Thanks. Appreciate it.
Thanks. Appreciate it.
Im using P-GH as part of my PCT protocol, but I wouldnt even consider going off with out a good SERM like nolva, and an prefferably an AI like rebound XT (or maybe letro or anastrozole) on top of that. I happened to have a vial of HCG lying around waiting to be reconstituted so I decided to use that as well as nolva and rebound XT. I also chose to overlap insulin (either humalog or humilin-R depending on how soon I want to have to eat again on any given day.) for the last 2 weeks of my cycle and the first week of pct. I also decided to give prostaglandin F2alpha another chance (for as long as I can stand using it that is.) And I still had a bit of cash left, so it was between my ussual LR3 IGF-1 adjunct to PCT, and the slightly cheaper P-GH. So this time I opted with the P-GH cuz I've been curious about it for a while and cuz u get a full 6 month supply for only 150 bucks. It would have been nice to have the option of adding the Lr3 and some regular GH, but Ive been completely broke for the last 8 days. (despite the fact that alot of this stuff I allready had sitting around from a while back waiting to be used. But the PGh comes in lyophized powder form so, it you buy it when you have money and save it for next cycles PCT and have plenty of time to save up for your nolva and whatever else. But honestly Im taking so much crap that it would be hard to evaluate the effects of just one of the compounds Im taking. Especially since I've only been taking PGH and PGF2a for about a week. (about to start my 3rd and final week of slin.)Originally Posted by workin2005
Your taking so much crap, and I bet you would get the same results on just one of those and a good diet.Originally Posted by UnicronSpawn
Why do you presume my diet isnt good? And since when are you an authority on my body and how it responds to endocrine manipulation? You dont know what has worked and hasnt worked for me in the past, or what I did or didnt do to discover it. Im not blindly following advice of some random "guru". My decisions are based on a combination of what Ive learned about the endocrine system, and how hormones and cell-messengers work on the cellular level through countless hours of enthusiastic reading, and through experimentation and personal experience.Originally Posted by BOHICA
Save your bets and worry about how YOUR body responds. When I need advice I will ask for it. Ive studied the crap out of every pharmaceutical compound I use long before I even considered implementing any of them. And they do not serve to replace proper diet and training. In fact I needed to be even MORE knowledgeable of nutritional manipulation to properly use some of theese compounds then when I trained natural, because some of them (especially slin) change many of the rules of thumb of bodybuilding diet. I understand thouroughly the pros and cons of slin, PGF2a, HCG and SERMS and have made a decision as the mature adult that I am about whats right FOR ME. And I take and have taken responsibility for those decisions.
One of those compounds? are you serious? Wich one? HCG will mimic endengeneous LH and condition the leydig cells to respond to it but it wont cause the pituitary to make LH and FSH. The nolva will, (by blocking estrogen at the hypothalamus) but it takes a while and muscle loss is common during that waiting period when androgen levels are insufficient and cortisol and estrogen are normal or higher. (Hence the usefullness of HCG). The SERMS also dont address androgen induced suppression at the hypothalamus, wich is what ALRI's ultra hot(ter) and similar (ATD) compounds have been purported to address. The low dosed AI is insurance that the HCG induced test is not largely aromatized. That way I can take a lower dose of nolva without worrying about gyno (wich im predisposed to) and also can keep the much needed test the HCG induces as test. (Ive got enough estrogen for glucose utilization and IGF promotion as well as androgen receptor upregulation, thanks.) The slin wont do much with out sufficient stimulation of AR's. But coupled with PGF2a creates a superior synergy then either alone. The PGF2a not only upregulates AR,s (both in number and in sensitivity), but also prevents fat gain from the slin similar to the much more dangerous but highly effective uncoupler DNP. (wich I dont use). The PGF causes actuall adipocyte destruction not just shrinking the fat cells like dieting and cardio alone do. This is much better with slin then T3 or sympathamimetics (adrenal agonists) because those compounds all reduce insulin sensitivity. And as for the P-GH...... anything that increases GH is a good idea for me PCT or not, because unlike a lot of users, I actually have tested clinically low in endegeneous GH. And in case you didnt know, high GH work synergystically with both insulin and with raised androgen levels/sensitivity. (For reasons I havent the time to explain to you right now because I got errands to run before its to late.)
But thanks anyway kid.
Can I get an AMEN out there!?!?
Well said bro.
I had no idea this stuff was already out, looking to pick some up ASAP!
thanx, didnt mean fly off the handle like that, I just get defensive about those sort of things sometimes. (it was the full moon damn it!)lol!Originally Posted by animalistic
No your just defending yourself because you felt attacked and your sensitive, awww. Your just taking what he said to personally, because maybe he didnt care to think about what your taking because you ARE on a ton of ****, and he didnt even care to think for ten minutes on how all the **** plays out. But obviously you care enough to defend yourself over a little comment to write a ****ing novel. Thanks for your imput, I'm sure you showed his ass right? rock on broOriginally Posted by UnicronSpawn
I'm a marine serving in Iraq, so I can't pin anything right now. Is there any feedback on the effectiveness of the transidermal version of P-GH? The product sounds great and I wanna give it a try, but I'm not sure if I should just save my money and wait another 5months till I get back so I can just pin the ****.