rehabbed for a year and am now in process of competing in another PL meet come November (last one was two years ago before my injuries ). So, there’s hope.

    What I did (worked for me, may not for you) consistently every day to every other day was;

    Curl ups
    Bird dogs
    Dead bugs
    Side planks
    Ab wheel (look these up to do them correctly, you should have NO extension in the lumbar)
    Static bear crawls
    Bear crawls
    Kb carry (front rack position)

    These were progressions, not done all at once.

    If I can help at all, you can DM me.

    In short:
    1) desensitize to pain avenues
    2) reduce ALL micro movements in the spine (learn proper bracing)
    3) build a strong core on ALL planes
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  19. Definitely agree with Godstrength about the soft core making things worse and tyga tyga above.

    And pain killers like more advanced NSAIDs like CoX-2 inhibitors are good to try if CBD and ibuprofen don't cut it.

    Also, stick to traditional benzos if you go that route... as someone with a ton of experience who still made a major mistake like 6 weeks ago and had a blackout seizure and woke up after an ER ride to Kaiser hospital... anyway RC benzos like clonazolam can be amazing but dangerous if you have a bad source and accidentally go into withdrawal... Worst 4th of July.

    Anyway, Mobic or cox-2 inhibitors help with ibuprofen or napoxren sodium as well

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    I have herniated t3, l5, l6

    In my experience when I dont train it makes it worse. Having a soft core is one of the worst things for my back. Of course first you have to get healthy enough to train with it. Train around the injury until you figure out what you can and can't do.Deadlifts are out of the question for me. Every time I'm out of commission 2-5 days. Ive had days where my back locks up and muscle spasms are unbearable.

    Kratom rather than opiods imo because theyre only a partial mu opiod agonist. They are no where near as risky as synthesized opiates.

    Also believe it or not diet plays a huge role in how my body responds to the hernias. Good diet less pain and less episodes. If I eat fried food I can bet money that within 24 hrs I will begin to feel discomfort that will last 1-2 days. I really watch eating fried stuff. Sounds crazy I know but its true.


    Also sitting too long or in an uncomfortable chair will aggrevate the **** out of it.
    Something in the fried food is probably causing systemic inflammation. Time to leave the KFC to someone else. Prescription Voltaren gel will help or icy hot. Personally, I find the menthol is the way to go topically.

  21. Mobic aka meloxicam and Celecoxib are the two cox-2 inhibitors to speak to your physician about.

    Its been an age since I studied it but, there are three types of "slipped disc" Its important to find out exactly what the MRI says. Yes, discs can move back into place. Im always lax to mention this because I dislike the idea of giving a patient false hope.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Suggest you start reading Dr. Stuart McGills work.

    I have and l2-l3 disc bulge, l4-5 disc bulge against nerve root and stenosis.

    Core work, desensitizing to pain avenues (avoid exercises that aggravate the discs- for now). Goal to is stop micro movements in the spine.

    Disc herniations/bulges CAN re absorb https://www.painscience.com/biblio/a...-herniate.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3025225/

    They’re a plethora of research (didn’t want to sift through all of pub med) that shows you will benefit from other methods other than opting for surgery.

    I rehabbed for a year and am now in process of competing in another PL meet come November (last one was two years ago before my injuries ). So, there’s hope.

    What I did (worked for me, may not for you) consistently every day to every other day was;

    Curl ups
    Bird dogs
    Dead bugs
    Side planks
    Ab wheel (look these up to do them correctly, you should have NO extension in the lumbar)
    Static bear crawls
    Bear crawls
    Kb carry (front rack position)

    These were progressions, not done all at once.

    If I can help at all, you can DM me.

    In short:
    1) desensitize to pain avenues
    2) reduce ALL micro movements in the spine (learn proper bracing)
    3) build a strong core on ALL planes
    Wish I’d known you back in 2003 before I got a discectomy and laminectomy.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Suggest you start reading Dr. Stuart McGills work.

    I have and l2-l3 disc bulge, l4-5 disc bulge against nerve root and stenosis.

    Core work, desensitizing to pain avenues (avoid exercises that aggravate the discs- for now). Goal to is stop micro movements in the spine.

    Disc herniations/bulges CAN re absorb https://www.painscience.com/biblio/a...-herniate.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3025225/

    They’re a plethora of research (didn’t want to sift through all of pub med) that shows you will benefit from other methods other than opting for surgery.

    I rehabbed for a year and am now in process of competing in another PL meet come November (last one was two years ago before my injuries ). So, there’s hope.

    What I did (worked for me, may not for you) consistently every day to every other day was;

    Curl ups
    Bird dogs
    Dead bugs
    Side planks
    Ab wheel (look these up to do them correctly, you should have NO extension in the lumbar)
    Static bear crawls
    Bear crawls
    Kb carry (front rack position)

    These were progressions, not done all at once.

    If I can help at all, you can DM me.

    In short:
    1) desensitize to pain avenues
    2) reduce ALL micro movements in the spine (learn proper bracing)
    3) build a strong core on ALL planes
    thanks for all the help I appreciate it!!
    I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength

  24. Anyone needs me, message me. Im not a doctor, I just play one on T.V.

  25. Been there and done that, unfortunately.
    Highly recommend the inversion table. Makes a big difference in short time. Start gradually, use it (couple of minutes) a few times a day. Muscle relaxants like diazepam help short term but need to get off those and painkillers as soon as possible.
    AVOID SURGERY (butchery)
    Stand up more, walk around.
    You'll be back to DL's in no time!
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